Ram News: Rumorpile: Toledo Plant To Be Home To New Ram Midsize Truck

[Robert Hall]

18 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Would the 3.6 be due to be replaced by 2022? What was its last major update? 

Who knows?  I think it got the auto stop/start around 15-16. 

[smk4565]

I bet $100 to a donut there is a Hellcat version.  

[Robert Hall]

I wonder if they will do a Hellcat version of the new Ram. 

[David]

Come on as long as they can sell it, cheap R&D to put the Hellcat package in everything. I honestly am surprised they have not done a hellcat Pacifica.  

[ocnblu]

Right.  Makes so much sense.  The Hellcat engine would fit SO WELL... sideways... under a van hood...

[Robert Hall]

25 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

Right.  Makes so much sense.  The Hellcat engine would fit SO WELL... sideways... under a van hood... 

Yes, FWD minivan w/ Hellcat..great idea.  Not. ...though a mild performance trim wouldn't be too crazy, remember the turbo Caravans in the 80s..

[Drew Dowdell]

16 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Would the 3.6 be due to be replaced by 2022? What was its last major update? 

Just a few years ago. It has some life left in it yet. 

[ccap41]

56 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Just a few years ago. It has some life left in it yet. 

Four plus the life of a brand new vehicle or do you think it would get something else/new? 

2 hours ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Yes, FWD minivan w/ Hellcat..great idea.  Not. ...though a mild performance trim wouldn't be too crazy, remember the turbo Caravans in the 80s..

Do they already have an engine for that though? 

[Robert Hall]

4 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

 

Do they already have an engine for that though? 

Not sure..I'm not up on the Pacifica powertrains...3.6 Pentastar regular and hybrid version? 

[David]

8 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Not sure..I'm not up on the Pacifica powertrains...3.6 Pentastar regular and hybrid version? 

I would think using the Turbo 4 banger from say the Wrangler so 300HP with Electric assist hybrid powertrain would give it a nice Pacifica RT package.

[David]

@ocnblu @ccap41 @Cubical-aka-Moltar

Seems it was a real concept project to build a Hellcat Pacifica.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/chrysler/2017-chrysler-pacifica-hellcat-ar172693.html 

 

 

[ccap41]

That was in 2016 supposedly for a 2017 Hellcat Pacifica and that didn't happen.. 

[Drew Dowdell]

2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

Four plus the life of a brand new vehicle or do you think it would get something else/new? 

Do they already have an engine for that though? 

Do you think the Grand Cherokee or Durango or Wrangler have a risk of going out of production in that amount of time?  I could see a Turbo-4 being added to the first two, but not a removal of the V6 in the next three model years.  Hell, they're still running the Hemi V8 there. 

Also remember the Pentastar is available in a 3.2 version in the Cherokee. This I could see dying and going to 2.0T only... or just getting upgraded to the 3.6 the Pacifica has.

Ram still uses the Pentastar as a base engine.

Also... will the Journey ever die?  It's another one with the 3.6. 

The long and short of it is that the Pentastar is still a pretty efficient V6 today.  I also think Wrangler buyers and Dakota buyers will be particularly resistant to a Turbo-4 as the only option. 

 

2 hours ago, dfelt said:

@ocnblu @ccap41 @Cubical-aka-Moltar

Seems it was a real concept project to build a Hellcat Pacifica.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/chrysler/2017-chrysler-pacifica-hellcat-ar172693.html

 

Keep in mind there is talk of the Pentastar getting a twin-turbo version to replace the Hemi in some applications.  

[Drew Dowdell]

Whoops!  @ccap41 This might be your answer.

 

 

 

[ccap41]

22 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Whoops!  @ccap41 This might be your answer.

 

 

 

Hahaha I was just reading that too!