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Genesis has 3 sedans, no CUV's... They really failed to read where the market was going.

I'm just a grumpy old fart now. I can't even help it.

Fully 36 states are net recipients, only 14 put more in than take out, and they're pretty much spread across the nation. CA barely squeaks in under the break-even point- there's a lot of welfare programs getting tapped in CA. The Golden State gives the Gov't about $1.02 for every dollar they receive. The other 13: Mass, WY, OK, NJ, UT, CO, NY, Kan, OH, Neb, ILL, Minn & DE.

Notice anything anachronistic?

The Worldwide Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure (WLTP) has been giving automakers in Europe various headaches. As we reported last week, Volkswagen has pushed back the U.S. launch of the Arteon to help boost inventory in Europe due to a delay in WLTP testing. Other automakers aren't so lucky. According to Automotive News Europe, a number German automakers including BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Porsche have halted sales of some plug-in hybrids due to WLTP. In the new procedure, the way that PHEVs are tested reduces the effect of the fully-charged battery. "The vehicles are tested with a full battery, then the test is repeated until the battery is empty, when they are tested again," according to ANE. Germany's VDA on their website goes on to say that "the CO2 value is then calculated as the ratio of the electrical range to the total range." This in turn has pushed the "crucial CO2 emissions figure above 50 grams per kilometer". Why is it so crucial? Many European countries off tax benefits on vehicles that produce less than 50g/km of CO2. Matthias Schmidt, an analyst for Sweden's AID automotive research company tells ANE that in Germany, many PHEVs have lost their 3,000-euro (about $3,500) incentive. To qualify again, automakers will need to fit larger batteries to their vehicles to qualify for the incentives. Automakers now find themselves in a tough place deciding whether to bite the bullet and add the larger battery or pull PHEVs off the market for the time being. Here is the status of the various German automakers: BMW: Says its current lineup will meet WLTP, but ANE notes that certain models exceed the 50g/km of CO2 - example is the 225xe Active Tourer that produces 57 g/km. The 330e, the brand's second best-selling PHEV will not go back on sale until the next-generation model arrives next summer. Mercedes-Benz: Has no PHEVs on sale at the moment, but a spokesman said that the E-Class and S-Class PHEVs will go on sale within the next two months. Porsche: Has pulled sales of the Cayenne and Panamera PHEVs. "We will not start taking orders again until the cars are being built, the timing of which has not yet been confirmed," said a spokesman. Volkswagen: Stopped sales of the Golf and Passat GTE, both models appear in the top ten best selling PHEVs in Europe. A spokesman said both models would return next year with the introduction of updated models. Source: Automotive News Europe (Subscription Required) View full article

Have a great birthday @William Maley and @ccap41

^ What; 14 years of Tesla a half billion + /year in the red didn't count?

Oh he's Mexican?

Edsel sold 44,891 units in model year '59. For MY 60, given pre-introduction production, let's give Edsel 2 months of production (the new models were intro'd 10/15, discontinuation was announced 11/19). They sold 2,486 cars, which would extrapolate out to about 14K for a full year. 44,891 to 14,xxx is a 70% decline. Historically & business case-wise, it's hard to imagine a 2020 Genesis dealership being open. I say that, under the glaring inconsistency that is 14-year old money-burning Tesla.

Your average F150 buyer is not going to switch to Toyota. I am really liking the new RAM.

Happy belated. Better late than never.

AMG is ultimate hot hatch, the ultimate sedan, ultimate convertible, ultimate coupe,ultimate SUV, etc. Yes they make 50 models in every body style, but all have performance. I like that AMG makes every body style and has cars like the E43 soon to be E53, because some people want the performance handling and braking, but don't need 600 hp. This is also why there is a Corvette Gran Sport and Z51 to get the best handling, but maybe you don't need a 700 hp engine. As to the A35 I am indifferent, it could be an A300 with an AMG appearance package, much like you can get an E450 or S560 what is the upgraded engine over the base on those classes. They were going to make this car either way, and the GLA, CLA, GLB will get this same engine. I don't really care if they call them CLA 300 or 350 or AMG 35.

I don't know if "autonomous driving vehicles" and "exciting" are the right combination of words as an enthusiast.

You will fit right in here.

They've abslutely diluted the brand the same way BMW has diluted the M brand with "M Sport" with how they've lowered the brand to C43, E43, etc. Oh and Audi with their "S-Sport" package. All fluff and little content outside of aesthetics.

WOW, Sucking it for all it's worth old man!

I am indeed worthless....but wish you happiness all the more.

The market is also really saturated with fantastic product at the moment. Not product that excites me as an enthusiast....but fantastic product.

THREE DAYS LATE YOU WORTHLESS F......

Happy birthday to both of you fine gentleman, a day late and a dollar short.

The Hudson River runs no where near Pontiac Michigan, but this Hudson & Pontiac are uncomfortably close.

Even sarcasm fails me at this point...and that is saying something. Which makes me think it is the economy slowing down. GM does not lack for products. Ford is a long strange love hate relationship with me. I will be more rational and rant less. Good to know, they are quite the innovative car company. And we are surprised...why?

Overall Mazda is doing ok: https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/global-sales-mazda-posts-third-straight-record-year/ "Global sales: Mazda posts third-straight record year. Mazda Motor Corporation established a new best mark for global vehicle turnover during the 2017-18 fiscal year that ended on 31 March. With 1,631,000 units sold, up 5% or 72,000 from the previous year, the Japanese carmaker set its third-consecutive record while also recording its fifth year of uninterrupted growth"

perhaps, but they have a turbo cx-5 coming, and the skyactiv-x engine around the corner. rumor has it the 3 and the cx-3 will get the 2.0 x. it will be interesting what the market will do with these products...when they hit lots.

LOL

We are reading the last chapter of Genesis already, and they only just begun.

Yep. They still make the A8, too.

Considering the amortized costs of the XT5 being a platform mate to the Acadia, the Enclave, and the Traverse (LWB) I would say that your cost for the XT5 might be actually be spot on or even slightly high.

GM got beat up on the sales front across the board. Not many sales increases anywhere either. Horse, how many Fords have betrayed you over the years for yo to feel that way?

Hey ccap, I heard you say you've got no teef... hey uh, can ya help a brotha out?

I started a liquid diet too... for medicinal ppuporpposess... .

I truly think we have hit a peak and a cooling period is beginning for the North American Market. I also think many buyers are holding off till the OEMs have their EVs on the lots to kick the tires and consider if they want to go that way or not.

That is added into the various Toyota models that have taken the place of the Scion.. So iA is folded into Yaris iA, iM into Corolla Hatchback, and FR-S into 86.

Time to put you in the retirement home.

Thanks guys! This was the big 3-0 for me...

He will win reelection. California is simply showing themselves to be what they are. Will be interesting to see how a long-needed parent eventually defuses the petulant child that is... California.

Happy birthday for 14 more mins dudes

Hope your both having a great Day!

You might not be tall enough to reach them! ?