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I don't think this is an issue with the GC. It apparently has something to do with vehicles with a solid front axle... so the GC is safe.3 points
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It weighs 2000 lbs less than a Chiron. AMG One will decimate a Chiron on any track and will beat in in a 1/4 mile drag race which isn’t what the One is even made for. AMG Two (if that happens) might be a pure EV since Mercedes is entering Formula E next year. The Camaro doesn’t meet WLTP either and is still in production and the C8 has the 6.2 V8 still, but since that car hasn’t been tested yet we don’t know if it passes or not.3 points
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It would be more compelling if it were a pure EV than a passé hybrid.... ..and that it makes 1000hp makes it an also-ran, the Chiron already makes 1500hp, without the hybrid gimmick. The AMG One is just a lot of hype that means nothing. AMG Zero would be a better name.3 points
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Considering the C7 is out of production, it’s a moot point.3 points
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Which doesn't matter...no one buying a hypercar cares about the EV gimmick.3 points
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Yeah, the only instances of DW with GCs I've heard of were with the ZJs and WJs which had solid front axles, and was pretty uncommon w/ them...it's a Wrangler thing.2 points
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^ Agreed with the above principal; tech just doesn't move nearly fast enough to make anything 4 years old 'irrelevant'. Most production redesigns are on a 7 year window as it is. I don't feel that a 2-yr delay does anything other than cause a dozen serious buyers a longer wait. That said; the car as a marketing tool IS irrelevant. Not going to sell a single 'nuther A- or C-class if this thing eventually sees the light of day.2 points
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What else is in the auto pipeline that'll be pumping out 1200hp and weighing 2,600-2,800lbs? There is one thing for sure, I don't think it would be irrelevant even in 2 years. People are still talking about the McLaren F1 20 years later... even though it's been surpassed with technology long ago. I would agree if it was only ICE but with it being a full plug-in hybrid with all of that technology, I can't see it being irrelevant in 2 years or even 5 years. Unless there are skunkworks programs from other major automakers, this will still be 1 of 1 in it's "segment". Personally, I am not a fan of the whole stripped out full blown race car made street legal. It just doesn't suit my driving style or "needs". I think a true GT car would be best for me if money wasn't an issue but this thing will rip, if they get everything sorted out.2 points
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Starter Problem Oil Heating problem High RPM idle problem Connection of having the F1 engine power 4 electric motors problem Pathetic battery pack problem AMG One is a Problem that I easily can see being killed off as MB has to pay billions for their Diesel FRAUD! AMG One is DEAD AUTO before it even leaves the factory. Moon Shot FAILED!2 points
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Meanwhile Aston Martin is getting their seven chuckles over this while they ready their Hypercar for release. The One will be old news in 2021. It also appears that the One’s issues extend beyond simple emission restrictions hence the two year delay. https://carbuzz.com/news/aston-martin-is-laughing-at-mercedes-amg-s-latest-struggle2 points
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You genuinely think they will beat the all-time record by 40 seconds? You realize how absurd of a goal that is, right? I don't think it is bad to set a very high goal but there is only so much time to be taken off on such a bumpy and uneven track.2 points
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What superior hyper car? The Nurburgring record is 6:47 and AMG One is shooting for under 5:30. That is over a minute and a half quicker than the fastest Ferrari or Corvette ever tested.2 points
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That's all theoretical at this point, though...if it ever gets into production, then maybe such numbers might mean something...but who cares. Outside of a few journos or M-B test drivers, it will never see a track.2 points
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I can't upvote this far enough or fast enough... Your automotive content is always first rate, thanks for making my day. Worth every ounce of dead dino juice... Once again, I love this.2 points
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I think it is how you look at it. In this day and age-it’s easy to fall in line to the crowd. IN my school days a opinion wasn’t the whole person. It’s why I consider myself among friends here. I’ve gotten to know people here over the years.....and see the big picture-not just who someone voted for. Being someone who nearly died in their youth a few times from Asthma, I try to enjoy life and those around me-and accept those for who they are..... ? And my love for cars and good topics and folks bring me back here... So to summarize, I think it is what one makes of it. And I consider you a good friend, so I hope that helps.....2 points
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Your Smoking CRACK if you think this is their MOON SHOT! Already superior Hyper cars that go faster than the AMG One are built and shown off both EV and Hybrid and as @balthazar has pointed out, you can get an emission legal Hemi that does what this motor says it will do but cannot pass emissions. This MB Halo car is already old news, old hat and old tech. Plus if it was so close to passing emissions then why do they have to delay it by 2 years? ? This is what all auto companies do to projects that are already on the possible chopping block due to economics and money lossing cash flow. AMG One I am calling it now is DEAD!2 points
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Figure it out? Really? Billions in fines for lying about diesels, model cute coming, billions lost in the past year, and you think they’ll just “figure it out”? Man you take blind fanboyism to the next level. In fairness the MB One can’t do corners right now either, at least not legally on the street unlike that Dodge you want to criticize. Don’t you get it ccap? If Mercedes can’t do it then no one can! All hail the mighty TriStar hood ornament!2 points
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Well that Dodge can't do corners. AMG One's track performance is going to be legendary. Targeting Nurburgring in the 5's. You'd also think that being a hybrid and being able to run on full EV that it should meet emissions. Because in theory the gas engine could only run half the time.2 points
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We had this car in darker blue with the 3.8L. Once it was given to my older brother he rented an engine hoist and put the v8 powertrain in when he was 19. Too bad rust took its toll so quickly, was good to us otherwise.2 points
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Definitely an improvement... haven't really liked Hondas for years.1 point
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I thought so too for what is barely even enough extra chrome to be a Denali edition.1 point
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Yeah, not surprised here. For all the hype over the Wrangler over the decades, one thing had never changed. They are notoriously unreliable and now they are overpriced to boot. I understand why some folks defend them (for their off road prowess anyway), but you literally could not even give me one, even if it was brand new. Hopefully this fix helps those who paid way too much for it.1 point
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Sorry but he is hitting that pipe pretty hard to make such assumptions, even by his fanboy standards.1 point
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I completely understand that part but I think the track surface will hold it back more than the performance capabilities themselves.1 point
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What superior hypercar? How about all the ones currently running said roads and not part of Daimler’s imagination right now, which is all the AMG One is right now.1 point
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Here's my trivia on this. The '75s and 76s came standard with the 4.1 liter 250 ci L6. I've seen a couple. Mostly in the '75s. Advertised for $3,999 and with no air. I'd have taken one off their hands. Just for '77, the 3.8 liter 231 ci V6 was standard. It was odd firing and I wish they had never put them in there. Just say I came across the big Cutty like these with the inline 6, I'd gladly have kept it. How can you destroy a Chevy inline 6? It's not easy. On the other hand, Regal/Century used the odd firing 3.8 liter 231 V6 in '75, '76, and '77. And it was unfortunate to see a rare and beautiful Regal S/R coupe with the trestle shifter between the buckets sometimes powered by one. I didn't have a problem with 3.8s from 1978 on, when the crankshaft revision made for smooth idling and an inherently more durable engine. I also feel that the Regal/Century should have always had the 260 V8 option if the LeMans/Grand LeMans always had it in those same years. That made no sense. Pontiac had something like 5 engine choices for the slower selling vehicle among GM's opera windowed coupes.1 point
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Wonder if it has 2 V8s under the hood...I've toyed around w/ building something like that in 1/25th scale w/ a couple Revell models.1 point
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The EV-only range being quoted is a mere 25 miles. That's pretty pathetic.1 point
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If it ever sees a track...it will be just another garage queen hyper car that catches fire and means nothing. Just another pointless exercise soon to be forgotten when the next faster thing appears.1 point
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They aren't going to kill it, this is their moon shot vehicle. This is their chance to build a car that it might take 20 years before anyone rivals it. They are all in at this point, and the cost of developing the powertrain which is the expensive part is done. This is a matter of spending money to get it emissions certified. They can eat a billion dollar fine too. These big corporations sit on big cash reserves, they'll probably use the loss as a tax write off and move on. Daimler lost way more on money on Chrysler than it will on these fines and they are still here, and still #1 luxury car producer. No one has done something like this, the current F1 engines are ridiculous, I've heard the power unit in an F1 car is about $5 million. I imagine they are selling AMG One at a loss, unless the economies of scale have allowed them to turn a profit at $3 million.1 point
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Reminds me of the Tesla having to warm its batteries for AN HOUR to achieve max accel in ludicrious mode. The case is certainly easily made that EVs are benchmarking ICs but are still falling well short.1 point
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