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My problem with Toyota has been their arrogant advertising, and this image they've built up about never breaking down. Than and for the last decade or so their cars have been getting increasingly dull and increasingly ugly for the most part. That and the slipping quality ad the cover ups. That doesn't make everything they've ever made junk.

Agreed.

Toyotas fail to appeal to me on an emotional level, which is why, while I can respect some of the more impressive or simply performance-minded products they've built (MR2, Celica, Supra, LF-A, FT-86, etc.), I could never own one. The slipping quality (and corporate attitude) is also a big factor as well. Why I would spend a good sum of money on a product that is clearly of inferior quality when I know there are more competent automakers who are just as willing to sell me a car?

EDIT: Both the Celica and Hilux were terrible rust-buckets.

As were the S-10 and Camaro of the '80s.

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As were the S-10 and Camaro of the '80s.

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And just about anything else from the 80's.

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There is a very good reason Land Cruisers are the vehicles of choice for the Taliban.

Taliban terrorists read and subscribe to consumer reports......

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:word:

And just about anything else from the 80's.

I see quite a few clean H-Bodies from the 1980s (esp Olds and Buick) but everything else seems to be a massive rust bucket.

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You people are just biased. Foreign cars for years have always had a better relibility then american. Yes I like Buicks and they are good cars. But fact is fact and american cars are not built to the same quality as a forgien brand.

Whoopsie... looks like Consumer Reports disagrees with you.

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I thought Satty had made an appropriate return. My hopes were dashed.

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