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5 hours ago, ccap41 said:

There are solid state batteries ready for the market? Who's using them first? What're they going in?

As I have published earlier in the alternative fuel channel, Toshiba goes into production with their solid state batteries this spring, Mitsubishi and Nissan are the first auto companies that are going to use them in their EVs. 

Two battery pack options, 198 mile pack that charges fully in 6 min and 396 mile pack that charges in 12 min. Toshiba is leading the charge here and then there is Samsung who as @Drew Dowdell suggested has stated they will have solid state batteries out later this year but no product mentioned. I suspect in the Note 10, Samsung has also been totally quiet about the battery that is in the Samsung Fold but many think it is a solid state battery.

Benefits of solid state batteries is half the size of traditional Lithium Ion batteries with 4 times more charge. So making phones liter makes sense, but for a phone like the note, I can also see much longer charge times.

Since the time I have posted my original story about the Scib batteries, toshiba has both hybrid lithium ion and solid state going into production this year.

This was the update I posted about the drop of cobalt from them last year.

Since then Samsung has made announcements, Dyson, and many others. 2019 / 2020 seems to be the year we start seeing Solid state batteries just as EVs start being rolled out.

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3 hours ago, ccap41 said:

What kind of improvement in phone batteries will that bring? Could it take my one charge per day(overnight) to one charge per two days? That would be pretty amazing. 

Since I got my XR, I have only used my phone so much throughout a single day that I felt the need to charge it before bed once. It will easily last 24hrs before getting under 20%. I stretched it to 28hrs once to see about how long it'll go on a charge and I think that was around 5% battery remaining. 

I'm going to assume they will improve battery life if they can do it cheaply enough with the new solid state stuff. I went from max 3.5hrs screen time over two days to around 6hrs comfortably (I don't game on phone) over two days when I upgraded to my current phone and I expect now with 2019 flagship phones going to 7nm SoC's battery life has improved even more.

 

 

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3 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

I want you pay special close attention to the first paragraph describing the Bolt on CHEVY’s own page. Nowhere does it say CUV but it sure does mention the word “car” a lot. And no one is crying but you because you’re the only one here who gets their underwear in a knot over any positive attention directed at EVs. We get it. You hate them so maybe staying out of the conversation and not trolling at every EV turn would be better here. 

 

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19 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

 

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Site your source there. Here’s mine. 

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/bolt-ev-electric-car

 

oh and if you are still not convinced here, please come to Sands Chevrolet in Glendale, AZ (where I used to work) and tell them it’s CUV. That’ll be a good laugh. It can’t even be considered a CUV when it is FWD only. That makes it a tall wagon. 

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You cannot read the screenshot?  Am I in the twilight zone?  Soooo surreal.  IT READS:   2019 ONLINE ORDER/REFERENCE GUIDE.

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4 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

You cannot read the screenshot?  Am I in the twilight zone?  Soooo surreal.  IT READS:   2019 ONLINE ORDER/REFERENCE GUIDE.

Again, provide a link. It’s that simple. 

 

Edit:Nevermind. I found it. One reference guide, even one from GM does not change the fact that the Bolts own page (Chevrolet.com) is under only “electric vehicles” and not “SUVs” and going here makes no mention of what it is other than “car”. Call it that all you want but no one in their right minds here would call that a CUV

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2 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

I really ain't got time for this crap.  HERE is your damn link, foo

https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/NASApp/domestic/vehiclesel.jsp?year=2019&regionID=1&divisionID=1

Settle down there junior. You clearly had time for it or you wouldn’t be here. Here’s some more evidence. Now you will the first two images saying everything but CUV. The third is for the Trax CUV, from Chevys own page. The first paragraph states that it is an “SUV”, much how the Bolts own page states that is a “car”.

 

Understand the difference yet?

 

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15 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

oh and if you are still not convinced here, please come to Sands Chevrolet in Glendale, AZ (where I used to work) and tell them it’s CUV. That’ll be a good laugh. It can’t even be considered a CUV when it is FWD only. That makes it a tall wagon.

LOL salesmen know NOTHING about the product... what a simple comment.

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Now, I’m done with this @ocnblu because it has gotten sidetracked here. Go on believing that you aren’t doing anything else here other than trolling and crying about EVs but this is about the CT5 and I think it needs to get back to that. 

1 minute ago, ocnblu said:

LOL salesmen know NOTHING about the product... what a simple comment.

That’s all you got? 

 

Point proven. 

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From Wikipedia:  The EPA classifies the Bolt as "small station wagon", with less than 130 cu ft of interior volume.[1][36] GM refers to the Bolt as a crossover.[37]

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3 minutes ago, ocnblu said:

From Wikipedia:  The EPA classifies the Bolt as "small station wagon", with less than 130 cu ft of interior volume.[1][36] GM refers to the Bolt as a crossover.[37]

Quoting wiki now? Yeah, that’s reliable. Talk about a simple statement lol. Your desperation is starting to show. 

 

Now about that CT5, the one GM says is a “3 series and C Class competitor” despite the near ten inches more in length (see where this is going yet ocnblu?), will this really mean that there will not be a smaller model underneath it, i.e. a CT4? There still seems to be some confusion about that. 

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On 4/23/2019 at 9:27 AM, dfelt said:

Then pour the rest of the money into the CUV / SUV lineup and focus on EVs.

This person is the (literally) biggest troll on this site.  And he is left unchecked by the powers that be.  This is the first mention of EVs in this thread... and I could list untold numbers of other threads where EV's are brought up inappropriately by him.  And do not get me started on his myriad political posts that go completely unchecked in inappropriate places.

Just now, surreal1272 said:

Quoting wiki now? Yeah, that’s reliable

You don't have to believe wiki... but there is a link shown where you can go to GM material and see for yourself.

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2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

 

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So that is a dealer access order guide then only? I have never seen anything like this before, guess for rating of EPA, they list it CUV, but public knows better as a hatchback? 🤷‍♂️

I have to say that Cadillac has nailed the LOVELY Burgundy Wine Color on the CT5. This really makes it attractive.

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14 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

. It can’t even be considered a CUV when it is FWD only.

That has nothing to do with it being a car vs CUV. 

I think there being this kind of debate over it being a car or a CUV is EXACTLY what the rest of us have been saying. It's styling is of a hybrid car/cuv. It's ugly for that reason, imo. It doesn't look car enough to be a car and it doesn't look CUV enough to be a CUV. It's just an ugly middle ground. 

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13 hours ago, dfelt said:

I have to say that Cadillac has nailed the LOVELY Burgundy Wine Color on the CT5. This really makes it attractive.

That color is amazing. I've been into dark "colors" a lot lately. Dark reds/blues/greens are towards the top of my lists right now. 

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49 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

That has nothing to do with it being a car vs CUV. 

I think there being this kind of debate over it being a car or a CUV is EXACTLY what the rest of us have been saying. It's styling is of a hybrid car/cuv. It's ugly for that reason, imo. It doesn't look car enough to be a car and it doesn't look CUV enough to be a CUV. It's just an ugly middle ground. 

The Bolt is a one-box monospace.  Tall hatchback.  Car?  CUV?  Transport pod?   It's something...

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I think it is the side shot of the CT5 that bothers me the most. It looks like it doesn't have enough trunk.

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4 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I think it is the side shot of the CT5 that bothers me the most. It looks like it doesn't have enough trunk.

YES. It has that coupe-like look to it but the proportions are just slightly off on the rear.

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43 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I think it is the side shot of the CT5 that bothers me the most. It looks like it doesn't have enough trunk.

Exactly why I feel the coupe things is so over done. 4 door sedans need a proper trunk look and not the jellybean with no trunk look.

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16 hours ago, ocnblu said:

This person is the (literally) biggest troll on this site.  And he is left unchecked by the powers that be.  This is the first mention of EVs in this thread... and I could list untold numbers of other threads where EV's are brought up inappropriately by him.  And do not get me started on his myriad political posts that go completely unchecked in inappropriate places.

You don't have to believe wiki... but there is a link shown where you can go to GM material and see for yourself.

I don’t think you understand the definition of the word “troll”. Also, I don’t give a damn what the order guide says. Most customers don’t go there and don’t even know about them unless they deal with fleet sales. When you go to Chevrolet.com to build one (or just research it), you will find not ONE mention of it as being a CUV. No salesman has ever sold the Bolt as a CUV and no one has ever confused as a CUV especially with just one glance at the window sticker on the lot that says “wagon”. You are trying to use a weak argument of semantics because you have nothing else. Fact is that if the Bolt tech had gone into an Equinox (for example), sales would have been higher. Everyone else but you sees that. Maybe it’s just denial or your simple hate of everything EV but it doesn’t change those facts. 

 

And you have the nerve to call anyone else here a “troll”. LMAO! 

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

That has nothing to do with it being a car vs CUV. 

I think there being this kind of debate over it being a car or a CUV is EXACTLY what the rest of us have been saying. It's styling is of a hybrid car/cuv. It's ugly for that reason, imo. It doesn't look car enough to be a car and it doesn't look CUV enough to be a CUV. It's just an ugly middle ground. 

Not disagreeing with your assessment. It’s more about how it was being marketed and sold. One mention in a order guide that most people don’t use doesn’t change the fact that it was never marketed as a CUV. GM flubbed the marketing completely, whether it be because of the design (which is a valid complaint for most folks), the price, or any other number of reasons. None of this changes what I have brought up to the resident anti-EV troll. 

 

When looking for a crossover or SUV on Chevrolet.com, here are your options. Funny how there is no Bolt on there. 

 

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15 hours ago, dfelt said:

So that is a dealer access order guide then only? I have never seen anything like this before, guess for rating of EPA, they list it CUV, but public knows better as a hatchback? 🤷‍♂️

I have to say that Cadillac has nailed the LOVELY Burgundy Wine Color on the CT5. This really makes it attractive.

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The EPAs own website (and a side by side comparison with the EV SUV Tesla Model X). Notice the size classifications

 

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1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

I think it is the side shot of the CT5 that bothers me the most. It looks like it doesn't have enough trunk.

Based on the specs, it might have the smallest trunk out of any new sedan in the NA market.  To get smaller you might have to get a Camaro or convertible.

 

 

 

 

 

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17 hours ago, ocnblu said:

This person is the (literally) biggest troll on this site.  And he is left unchecked by the powers that be.  This is the first mention of EVs in this thread... and I could list untold numbers of other threads where EV's are brought up inappropriately by him.  And do not get me started on his myriad political posts that go completely unchecked in inappropriate places.

Psychological projection is a defence mechanism in which the human ego defends itself against unconscious impulses or qualities (both positive and negative) by denying their existence in themselves while attributing them to others.

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      The interior design of the G80 responds to the changing times where dominance of technology and information is no longer considered a luxury experience. Based on the "Beauty of White Space” concept inspired by traditional Korean architecture, priority is placed on the careful balance of personal space with state-of-the-art technology. This allowed the design team to optimize the layout of needed controls with calming, luxurious surfaces.
      Visibility was enhanced by minimizing A-pillar thickness and rearview mirror dimensions, utilizing flag type side mirrors and reducing dashboard height. The resulting ‘panoramic view’ gives the driver a relaxed view of the road ahead and the sense of openness when seated.
      Dividing the steering wheel into lower and upper halves, Genesis distinguishes the upper (panoramic area) and lower part (control area) to optimize intuitive use of the vehicle as well as the view ahead.
      The steering wheel and sleek, thin air vents run across the passenger compartment splitting it into the panoramic area above and the control area below. The number of hard buttons and switches was intentionally kept to a minimum, both for aesthetic purposes and ease of use.
      In the panoramic area, a heads-up display, a 12.3-inch instrument cluster and a 14.5-inch infotainment system display necessary information while driving.
      The control area is equipped with an intuitive suite of interfaces: a Genesis integrated controller for HVAC controls, a rotary-operated electronic shift dial and touch-and-write infotainment system.
      G80’s leading interior space has been further developed. Both headroom and legroom were increased by lowering the seating height of the second row, allowing for both more interior room and a more dramatic roofline. Completing the space, the G80 features leather seating and steering wheel surfaces, soft-touch fabrics and coatings as well as open pore wood trim finishes.
      Dynamic Luxury Begins with a Solid Foundation, Powertrain Innovations
      The G80's platform represents a brand-exclusive, third-generation, rear-wheel drive platform with a design that lowers the body and the center of gravity to secure a wider cabin and improved driving stability.
      “The all-new G80 brings all the existing strengths from the previous generations all the while upgrading the powertrain, platform and communication system with the state-of the art technologies,” said Albert Biermann, President, Head of Research & Development Division at Hyundai Motor Group. “It is a true, authentic Genesis.”
      The use of lighter weight materials was a distinct focus. Aluminum is used for about 19 percent of the body, reducing the weight by 110 kg (243 lbs) compared to the previous one, thus increasing fuel efficiency and performance.
      Engineered for world markets and customer needs, the G80 features three powertrains:
      2.5-liter turbocharged Inline-4: 304 PS (300 HP @ 5,800 rpm) and 43.0 kgf·m torque (311 lb.-ft. from 1,650 – 4,000 rpm) 3.5-liter turbocharged V6: 380 PS (375 HP @ 5,800 rpm) and 54.0 kgf·m torque (391 lb.-ft. from 1,300 – 4,500 rpm) Diesel 2.2-liter Inline-4: 210 PS, 45.0 kgf·m torque. (Not available in the U.S. market) The G80 features improved door sealing, new engine compartment sound insulation and resonant sound-reducing wheels to ensure indoor quietness and class-leading, low levels of noise (NVH). In addition, the Electronically Controlled Suspension with Road Preview, enhances ride quality by reducing road impacts using information supplied through the front camera.
      Advanced Safety
      In keeping with the brand’s safety platform, G80 applies standard active and passive safety systems, as part of a brand-level engineering commitment to passenger security. State-of-the-art, advanced driver-assistance systems (ADAS) include:
      Highway Driving Assist II (HDA II): This system helps assist the driver in a wider variety of situations than before, including during lane change maneuvers when the turn signal is used, and when others merge in front of you. Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning (SCC-ML): A world first, SCC-ML, as applied to the all-new Genesis GV80 SUV earlier this year, incorporates artificial intelligence (AI) within the Advanced Driver Assistance System (ADAS) feature that helps the car to independently learn the driving characteristics of - and assist - its driver. Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist (FCA): This system may help automatically bring the G80 to a stop in certain situations where there is a risk of collision with an approaching vehicle detected on the left or right side of the intersection. G80 may also help detect potential collision risks in certain situations where a pedestrian is sensed in close proximity to the vehicle while in motion, for example. Blind-Spot Collision Avoidance Assist (BCA): BCA is essentially a Blind Spot Monitor with active capabilities. BCA helps reduce the chance of potential impact with a moving vehicle and may alert the driver if a vehicle is detected in the driver’s blind-spot A complement of 10 air bags includes front and side airbags as well as a center airbag, between the front seat occupants, that helps prevent secondary contact between occupants in a side impact.
      In addition, the Genesis safety platform works to integrate communications between 40+ controllers in real time to help ensure the safest response in various scenarios.
      Next-Generation, Technology-Enabled Luxury
      The G80 offers a high level of convenience to drivers with a suite of new technology. Each new feature is focused on further and seamlessly integrating the G80 with its client’s lifestyle, devices and preferences. A selection of highlighted features include:
      The Remote Smart Parking Assistant (RSPA) provides remote drive/reverse functions that facilitate parking in narrow spaces, as well as perpendicular parking and parallel parking. This can be controlled within the car or outside, remotely via the key fob. The 12.3-inch 3D instrument cluster recognizes the driver's eyes and provides various driving information and can be converted to 2D depending on the driver's preference. The Genesis Integrated Controller allows users to set destinations or enter phone numbers by simply writing on the main control center instead of complicated keyboard input. A 14.5-inch touchscreen infotainment system links with the Genesis Integrated Controller to support Genesis Quick Guide and Valet mode. Valet mode is a function that enhances security so that users' personal information does not appear on infotainment screens when using a Valet parking service. Over-the-air, wireless updates to the navigation system. Phone connectivity including Android Auto and Apple Car Play. With an eye toward the senses, luxury-focused items include:
      The driver's seat is equipped with an ergo motion seat function featuring seven air cells which enables optimum seating for each driving mode and reduces fatigue via a stretching mode and automatic posture correction functions. Ambient mood lamps applied throughout the interior add a sense of calm to the passenger space in various colors. From a sound standpoint, Genesis has enhanced the engine's sound with its Active Sound Design (ASD), standard on all G80s equipped with gasoline engines, adding an additional level of customization. The Lexicon sound system allows passengers to enjoy the vivid sound effects of a concert, such as "Quantum Logic Surround Audience Mode/Stage Mode," adding to the joy of listening. The first row HVAC system allows the driver to adjust the heated/ventilated seats in the second row and the air conditioning mode/temperature independently of the first row, increasing the convenience for second row passengers. Marketplace
      The all-new G80 enters the marketplace on March 30th in South Korea and in the second half of the year in other markets, starting with North America.
    • By William Maley
      Cadillac's Super Cruise system is getting a major upgrade just in time for the 2021 CT4 and CT5. The system will now be able to automatically change lanes whenever the driver taps or fully engages the turn signal stalk. The vehicle will signal and look for a safe gap before making the maneuver. Information as to which step the system is on is shown to driver in the instrument cluster.
      “This is our most extensive update we’ve made to Super Cruise since its debut. We have made a number of improvements to make Super Cruise more intuitive, better performing and more accessible for our customers. In addition to the automated lane change functionality, we’ve made improvements to the user interface and hands-free driving dynamics,”  said Mario Maiorana, Super Cruise chief engineer in a statement.
      This upgrade is due in part to GM's new digital vehicle platform that allows for more "electrical bandwidth and data processing power." Other improvements include better rear-facing sensors and updated software.
      Following the CT4 and CT5, the updated Super Cruise system will appear on the upcoming 2021 Escalade. That brings us to an interesting item caught by the folks at Roadshow. The picture Cadillac used in the press release has the rear end of the next-generation model expected to debut next month.

      Source: Cadillac, Roadshow
      Press Release is on Page 2

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    • By William Maley
      Cadillac's Super Cruise system is getting a major upgrade just in time for the 2021 CT4 and CT5. The system will now be able to automatically change lanes whenever the driver taps or fully engages the turn signal stalk. The vehicle will signal and look for a safe gap before making the maneuver. Information as to which step the system is on is shown to driver in the instrument cluster.
      “This is our most extensive update we’ve made to Super Cruise since its debut. We have made a number of improvements to make Super Cruise more intuitive, better performing and more accessible for our customers. In addition to the automated lane change functionality, we’ve made improvements to the user interface and hands-free driving dynamics,”  said Mario Maiorana, Super Cruise chief engineer in a statement.
      This upgrade is due in part to GM's new digital vehicle platform that allows for more "electrical bandwidth and data processing power." Other improvements include better rear-facing sensors and updated software.
      Following the CT4 and CT5, the updated Super Cruise system will appear on the upcoming 2021 Escalade. That brings us to an interesting item caught by the folks at Roadshow. The picture Cadillac used in the press release has the rear end of the next-generation model expected to debut next month.

      Source: Cadillac, Roadshow
      Press Release is on Page 2
    • By Drew Dowdell
      At an event is Seoul, South Korea yesterday, Genesis finally unveiled their new GV80 luxury SUV.  The overall look of the GV80 has been leaking out on the internet for months, but we finally get the full official release now.
      The interior and exterior of the GV80 is designed with a common thread to give a familial look with the G70, G80, and G90.  The GV80 introduces a new quad headlamp design that will eventually filter out to the other vehicles in the Genesis lineup. The crest grille first seen on the G90 is here too. The interior of the GV80 focuses on the "beauty of white space". The designed accentuated the width and space of the of the interior with wide horizontal lines and thin air vents.  In the center is a 14.5-inch split screen infotainment display. Genesis intentionally limited the number of hard buttons and switches for aesthetic reasons. The GV80 comes in either 5-seat or 7-seat models. On up-level models, soft materials cover every surface from the inside of door handles to quilted knee pads that line the lower sides of the console.  The transmission selector is a dial in the center console. The integrated controller can be operated by an onscreen keyboard or by handwritten letters. 
      Trips in the GV80 are designed to be stress-free. It gets equipped with a Road Active Noise Cancellation technology to reduce road noise. The system is one of the advanced and fast responding systems in the world. The electronically controlled suspension with road preview helps maintain a smooth ride by recognizing road imperfections ahead via a front camera.
      The GV80 is based on a unique new rear-wheel drive platform, while all-wheel drive is available.  In South Korea is till be equipped with a 3.0-liter six-cylinder diesel engine while the U.S. will get a choice between two unspecified turbocharged engines. All-wheel drive models in the U.S. will be equipped with an electronic rear limited slip differential.
      There is a host of safety and driving assistance technologies in the GV80 including Smart Cruise Control with Machine Learning, Highway Driving Assist II, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist, Blind-Spot collision Avoidance Assist, Rear cross-traffic collision avoidance, and driver attention alert warning. In the event of a collision, there are 10 airbags, including a center mounted airbag between the front occupants. 
      The 2021 Genesis GV80 will go on sale in North America later this year.
       

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