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Drew Dowdell

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The talk in the 2019 Mercedes-Benz G-Class thread got me thinking about SUVs for me.

I want something big and comfortable with lots of torque.  Prefer CPO to have a warranty and not deal with severe depreciation.

Should have a 6,000lb minimum tow rating (Not that I tow, but that rating requires a tongue weight rating of 600lbs which is needed for a Mototote)

I like cushy rides.

Thoughts are:

Jeep Grand Cherokee with air suspension

Escalade/Yukon/Tahoe SWB

XC90 doesn't have a high enough rating, but I do like it.

What else am I forgetting?

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9 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I wonder how cushie the new Navi will be. I haven't driven a Sequioa in eons.... 

Durango is probably at minimum cush level. I get them regularly as rentals and they're on my radar because Hemi..... But I like the GC better

Our friends have QX56 (now QX80), it is very nice for what it is.  I think drives smaller then most similar vehicles in the segment, and pretty comfotable. 

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The New Armada meets the criteria, I drove it back in October at a press event.  The thing I don't like about it is the infotainment system is utter rubbish for a 2017 vehicle.   I know that wasn't on my list of criteria, but it's a big enough issue to make me not like the car. 

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Cushy ride and a decent tow rating are probably a difficult combination to find. 

I would think the new Expedition/Navigator would be in there as well though. But they definitely won't be CPO for a bit yet. Not sure when you're thinking of pulling the trigger but I'd think you'd need at least a year to get some supply and choices on the used market. 

GLS also has a 7500lb tow rating with any engine. 

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I'm not sure when I want to pull the trigger either.   We're in another weird spot in life where 2018 could bring some big changes. I don't think my choice in my next vehicle will change, but the "when" could change.

That said, the Honda is dead again.... it has GOT to go!

20 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Cushy ride and a decent tow rating are probably a difficult combination to find. 

Actually, usually a high tow rating means adding things like air suspension.... that least it is that way on the Grand Cherokee and Durango.  The GC turns into a total puff ride with the air suspension.

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Does the Honda have a lot of miles now?   I can't recall, you probably posted before.   I hadn't started 2017 expecting to replace my old Jeep, it was still going ok at 170k albeit with a lot of interior electrical gremlins.  In between buying the house in Ohio and moving, I realized there was no way I could trust it on a 2000 mile drive..and the transmission started slipping continuously, so I decided in March it was time to replace.. 

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4 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Does the Honda have a lot of miles now?   I can't recall, you probably posted before.   I hadn't started 2017 expecting to replace my old Jeep, it was still going ok at 170k albeit with a lot of interior electrical gremlins.  In between buying the house in Ohio and moving, I realized there was no way I could trust it on a 2000 mile drive..and the transmission started slipping continuously, so I decided in March it was time to replace.. 

It's a 127k... and if it wasn't so damn expensive ($900) to replace the starter on it, it would be making its 3rd flatbed trip this year.  But I can't see sinking $900 into a car that I might only get $4500 from in full working order.   So I'm ordering the parts, I've had help pushing it into the garage, and I'll start to dig this weekend.

It's a 4-cylinder with the starter under the f-ing intake manifold like it's a Northstar or something.  $200 part, $700 labor.

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1 minute ago, ccap41 said:

I don't know the kind of miles you put on your vehicles or what your driving style is but they offer it in a diesel option too. 

Yeah, the diesel option came to mind.  A quick local search showed a bunch of PHEVs available in the area too which also intrigues me.   My driving is strange, I don't do a lot of driving around town, but then I'll go on long distance trips driving to DC for family or NYC for work.  I'll also often do PIT-DC-NYC-PIT.  So on a month I don't travel, I could put less than 500 miles on the car, but a month that I do travel could be 2,000+.

  I would like to drive to Florida more often to visit my parents and take a motorcycle with me, hence the need for the tongue weight rating. 

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3 hours ago, ykX said:

Our friends have QX56 (now QX80), it is very nice for what it is.  I think drives smaller then most similar vehicles in the segment, and pretty comfotable. 

One thing about all the Full Size SUV, Body on Frame is how easy they are to drive. My wife loves driving our Escalade and Suburban as to her they drive as easy as a mid size car and have tight turning radius. She loves how easy they are to park even though they are as big as the pickup trucks at 22ft long. They at least do not have the terrible turning radius of the trucks.

2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I'm not sure when I want to pull the trigger either.   We're in another weird spot in life where 2018 could bring some big changes. I don't think my choice in my next vehicle will change, but the "when" could change.

That said, the Honda is dead again.... it has GOT to go!

Actually, usually a high tow rating means adding things like air suspension.... that least it is that way on the Grand Cherokee and Durango.  The GC turns into a total puff ride with the air suspension.

That is what I love about my Escalade, the self leveling suspension makes it the ultimate road trip auto. My wife and I have done so many 18hr drives as you just eat up the miles with no discomfort in sitting.

2 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

It's a 127k... and if it wasn't so damn expensive ($900) to replace the starter on it, it would be making its 3rd flatbed trip this year.  But I can't see sinking $900 into a car that I might only get $4500 from in full working order.   So I'm ordering the parts, I've had help pushing it into the garage, and I'll start to dig this weekend.

It's a 4-cylinder with the starter under the f-ing intake manifold like it's a Northstar or something.  $200 part, $700 labor.

I will never understand the stupid engineer that puts parts in hard to service spots. To me it was an afterthought and cheap ass short cut to put it there, not to mention the heat probably did not help it's life.

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4 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

The New Armada meets the criteria, I drove it back in October at a press event.  The thing I don't like about it is the infotainment system is utter rubbish for a 2017 vehicle.   I know that wasn't on my list of criteria, but it's a big enough issue to make me not like the car. 

A lot of details on that vehicle fall short IMHO.

My vote is for GC....hands down.

Interestingly, after looking at the Olds 98 thread...would be cool if Hybrid/electrical technology allowed car makers to build a true full size car again and meet CAFE and buyer expectations.  I could handle an all electrical full size coupe, convertible or wagon with full battery electric powertrain.

if that was only in production...or an all electric Toranado...Front wheel drive of course...

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1 minute ago, Drew Dowdell said:

That's a win for me.... cheaper to buy a CPO.

The beetle was 16K for a car that stickered at 32K with 18,000 miles on it....gotta love CPO

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5 hours ago, daves87rs said:

I'm with him...I'd go with a GC as well.....the newer ones are growing on me, and anyone I know with a 2012+ loves theirs.

Funny how I read this and thinking of starting my own SUV thread again....it might be time to put the Cobalt out to pasture at the rate it's going.....

Go for it, the GC right now is one of the best SUVs if not the best for the class. You can get such a great deal. My son loves his and got the rare Rhino color for his GC as it stands out and just looks great. You can see how sharp it looks as I added it to our family album of cars we own or have owned.

 

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I would think an X5 would ride like a brick and be terribly expensive to fix if it were to break.  To me this is a no-brainer, I'd pick Tahoe, Yukon, or Expedition.  All three of them are on the top 10 longest lasting vehicles list.

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Those are the easy favorites. I was looking for additional options that I hadn't thought of. I don't much care for the previous Expedition interior, but I do like the new one. Won't find it as a CPO yet though, too new. 

The X5 can come with air suspension, so I would seek out one equipped that way.

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18 hours ago, ocnblu said:

I would think an X5 would ride like a brick and be terribly expensive to fix if it were to break.  To me this is a no-brainer, I'd pick Tahoe, Yukon, or Expedition.  All three of them are on the top 10 longest lasting vehicles list.

As much as it might pain me to agree with the good gentleman from Lancaster, methinks he might well be on to something.

17 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Those are the easy favorites. I was looking for additional options that I hadn't thought of. I don't much care for the previous Expedition interior, but I do like the new one. Won't find it as a CPO yet though, too new. 

The X5 can come with air suspension, so I would seek out one equipped that way.

 

17 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Those are the easy favorites. I was looking for additional options that I hadn't thought of. I don't much care for the previous Expedition interior, but I do like the new one. Won't find it as a CPO yet though, too new. 

The X5 can come with air suspension, so I would seek out one equipped that way.

I would still pick Jeep Grand....put a hemi in it and be done...

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