[Newbiewar]

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2007 Chevrolet Silverado 1500HD Ext. Cab
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thats a heavy duty truck... its got the allyson...

looks okay to me...

somepoeple in the work industry dont want a pretty interior cause they figure they'll just ruin it... then if its ruined, it looks horrible...

also this is GM's best seller, they've got to keep it at a price point competative with the Fords that were already beating it in price...

I'm sure an LTZ model will be much more elegant...

[Croc]

I don't really get all the focus on interior details around here. Sure a good looking interior is nice to have, but if the gauges are easily read, the controls are easily used and the seats are comfortable, I'm usually happy. The rest of the vehicle is far more important to me. This looks like a fine interior to me (what I can see of it).

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Because we want GM to have more conquest sales. Ever sit in a Honda Pilot? Lotta attention to detail...it really makes you feel valued as a customer. Also...see my post in the SATURN AURA DEMONSTRATES REFINEMENT or whatever it's called thread.....on the two houses...maybe then you'll get it more clearly.

[Dodgefan]

I'd expect nothing but the best here. No way will the General let us down.

Wonder how much incentive the rest of the industry will have to put on their trucks to get a sale? I can see lots of rotting Tundra's, Titan's and Ridglines with this one! I'd expect sales to dwindle at the Ford and Dodge dealerships as well (older outdated models). These are the latest and greatest and I predict there WILL be a LOT of catching up to do.

Let's watch Toyota and Nissan quaking in their knees once these things arrive!

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Ford and Dodge are hardlly outdated. Ford still has by farthe nicest interior, and the most towing capacity I think. WIll this change when the new SIlverado hits the streets? Well, maybe, but the Ford's got a damn good interior. As for Dodge? Outdated? Hardly. It's got the sharpest handling of the full sizers, the only one with a NAV system (though the new interior is only OK), it's built well fromw hat I've heard, and it currently has the most powerful V8 in it's class with MDS. If the chevy gets something with more powerful than the 5.7 litre hemi, Dodge has nothing more to do than stick the 6.1 hemi under the hood.

As for sales, yes I think the new Sliverado willmake some conquest sales of the F series and the Ram, but not to the point where they "dwindle". We all know domestic truck owners are fiercely loyal to their trucks/brands. I do however, expect plenty of conquest from would-be new Tundra buyers. Cuz that sucker is ugly.

[Matt276]

It didn't use to matter.  But after riding in a 06 Maxima rental, I have to say that I can see how it does to some people.  Given the choice, I'm going to buy the vehicle with the nicer interior, which is why I'll probably get a Mazda3 instead of a Cobalt.

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You got it. GM, despite tough competition, still release average cars. You have to beat the others, GM is aiming for a price instead of a great product. That's why they are loosing market share. Hard to attract a young buyer with a Cobalt when there is a Mazda 3 or Civic as competitor.

I think GM has to be better than that.

[Newbiewar]

You got it. GM, despite tough competition, still release average cars. You have to beat the others, GM is aiming for a price instead of a great product. That's why they are loosing market share. Hard to attract a young buyer with a Cobalt when there is a Mazda 3 or Civic as competitor.

I think GM has to be better than that.

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i remember when GM said they couldnt lower the price of their vehicles because they'd make everyone go out of business... they had a 50% market share when their product was superior and the most expensive...

now they are aiming at being the greatest value... a compeletly different market... not to mention a small market... no one wants the vehicle thats got the cheapest price, they want the one with the most useable features, the one with the most elegant styling, the one with the most comfort, on the eyes and erogonomics...

cars arent rational decisions... they arent finanially sound decisions... so if your going to make a bad decision, make it a good one...wealthy people dont buy mercedies and cadillacs because they represent a good value. people purchase the best vehicle in the class they need. very few want the $6999 kia rio special...

look at the Tahoes and Suburbans, they are the best vehicles in their class, and they also command some of the highest prices in the industry... not to mention they are the best selling suv's and that GM has a +62% marketshare in the fullsize SUV market...

if GM could do with its cars what it does with its SUV's we'd be in fantastic shape...

This post has been edited by Newbiewar: 28 April 2006 - 03:01 PM

[Domesticated]

Ford and Dodge are hardlly outdated. Ford still has by farthe nicest interior, and the most towing capacity I think. WIll this change when the new SIlverado hits the streets? Well, maybe, but the Ford's got a damn good interior. As for Dodge? Outdated? Hardly. It's got the sharpest handling of the full sizers, the only one with a NAV system (though the new interior is only OK), it's built well fromw hat I've heard, and it currently has the most powerful V8 in it's class with MDS. If the chevy gets something with more powerful than the 5.7 litre hemi, Dodge has nothing more to do than stick the 6.1 hemi under the hood.

As for sales, yes I think the new Sliverado willmake some conquest sales of the F series and the Ram, but not to the point where they "dwindle". We all know domestic truck owners are fiercely loyal to their trucks/brands. I do however, expect plenty of conquest from would-be new Tundra buyers. Cuz that sucker is ugly.

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Ford F-series trucks are heading into their 3rd year, Dodge trucks just got a facelift. I'll have to dig out the article but I read, Dodge revised their trucks for fear that the new GMT900's were going to be THAT good. Ford trucks are number 1 sure, probably will be forever, but I predict these new Silverado's and Sierra's to pull a few sales away.

And the Tundra IS ugly. It is also a tonka toy compared to the real trucks fromr the US. Nissan is just cheap and unreliable from trucks to cars.

[Matt276]

if GM could do with its cars what it does with its SUV's we'd be in fantastic shape...

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yep! Exactly what I think. Great SUV, average cars.

[Cubical-aka-Moltar]

Hmm...interesting..first time I can think of where the GM full size trucks and SUVs didn't have the same dash design within the same generation. Doesn't look as nice as the Tahoe, IMHO...looks too utilitarian..

Hopefully, the 'professional grade' GMCs will be more upscale and less gray plastic inside..

This post has been edited by moltar: 28 April 2006 - 05:11 PM

[Dodgefan]

Ford F-series trucks are heading into their 3rd year, Dodge trucks just got a facelift. I'll have to dig out the article but I read, Dodge revised their trucks for fear that the new GMT900's were going to be THAT good. Ford trucks are number 1 sure, probably will be forever, but I predict these new Silverado's and Sierra's to pull a few sales away.

And the Tundra IS ugly. It is also a tonka toy compared to the real trucks fromr the US. Nissan is just cheap and unreliable from trucks to cars.

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It wasn't fear, it was time for the Ram's midcycle refresh. There's nothing wrong with being competetive. Also, the new face is only part of the story.

Dodge has significantly updated its full-size Ram pickup this year with a new body style, new luxury-oriented features and enhanced hardware. The big news, so to speak, is a new super-sized Mega Cab model. It features a 20-inch-longer cabin to provide best-in-class interior room. All Ram 1500s feature a new dash, center console, seats and radios. A navigation system and a rear-seat DVD entertainment system are newly optional. Hardware updates include a stiffened frame and, for 4WD models, a new independent front suspension (excluding the Mega Cab) and a front-axle disconnect system tied into a new electronic transfer case. Dodge has also fitted the Ram's 5.7-liter V8 with a multidisplacement cylinder deactivation system that's said to improve fuel economy in certain driving situations. Wrapping things up for the 2006 Ram is freshened front-end styling and new wheels

Can't fault Dodge for keeping the Ram up to date, unlike a certain other company who has let their Silverado more or less rot until now.

I agree and said the new GMT900s will no doubt pull some sales from Dodge and Ford, but it's the imports that will be hit hardest (particularly Toyota). I feel sorta bad for Nissan, unlike Toyota, they didn't half-ass their Titan, and made a REAL truck. They deserve some sales with it.

This post has been edited by Dodgefan: 28 April 2006 - 06:20 PM

[Mr.Krinkle]

dont feel too badly for nissan...they dont mind selling all those maximas and altimas.

[Flybrian]

Can't fault Dodge for keeping the Ram up to date, unlike a certain other company who has let their Silverado more or less rot until now.

If by 'rot' you mean 'still outsell the Ram because they're damn good trucks,' then agreed. As for the MegaCab, you do realize this is merely Dodge finally catching up with Ford and GM in rear seating spaciousness for the crew cabs.

I feel sorta bad for Nissan, unlike Toyota, they didn't half-ass their Titan, and made a REAL truck. They deserve some sales with it.

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I don't. Titan is a charictature of an American pickup and a ghastly (in some trims) one at that. Plus, they don't have a fraction of the variety the Big Three have in powertrain, trim levels, and cab/bed configurations. In that sense, it will be a niche truck appealing to those that eschew using their pickups and instead deck them out with 26" spinners and flourescent lights. I can attest to that because that's a good number of Titans I've seen. It may not be "half-assing", but it isn't full-assing. Not yet. If ever.

[rkmdogs]

You people all talk about these truck features as if they were chips in a poker game!
And everybody is playing a bluff hand!

Trucks first, foremost and always are work vehicles. The ability to perform
various tasks is the primary objective of any fleet manager, who has to buy the most bang for the buck!

He couldn't give a rats' ass what shade of grey the dash is, does it give the
information that he needs for his operators to do their jobs!

You all assume functionality is an add-on accessory that you can buy and add
to your frew-frew queen.

Looks? To most fleet managers, they couldn't care less. It is the wanna-bes
who worry if the upholstry will clash with tonights outfit!

I looked closely at the pics of the dash, and even tho this was a spy photo,
and had an add-on trailer brake controller on the left of the column, I did not see
any built-in!
Guages? seems to be a contest to eliminate as many as possible! Let'em
add them on as aftermarket if they want that info.
Someone said that this truck had an Allison transmission. But I didn't see
a trans temp guage in the array!
One of my pet peeves, ---- if the drivers know how to use'em, is no vaccuum
guage! Especially now with gas prices going thru the roof!

Your loyalty is commendable guys, but you need to wake up and take a dose
of----- reality!

[Dodgefan]

If by 'rot' you mean 'still outsell the Ram because they're damn good trucks,' then agreed. As for the MegaCab, you do realize this is merely Dodge finally catching up with Ford and GM in rear seating spaciousness for the crew cabs.
I don't. Titan is a charictature of an American pickup and a ghastly (in some trims) one at that. Plus, they don't have a fraction of the variety the Big Three have in powertrain, trim levels, and cab/bed configurations. In that sense, it will be a niche truck appealing to those that eschew using their pickups and instead deck them out with 26" spinners and flourescent lights. I can attest to that because that's a good number of Titans I've seen. It may not be "half-assing", but it isn't full-assing. Not yet. If ever.

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Well you know, historically the Ram has always been #3...and as I previously mentioned...there's brand loyalty. Which means owners tend stick to that brand. Now then, when they refeshed the, did they address it's driving dynamics or lackthereof? did they address it's horrible interior that looks worse than the previous gen pickups, did they give the V8 a 5 speed? did they increase output of said V8 to match the Hemi? Nope. Only the SS if you want to call that thing"super sport" and next to the SRT-10...it's pathetic.

Also. They made it uglier. I pray the GMT900 Sliverado will look better.

I guess they haven't let it rot, but at the same time, they didn't do enough for it. It may sell better than the Ram, which it always has, but it's still 2nd ro the F-150, which it has been for like 20+ years (I forget exactly how many).

[Newbiewar]

Hmm...interesting..first time I can think of where the GM full size trucks and SUVs didn't have the same dash design within the same generation. Doesn't look as nice as the Tahoe, IMHO...looks too utilitarian..

Hopefully, the 'professional grade' GMCs will be more upscale and less gray plastic inside..

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

GMC has been getting different interior colors...

also yes, its nice to see a bit more work truck in this... if i were a business owner, i wouldnt want a tahoe interior i'd be afraid to damage it.

You people all talk about these truck features as if they were chips in a poker game!
And everybody is playing a bluff hand!

Trucks first, foremost and always are work vehicles. The ability to perform
various tasks is the primary objective of any fleet manager, who has to buy the most bang for the buck!

He couldn't give a rats' ass what shade of grey the dash is, does it give the
information that he needs for his operators to do their jobs!

You all assume functionality is an add-on accessory that you can buy and add
to your frew-frew queen.

Looks? To most fleet managers, they couldn't care less. It is the wanna-bes
who worry if the upholstry will clash with tonights outfit!

I looked closely at the pics of the dash, and even tho this was a spy photo,
and had an add-on trailer brake controller on the left of the column, I did not see
any built-in!
Guages? seems to be a contest to eliminate as many as possible! Let'em
add them on as aftermarket if they want that info.
Someone said that this truck had an Allison transmission. But I didn't see
a trans temp guage in the array!
One of my pet peeves, ---- if the drivers know how to use'em, is no vaccuum
guage! Especially now with gas prices going thru the roof!

Your loyalty is commendable guys, but you need to wake up and take a dose
of----- reality!

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the reason i suggested it was a allyson was because of the [+/-] button on the shifter, to suggest the 6sp gear selector...

how many people use their silverados as their family vehicle... thats why crew cabs became so popular was because people use them as the house hold vehicle... it holds up to 6 people(another reason they changed the dash... the middle seat up front couldnt fit anyone), and the bed makes it useful to the man of the house... and ultimate vehicle... they must maintain that...

[rkmdogs]

the reason i suggested it was a allyson was because of the [+/-] button on the shifter, to suggest the 6sp gear selector...

how many people use their silverados as their family vehicle... thats why crew cabs became so popular was because people use them as the house hold vehicle... it holds up to 6 people(another reason they changed the dash... the middle seat up front couldnt fit anyone),  and the bed makes it useful to the man of the house... and ultimate vehicle... they must maintain that...

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The [+/-] button can also be the tow-mode switch that has been on current 4l60E
trannies!
Crew cabs also became popular as work trucks because a lot of jobs need a 3 or
4 man crew, and it is always cheaper to send one truck, than two.
Utility companies were the ones who pushed this!

[camaro]

I'm glad a bought a 2006 Silverado.

The problem is people have forgotten what trucks are made for. GM got a bad rap for the interiors but they were more function before fashion. I had a 1996 K1500 and the interior was perfect. It was laid out logically & SIMPLE. All that chrome and the layout make it look like the inside of a Monte Carlo. Very sad that these trucks have fell to the yuppies who got bored with their SUVs.

EDIT: I will reserve more detailed judgement when the official pictures are released and I see the interiors of higher trim levels.

This post has been edited by camaro: 29 April 2006 - 12:39 PM

[FAPTurbo]

As long as the dash is well built, functional and user friendly, I don't care what materials are used... It's only the urban cowboy crowd who will care about the little things. After all, the current GM/Chevy trucks still sell well despite the dash, which kind of means that a real truck buyer could care less about "unimportant" interior appointments.

The Contracter who needs a dependable truck that won't break down when on a deadline is not going to care about the plastics quality.

The Rancher/Farmer who needs a truck that can last (or even outlast) their lifetime will likely not give a about the HVAC console being a different colour.

And the lawn technicians and maintenance crews are likely to overlook the upholstry materials as long as the vehicle offers best in class fuel economy and power.

I have no problem with optioning out a truck. But maybe if you are more concerned about wood trim design or CD changer capacity than the box length or trailering, then maybe, just maybe, you should be looking at a different class of vehicle.

[rkmdogs]

As long as the dash is well built, functional and user friendly, I don't care what materials are used... It's only the urban cowboy crowd who will care about the little things. After all, the current GM/Chevy trucks still sell well despite the dash, which kind of means that a real truck buyer could care less about "unimportant" interior appointments.

The Contracter who needs a dependable truck that won't break down when on a deadline is not going to care about the plastics quality.

The Rancher/Farmer who needs a truck that can last (or even outlast) their lifetime will likely not give a    about the HVAC console being a different colour.

And the lawn technicians and maintenance crews are likely to overlook the upholstry materials as long as the vehicle offers best in class fuel economy and power.

I have no problem with optioning out a truck. But maybe if you are more concerned about wood trim design or CD changer capacity than the box length or trailering, then maybe, just maybe, you should be looking at a different class of vehicle.

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And I say, "Amen",
I mean that with a capital AMEN !!!!

You have not only hit the nail on the head Captain, you done sunk it in one blow!
Stick around and stay on the soapbox!

[bobo]

I have no problem with what I'm seeing so far. What I like over the Tahoe is the higher placement of the radio and HVAC controls.

[Newbiewar]

The [+/-] button can also be the tow-mode switch that has been on current 4l60E
trannies!
Crew cabs also became popular as work trucks because a lot of jobs need a 3 or
4 man crew, and it is always cheaper to send one truck, than two.
Utility companies were the ones who pushed this!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

no the Tow Haul mode is at the end of the stick...
where as the current Allyson transmission includes an additional button to upshift and downshift on the outer edge of the shifter...

as for the crew cab comment, we dont sell any fleet at our dealership so i wouldnt know... i just know our customers... use them for primary transportion to and from work... also to cart around their familys