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The PowerWagon is a true off-road adventure vehicle. I've been in the passenger seat while the RAM rep was driving it full force taking leaps off hills with all 4 wheels off the ground. The power wagon has a remote detachable anti-roll bar, giant shocks, giant ground clearance, and a hugely strong steel frame that is used in the same trucks capable of towing 35 thousand pounds. No, the Rivian is not in the same class. It's barely in the F-150's same class. I look at it as a Honda Ridgeline EV.

There still won't be a road legal version of the Rivian on the road in 12 months.. is my prediction.

Until these EV startup companies have something to sell and they pass safety requirements they're completely insignificant to me. All fluff no substance yet.

So I was very right in my comment on the Cadillac Instagram thread that this looks like a rebadge of the Chevrolet Blazer. This is clearly a stop gap measure as the real focus is on the Electric versions of CUVs.

OK then! Try this young sexy lass on for size ?????

[gonna jump in here before ocnblu nabs this] ~ You only eat once a year???

VIP throne seat..

Different market niche, pointless to compare.

Having some connection issues here. The photo gallery will be up soon. Edit: I got 12 photos up. I'll get more later when I have better when I have better wifi.

Nobody uses crappy Android phones anyway..

What @dfelt said. I assume DOHC has emissions advantages as everybody has moved to them awhile ago. This is why I'm surprised they didn't use some other engine or have a second optional engine with more torque for the larger vehicle that this is.

XEV5. (just a guess...X for crossover, etc).

Yes we need names. Alphanumeric designations are unnecessary on this one.

Spec wise.. Yes. The Aviator definitely has a better drivetrain line-up.. I mean who can argue with 400hp/400lbs torque or 450hp/600lbs torque? The crazy thing that still boggles my mind is that Cadillac has access to the LF3 from the XTS-VSport, which would beat the Lincoln's first engine.. and the Black Wing, in either tune, to beat the hybrid driveline.

You were saying @smk4565??

My birth year is entered incorrectly, but the mathematical calculation is correct (2017 = 2 yrs old). Imma gonna change it to....... 39 years old. Yeah; 39. EDIT :: Whee! - the internet says I'm 39. must be true!

Mine tells me I am more like 13...so eleven years ahead of you.

My wife has told me, at times, I'm like a 2 yr old, and we don't want to argue with HER, so; yeah- 2.

I suppose. I wanted Cadillac to aim higher like the Aviator. The Aviator is going to play in Land Rover's territory. This will be lucky to compete with MDX.

I wish I were 6'6" at times like this, I could say I cannot fit in it and that would be that. Debuts at the bottom of the class. Who does that?

Closer to a 4 hour trip...but that 3 hour statement was to make a...point....in a jokingly fashion. But there was a point being made... Point being, when traveling, 4-5-6-7 hours by car. Its exactly THAT...4-5-6-7 hours on the road. If you are in a hurry. Travel by airplane. If you dont want the hassles of stopping to pee, or charging up...travel by train... If you take the bloody time to travel by car...4-5-6-7 hours, you invest 4-5-6--7 hours of your life on the road....45 minutes to pee and/or to charge up/fuel up is a NON-ISSUE! You could make up all kinds of deterrents in your head, in reality, there are none! THAT is the point. Where do you need to go and that quickly for 250 miles that a 45 minute piss stop or charge up would be an issue for you? You are already on the road for 4-5-6-7 hours...obviously an extra 45 minutes to piss, or to charge up aint a big deal... You could make into a big deal deterrent, I suppose. But it really aint!

Happy birthday. I just saw this. Don't answer, but this has me wondering who wears the pants in the household ... in most households, actually. It's always an interesting dynamic.

This looks really good in person, much better than the Palisade.

Or in 24.

Makes the XT6 look that much worse. RWD would be nice but this is a huge step up for Kia and will sell very well I believe.

No, they are using the new platform the new BMW Z4 is on. That was a pic of one from 15 years ago...2 generations back.

No, Toyota got the brand new Z4's bones

Not even close. Completely different class of vehicle.

I wonder when the Rivian pickup comes out how it will match up to the Ram Power Wagon,

It's going to be tough to get more test miles in when they're canceling it.. Yeah, a base 3.6 would be fine but something more powerful as an option, with all the GM's available engines, should have been an obvious decision.

You don't need to be an enthusiast to test drive two vehicles and one has torque and one doesn't.

That's insane.

There is this when it comes to electrics.

^ Nahhhh, yer wrong; it's boring, it sucks, its uncompetitive, everything else is better, the rear is bland, the plastics are bad, the tech is behind, the power is low, the drive wheels are front, the speakers suck, the leather is thin, the engine is shared, the brand is damaged, it's not a BMW, it's not a MB, it's not a alfa-romeo, it's not a volvo, it's not an acura, it's not a jagooooo-ar, it's not an audi, I like audi's, audi's are great, audi's are greater than cadillacs, government motors.

Was in my bosses ride...the 9 speed is nice... ?

Happy Birthday!

Should be roundly panned for being so lazily presented. Not competitive in the class. Lincoln shows how it is done in this market space. Profoundly terrible. Looks like an old XC90's metrosexual brother who was conceived, miraculously, after being strained through the sheets.

You could think its unacceptable...I wont argue with you. I aint here to tell you how to think or how to live your life. You could live your life the way you want to. But in reality. It aint a problem...

True. But, a 250 mile road trip is what...3 hour drive? You are speeding doing that trip in 3 hours so you will probably get stopped by the authorities. Where do you need to go and need to do to be driving that fast, bro???!!! SLOW THE ? DOWN!!! With that being said, a 250 mile trip... SCREW THAT!!! Ive got a Bolt...I need to see my cousin in Boston...(for real, I actually DO have an American (Greek) cousin in Boston. He is a pure Bostonian, accent and all!!!) It aint an emergency because Id FLY there. Take a plane... So...an ICE car gets me to Boston in 5 hours. Like in 5 hours flat WITHOUT speeding (well, carefully planned speeding) If Id roll the with the speed limits it would really take me 5 hours and 35-45 minutes...) All the cars that I have ever owned and driven down to Boston, I had enough gas to get there but Id have to gas up soon after arriving in the city. Like in the city...not aroung city limits, but in the city. When I was single, I NEVER stopped, did that drive DIRECT! Ive been to Boston with the family once and been to Toronto (same distance and time as Boston give or take) once and both times, the wife AND/OR the kids MADE ME STOP TWICE...you know, for bathroom breaks and for snacks...a loss of about 30-45 minutes...or an addition to traveling time... So...a 250 mile trip, or a 300 mile trip...in an EV...one DOES have to make a stop for charging JUST before the destination's city's limits to charge up for another 100% so one does not run out of battery...TRUE!!! About 45 minute delay... But as you can see...being married and traveling with the family...I NEVER have been able to do such a trip non-stop anyway...so...FOR ME...MOOT POINT... I have to stop to pee and eat BBQ chips anyway...charging up aint no big deal...and since the charging network is being beefed up, using a Bolt...will not be a problem finding a charging station... But...if Im traveling with my family...why in the hell am I traveling in such a small car? Id take a Tesla Model 3 or Tesla Model S or better yet, the Tesla Model X over the Chevy Bolt for sure...and if that is the case...250 miles could maybe even be done REACHING the 250 mile destination without stopping...but impossible knowing my wife and kids would want to stop to pee anyway!!! All that just to say, when traveling, especially for fun...what is the damned hurry anyway???!!! But even traveling for business, EVs have come along way even in the short time you and I discussed this EV thing 3 years ago...NO EXCUSES NOW... Oh...you can find weakness still, in 2019...but I doubt you will find these weaknesses in 2021...

I never said that at all...Free markets baby...all the pain up front beats keeping inefficient plants and unwanted products out of the production stream. The pain is less if it is done directly, quickly, and by the people who have the most to loose...the owners and directors of the company.

^ Many valid points. • No doubt that 43K number does NOT include home units- I believe the idea in play here is 'fueling' while out- there is no 'anxiety' at the owner's home. • I agree that having a surplus of charging stations out & about goes a long way to reducing range anxiety and is nicely ahead of the sales curve. However I cannot help but to wonder- what if charging stations continue to expand at their admirable rate of installation, but EVs take another 20 years to get to just 5% of the market??

Like I said elsewhere...time for many legacy car makers to go away. Bring on Tesla and the electrics! Would be infinitely more sad about Jag than Ford. But maybe their time is past. Looking forward in positive anticipation at what the future holds.

Make mine hot with a Hemi. One can love ICE and electric both.

^ Awesome. I never got to meet any of my great grandparents, tho both of my sons knew 3 of theirs. My father's father passed in 2016, 6 weeks shy of turning 101. - - - - -