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    Mid-Engine Corvette Reportedly Not Appearing In Detroit

      It would have been nice for the Corvette to appear at Detroit, but that's not happening

    If you were hoping that Chevrolet would bring the house down next month with the debut of the mid-engine Corvette at the Detroit Auto Show, we have some bad news for you.

    GM Authority has learned from GM that Chevrolet isn't planning to show anything car or crossover related at the show. Motor Authority was able to confirm this report by speaking to sources who know GM's plans for future vehicles. It is expected that the Cadillac XT6 crossover will debut at the show.

    Rumor has it that GM could debut the mid-engine Corvette at the New York Auto Show - the original 1953 Corvette debuted at the Motorama event that year in New York - or hold its own event to have the media focus on the new model and nothing else. The latter option seems the most likely to us.

    We'll keep you posted if anything changes.

    Source: GM Authority, Motor Authority

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    Maybe a Family of Mid engine Corvette auto's? ;) 

    Maybe they are planning to shelve the Ice version and go all EV! :P 

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    Instead of a low volume niche mid engined model, they probably should have done a high performance crossover.  Something to compete w/ the Cayenne.  

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    11 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    Instead of a low volume niche mid engined model, they probably should have done a high performance crossover.  Something to compete w/ the Cayenne.  

    It cannot be named Corvette.  Now a Cadillac that competes with the Cayenne is a great idea.

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    8 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

    It cannot be named Corvette.  Now a Cadillac that competes with the Cayenne is a great idea.

    No reason it couldn't be named Corvette.  Porsche has sports cars and SUVs.  i like the idea of a family of Corvette models--front engine sports car like the C7,   mid engine sports car like the C8, a performance SUV, maybe a EV sports car, maybe a hypercar.   And within VWAG, Porsche coexists w/ Audi and higher brands.    Corvette could be relative to Cadillac how Porsche is to Audi.

    The idea of a multi-model Corvette line is an old one, I remember seeing the idea proposed in Car & Driver maybe 20 years ago. 

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    59 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    No reason it couldn't be named Corvette.  Porsche has sports cars and SUVs.  i like the idea of a family of Corvette models--front engine sports car like the C7,   mid engine sports car like the C8, a performance SUV, maybe a EV sports car, maybe a hypercar.   And within VWAG, Porsche coexists w/ Audi and higher brands.    Corvette could be relative to Cadillac how Porsche is to Audi.

    The idea of a multi-model Corvette line is an old one, I remember seeing the idea proposed in Car & Driver maybe 20 years ago. 

    Multiple lines of Corvette was there as a concept from the beginning. It was nearly its own brand of cars inside the Chevy brand.

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    Chevy dealers would never allow a Corvette brand to happen, because it would mean they lose the Corvette and that "Corvette" brand would then get pushed to the Cadillac dealer channel.  I can't see them doing stand alone Corvette dealers.

    The Detroit auto show has also lost a lot of luster, so I think they'll put this car out at another time.

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    30 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Corvette can be a sub-brand inside Chevy.

    Because Chevy dealers are equipped to provide a sales and service experience similar to Porsche dealers?

    Although you could argue that all 4 GM brands should offer a dealership experience to rival Porsche, customer service doesn't really need to be reserved for just a luxury brand. 

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    10 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    Because Chevy dealers are equipped to provide a sales and service experience similar to Porsche dealers?

    Although you could argue that all 4 GM brands should offer a dealership experience to rival Porsche, customer service doesn't really need to be reserved for just a luxury brand. 

    There are Chevy dealers that get special treatment based on the number of Corvettes they sell... or the number of Silverados they sell.  A Corvette sub-brand "boutique"* inside of certain dealers would work. That's how Genesis launched.

     

    *I hate that word in regards to buying cars. 

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    The Genesis launch has also been a total botch job by Hyundai.   

    I don’t see the crowd that is considering a Porsche, AMG or Alfa Romeo/Maserati walking into a Chevy dealer to check out a Corvette sedan or Corvette SUV.  

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    4 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    The Genesis launch has also been a total botch job by Hyundai.   

    I don’t see the crowd that is considering a Porsche, AMG or Alfa Romeo/Maserati walking into a Chevy dealer to check out a Corvette sedan or Corvette SUV.  

    If the product is good enough, they will come.  But it isn't happening anyway. 

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    Having a 'Corvette SUV' is EXACTLY like having a '911 SUV'.
    As much as people may espouse the 'brand within a brand' ideal, it's not viable or sensible, IMO.

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    Said it before and I'll say it again.. having both of these brands.. er.. all three.. U see the differences. Cadillac dealer is all accommodating.. Chevy dealer is not. Only when I go in with a $60-$100K Corvette do they roll out Orange carpet. That is inconsistent with the fact that one can now purchase $80K Camaros and Tahoe/Suburbans/Silverados from the place.. but hey.. Chevy is the Every man brand at GM the same as Ford, Toyota, Honda are.

    Again.. the Corvette should be a separate brand in a partitioned off dealership spot at Chevy or CADILLAC if enthusiasts aren't allowed to make the decision. If Enthusiasts have to have Corvette at Chevy.. then partition it off..  and treat them with the same love one gets at Cadillac. Corvettes are not cheap. They are a vehicle selling for $60K to a soon to be $150K. This is about $5-7K less than your Porsche line-up unless U get into the E-Hybrid models.. Which GM should be gearing up to do. People want to say that "No one will spend $150K on a Vette..." FUUCK outta here. They can and THEY WILL.

    I have to constantly remind people.. some of my colleagues have Porsches. Its THEIR ONLY car, even the 911 and the Cayman/Boxster owners. Some might have a beater that is 10 years old.

    Vette owners very seldom have just a Vette as their DD. Most that I know also own a Silverado/Sierra, Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade or something else as a daily. Normally they are no more than 5 years old if that. I don't even drive my Vette or V in the rain or when it looks like its gonna rain cause I don't want to get it dirty. Many who own a Vette as a toy have the same mind set. Meaning.. THEY HAVE MONEY. They needed to be catered to just like the cats at Caddy.. which ironically sells at the same price point as CORVETTE. My Z06 retailed for the exact same as my CTS-V. Bet good money that the CT6-V comes in priced like a ZR1, which will still be less expensive than a B7 Alpina by about $17K

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    Corvette is not a brand though it is a model.  I don’t see any calls for an Escalde brand with sports coupes and sedans.  Porsche was always a brand with multiple models.  

    I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car, or performance SUVs or the stuff you need to challenge Porsche, Aston Martin, Maserati, Ferrari or whoever you want to throw in there.  Cadillac is GM’s top brand (or at least it is supposed to be).  Cadillac should have the super cars, hyper cars, Tesla Model S fighter, Bentley Bentayga or Aston Martin SUV fighter etc.  

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    10 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car...

    I've read elsewhere that it may, in fact, be happening. Let's see.

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    25 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Corvette is not a brand though it is a model.  I don’t see any calls for an Escalde brand with sports coupes and sedans.  Porsche was always a brand with multiple models.  

    I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car, or performance SUVs or the stuff you need to challenge Porsche, Aston Martin, Maserati, Ferrari or whoever you want to throw in there.  Cadillac is GM’s top brand (or at least it is supposed to be).  Cadillac should have the super cars, hyper cars, Tesla Model S fighter, Bentley Bentayga or Aston Martin SUV fighter etc.  

    Corvette, over the last 10 years, has had as many models as Porsche ever did in the pre-Cayenne days. REGARDLESS... we have a Stingray, GS, Z06, and ZR1 currently.. this MID-Engine will essentially give us 4 different body styles.. as the only two body styles currently identical are the GS and Z06. So why not make it a Sub-Brand somewhat autonomous? 

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    2 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    Corvette, over the last 10 years, has had as many models as Porsche ever did in the pre-Cayenne days. REGARDLESS... we have a Stingray, GS, Z06, and ZR1 currently.. this MID-Engine will essentially give us 4 different body styles.. as the only two body styles currently identical are the GS and Z06. So why not make it a Sub-Brand somewhat autonomous? 

    Those are all trim levels aside from the mid-engine car that we haven’t seen the final deal yet.  Porsche currently makes 23 models of the 911, I just counted them on their website.  Before the Cayenne Porsche had the 944 the 928, 968, 959, etc, they always had several cars other than maybe in the 60s or 70s. 

    For Corvette to be a brand they would need at least 2 SUVs and what platform would those go on?  They would need an entry level sports car, and a sedan or Panamera/AMG GT sedan fighter to go with the current Corvette and the mid-engine car.  All of those would be slotted above Cadillac yet sold at Chevy dealers?   Good luck trying to sell an Equinox sized Corvette SUV at a Chevy dealer for $75,000 which Cadillac dealers are charging $40k for a crossover of that same size.

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    Those are all trim levels aside from the mid-engine car that we haven’t seen the final deal yet.  Porsche currently makes 23 models of the 911, I just counted them on their website.  Before the Cayenne Porsche had the 944 the 928, 968, 959, etc, they always had several cars other than maybe in the 60s or 70s. 

    For Corvette to be a brand they would need at least 2 SUVs and what platform would those go on?  They would need an entry level sports car, and a sedan or Panamera/AMG GT sedan fighter to go with the current Corvette and the mid-engine car.  All of those would be slotted above Cadillac yet sold at Chevy dealers?   Good luck trying to sell an Equinox sized Corvette SUV at a Chevy dealer for $75,000 which Cadillac dealers are charging $40k for a crossover of that same size.

    So by that U are saying that before the Cayenne.. Porsche was NOT a brand. hmmmm END OF DISCUSSION.. Go back to Germany KrautBoy

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    On 12/11/2018 at 6:21 PM, dfelt said:

    Maybe a Family of Mid engine Corvette auto's? ;) 

    Maybe they are planning to shelve the Ice version and go all EV! :P 

    Doubtful. 

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    2 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    So by that U are saying that before the Cayenne.. Porsche was NOT a brand. hmmmm END OF DISCUSSION.. Go back to Germany KrautBoy

    That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

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    8 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

    Yes, Porsche has always been a brand--whether an independent company or owned by VWAG as they are now.  No one sane would argue that.   On the other hand, Corvette is a model with different trim levels within the Chevrolet brand.  That is the distinction.  

    At some points in time Porsche had only one street model--like in the 356 era, but after the 911 came out, they had periods of time with only 2 street models--like in the late 60s with the 911 and 912, the early 70s with the 911 and 914, the late 90s with the 911 and Boxster.  And of course many trim levels within those models.   Like the modern 911 which often has 20-24 trim levels in any particular year--in comparison to the Corvette which has 4 currently (base, Z06, GS, ZR-1?)

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    9 hours ago, smk4565 said:

    That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

    Look slim.. I'm American unlike U and still know Porsche's history due to racing.. but I don't sip the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier flavored water the way U do.. 

    Your rational... as I have explained.. the Corvette sub-division CURRENTLY has 4 distinct Corvettes under its umbrella. The Stingray, which has trims as well, different engine and transmission tuning, and price point. The GS.. also different trims, same engine, but distinct body and suspension tuning, and price point. The Z06.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. And the ZR1.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. Chevy doesn't say it.. but that my young knabe.. is a BRANDED vehicle. Not to mention that many people who are not enthusiasts think that CORVETTE is an independent vehicle similar to Porsche and Ferrari. THIS IS FACT.  If Chevy were to continue with the FE Corvette, while still offering the ME design.. its a done deal.. and we will have a genuine 4th American GM Division. I also point out that for all intents.... the Camaro has been primed to take over the head job at Chevy since the C5 debuted in 2010

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    26 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    Look slim.. I'm American unlike U and still know Porsche's history due to racing.. but I don't sip the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier flavored water the way U do.. 

    Your rational... as I have explained.. the Corvette sub-division CURRENTLY has 4 distinct Corvettes under its umbrella. The Stingray, which has trims as well, different engine and transmission tuning, and price point. The GS.. also different trims, same engine, but distinct body and suspension tuning, and price point. The Z06.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. And the ZR1.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. Chevy doesn't say it.. but that my young knabe.. is a BRANDED vehicle. Not to mention that many people who are not enthusiasts think that CORVETTE is an independent vehicle similar to Porsche and Ferrari. THIS IS FACT.  If Chevy were to continue with the FE Corvette, while still offering the ME design.. its a done deal.. and we will have a genuine 4th American GM Division. I also point out that for all intents.... the Camaro has been primed to take over the head job at Chevy since the C5 debuted in 2010

    Stringray, GS, Z06 and ZR1 in coupe and convertible is 8 models.  The 911 has 23 models.

    My point is Corvette is not a brand.  If they want to make Corvette a full line brand with an entry level sports car like the Cayman/Boxster/718, the current Vette, the mid-engine Vette, 2 SUVs and 1 sedan, then I am all for that.  But you can't sell that all at a Chevy dealer and compete with Porsche or Aston Martin.  And I know GM won't spend the money to make a whole new brand and dealership channel after they just killed about 5 brands 10 years ago.

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    9 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Stringray, GS, Z06 and ZR1 in coupe and convertible is 8 models.  The 911 has 23 models.

    My point is Corvette is not a brand.  If they want to make Corvette a full line brand with an entry level sports car like the Cayman/Boxster/718, the current Vette, the mid-engine Vette, 2 SUVs and 1 sedan, then I am all for that.  But you can't sell that all at a Chevy dealer and compete with Porsche or Aston Martin.  And I know GM won't spend the money to make a whole new brand and dealership channel after they just killed about 5 brands 10 years ago.

    A trim line is not a model.  The E300 and E400 are not separate models. 

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    17 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Stringray, GS, Z06 and ZR1 in coupe and convertible is 8 models.  The 911 has 23 models. 

    Nope.  One Corvette model with 4 trim levels in 2 body styles.   One 911 model with 23 trim levels.  3 body styles in some of the trim levels. 

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    3 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    A trim line is not a model.  The E300 and E400 are not separate models. 

    I agree.  But I don't really see Z06 as a different model either.  Coupe and convertible sure different models.  In that case the 911 has 3 body styles, coupe, targa, cabriolet, and like 6-8 trims on each.

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    1 minute ago, smk4565 said:

    I agree.  But I don't really see Z06 as a different model either.  Coupe and convertible sure different models.  In that case the 911 has 3 body styles, coupe, targa, cabriolet, and like 6-8 trims on each.

    Yes, and some trims are available on some body styles and not others...like the GT3 and GT3 RS are two trim levels, available on 1 body style each.  While the Carrera S is available in all 3 body styles (Porsche might consider the body style-trim level combo as a unique trim level, but that's just semantics).. 

    With the Corvette, there are 2 body styles--coupe and convertible, and 4 trim levels.  Pretty simple. 

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    6 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

    Yes, and some trims are available on some body styles and not others...like the GT3 and GT3 RS are two trim levels, available on 1 body style each.  While the Carrera S is available in all 3 body styles (Porsche might consider the body style-trim level combo as a unique trim level, but that's just semantics).. 

    With the Corvette, there are 2 body styles--coupe and convertible, and 4 trim levels.  Pretty simple. 

    Leave it to the Germans to overcomplicate matters. 

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    8 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Leave it to the Germans to overcomplicate matters. 

    Of course.  And certain trim levels appear for one or two model years, then disappear and re-appear mid season through another year..or how two generations of 911 overlap for some years and trims. 

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    57 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Stringray, GS, Z06 and ZR1 in coupe and convertible is 8 models.  The 911 has 23 models.

    My point is Corvette is not a brand.  If they want to make Corvette a full line brand with an entry level sports car like the Cayman/Boxster/718, the current Vette, the mid-engine Vette, 2 SUVs and 1 sedan, then I am all for that.  But you can't sell that all at a Chevy dealer and compete with Porsche or Aston Martin.  And I know GM won't spend the money to make a whole new brand and dealership channel after they just killed about 5 brands 10 years ago.

    It was 4 Brands.. Pontiac, Saab, Hummer, and Saturn.. due to overlap. Each, having no real distinct differences from certain other brands within the portfolio.. I was completely happy with this. The Pontiac brand was pretty much spot on with Chevy, with the exception of not having trucks. Hence.. the G8 becoming the SS for instance. The Saturn brand was almost spot on with Buick.. thus the Opel connection going to Buick after the death of Saturn. Saab too for that matter. The only one that I had an issue with being closed was Hummer.. but even before 2009 I constantly said that he Hummer brand should not be independent.. and be a GMC Trim like Denali. 

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    1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

    Stringray, GS, Z06 and ZR1 in coupe and convertible is 8 models.  The 911 has 23 models.

    My point is Corvette is not a brand.  If they want to make Corvette a full line brand with an entry level sports car like the Cayman/Boxster/718, the current Vette, the mid-engine Vette, 2 SUVs and 1 sedan, then I am all for that.  But you can't sell that all at a Chevy dealer and compete with Porsche or Aston Martin.  And I know GM won't spend the money to make a whole new brand and dealership channel after they just killed about 5 brands 10 years ago.

    I hear what @Drew Dowdell and @Robert Hall are saying and I don't completely agree even tho they may actually be right.

    What I'm saying is that the GM Brass have ample configs to call the Corvette line a division.. or sub-division. Also.. why are a convertible and hardtop being included as a model. To me the 5Series and the 6Series are models.. but the 6series and the 6Series GC or Convertible are not models, but variants

     

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    11 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    I hear what @Drew Dowdell and @Robert Hall are saying and I don't completely agree even tho they may actually be right.

    What I'm saying is that the GM Brass have ample configs to call the Corvette line a division.. or sub-division. Also.. why are a convertible and hardtop being included as a model. To me the 5Series and the 6Series are models.. but the 6series and the 6Series GC or Convertible are not models, but variants

     

    It's all in the semantics.  Different automakers use terms in different ways.   To me a convertible or coupe is a body style, not a model or trim level. 

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    1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

    It's all in the semantics.  Different automakers use terms in different ways.   To me a convertible or coupe is a body style, not a model or trim level. 

    Body Style = Variant  imo

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    There seems to be a lot of wiggle room in what counts as it's own model and it generally changes depending on what makes the manufacturer look best.  When it is convenient, the models are all lumped together (3-series and 4-series sales numbers). When it is convenient, they separate them out. BMW saying "We have 96 different models... as long as you count the 320, 335, etc all separately. 

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    OK, Woke up to this email from Chevrolet, seems the count down clock on the new Mid-Engine Corvette is set and running now. 97 days, 15 hours till the reveal.

    7-18-19 is the new reveal date of a mid-engine Corvette.

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    It seems obvious that the styling is going to be beautiful.. but what I'm looking forward to is the tech, performance potential, needle move on interior, and sharing with Cadillac hopefully. I would also love to hear that this is going to not only be sold with a continuation of the FE C7 for a few more years, but also that there is an SUV coming as well. If Porsche, Ferrari, and Lambo can have one.. why can't Corvette. Corvette lovers be damned

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    11 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    It seems obvious that the styling is going to be beautiful.. but what I'm looking forward to is the tech, performance potential, needle move on interior, and sharing with Cadillac hopefully. I would also love to hear that this is going to not only be sold with a continuation of the FE C7 for a few more years, but also that there is an SUV coming as well. If Porsche, Ferrari, and Lambo can have one.. why can't Corvette. Corvette lovers be damned

    RIGHT! I totally agree that Corvette needs to have a performance CUV/SUV and this tech SHOULD be shared with Cadillac as part of their V Series.

    Other than the V Series, I think Cadillac should be the focus point for moving all things to EV as a true Tesla Destroyer and checkmate to the Germans.

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    2 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    RIGHT! I totally agree that Corvette needs to have a performance CUV/SUV and this tech SHOULD be shared with Cadillac as part of their V Series.

    Other than the V Series, I think Cadillac should be the focus point for moving all things to EV as a true Tesla Destroyer and checkmate to the Germans.

    Talk about profits. GM would effectively have 4 Luxury/Premium brands.. this time with purpose like back in the day when there was Cadillac, Olds, and Buick

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    Im soooooooo excited for this. 

    But part of me feels lost. I also do not  want the front engined formula to go away either.  (For the first year anyway, it wont)

    Therefore, I would prefer that Corvette does become its own brand or sub-brand or whatever you want to call it. 

    So Corvette could have several REAL models in its line-up.

    Because I dont see the GS and the base Stingray as two models. Nor do I see the Z06 and the ZR1 as two different models. Nor do I see the ZR1 being a different model than the Stingray.

    Slippery slope:

    The C6...

    The base Vette had a steel frame and the Z06 was an aluminium one.  The way I process and define models and trim levels, one could see this as 2 different models. But on the C7, all frames are aluminium...

    The way the C7 works for me is that its 1 model. It has two different body styles. (maybe 3?) Convertible, fixed roof and (targa top?)

    1 model to do battle with the 23 different trims of 911. 

    1 model to do battle with Porsche's other sportcars in the Vette's immediate competetion. The Cayman and Boxster. And those too also have a myriad of trims.

    1 model to do battle with very high end Ferraris, McLarens and Lamborghinis. 

    You could say that the Vette has 3 or 4 models to them, but that is not how it works. And even if you want to think it this way, it still doesnt change the fact that Corvette is ill equipped, model or trim size, to do battle with all its competitors successfully.  And what I mean by successfully is to hand them their ass, each and very time. 

    I dont want to hear the phrase "for the money" anymore. It was a good measure 20 years ago. But 20 years ago, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini did not have a plethora of models and trims on their sportscars. Even Mclaren 20 years ago was just 1 car. McLaren has grown and soon they too will even offer a true GT car. 

     

    The Vette, with 1 model has to be a pure track car, a pure daily driver, a pure exotic super(hyper) car. And elitists wont even admit to it that the ZR1 is such a thing because price, or the engine is not in the right place (not mid-engined) or whatever ridiculous excuse they come up with...

    With the C8 coming, and the C7 will be sold alongside, then and only then would the Vette be 2 models. And THAT opens up the Pandora's box. 

    When the C8 arrives, it will be a supercar. For realz. When the top dog mid-engined C8 arrives, the Z06 or ZR1 C5 C6 C7 equivalent, then it will be a true hypercar. Hopefully a front engined RWD model is still offered, because the Corvette has also become a viable true blue GT car. And being a hardcore supercar with a mid-engined variant, than Corvette ceases to be a GT car. 

    Therefore, Corvette is ripe to expand to several models and hence becoming its own sub-brand, brand. 

    Like Casa said, the Camaro is already at Corvette levels of performance.  Obviously not at ZR1 levels. The ZR1 is basically at the limits of what a front engined RWD car can do. Corvette could add AWD to that and aid the situaition, but that also adds weight. Lessens the raw, sports car feel to it. Adding AWD just makes it more GT car than it already is...

    But at Z06 levels...The Camaro is at. Just a tad more tweaking is all that is needed...

    Corvette, to be really dominant, to shut North American Eurosnob mouthes, needs to expand its portfolio. Its competition did. Corvette needs to do the same. 

    And when I say North American eurosnob mouthes, yes...as it seems in Europe and the Middle East, the Corvette has finally gotten the respect it deserves. Even in Germany. When the mid-engined C8 arrives, even more so. 

    And, even if the Corvette purists in North America will NOT accept a mid-engined Vette or an expanded brand line, in Europe and in the Middle East and in Asia, those markets are primed for the taking!!!

    Especially if electrified versions are in the pipeline...

     

     

     

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    5 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    I'd love to see a Corvette SUV with none other than the n/a 3.6. 

    If the Corvette was to have  CUV line.. yeah.. a n/a 3.6L would be a nice entry, but if its RWD it damn sure better have a V8. I will never understand the BS behind why Porsche and Audi get to have FWD based CUVs, market only the AWD part.. and no issues. Either way.. a Macan GTS literally only has a TT3.0L with 360hp/369lbs. I submit that if the Blazer RS had this same combo.. or an even better LGW with 404/400lb..it would out perform the Macan's 5 second 0-60

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    18 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    If the Corvette was to have  CUV line.. yeah.. a n/a 3.6L would be a nice entry, but if its RWD it damn sure better have a V8. I will never understand the BS behind why Porsche and Audi get to have FWD based CUVs, market only the AWD part.. and no issues. Either way.. a Macan GTS literally only has a TT3.0L with 360hp/369lbs. I submit that if the Blazer RS had this same combo.. or an even better LGW with 404/400lb..it would out perform the Macan's 5 second 0-60

    What Porsche CUV is FWD based?

     

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    25 minutes ago, frogger said:

    What Porsche CUV is FWD based?

     

    Slippery slope of VW/Audi platforms...

    Not exactly RWD based. Not exactly FWD based either. But definitely AWD. 

    Albeit the Macan's platform, the engine is longitude, not tranverse...which seems to be the defining signature of RWD based over FWD. 

    But what Casa seems to be saying, and what I said in my post about North American Eurosnobs, is that certain European manufacturers get a pass on certain no-nos that GM always gets their cheeks slapped...

    Case in point...

    The Macan, a Porsche...get a pass from offering a 4 cylinder in their CUV...

    2 things wrong here:

    Porsche is offering a:

    1. A small CUV

    2. In that small CUV, Porsche is offering a less than 250 horsepower and ironically, the same amount of ft.lbs of torque that CCAP's post deems to be lackluster. Albeit, I understand that the 4 cylinder in the Macan is turbocharged and therefore, the 273 ft.lbs of torque are probably more accessible at a lower RPM than the N/A 3.6 liter V6 from GM and THAT seems to be CCAP's beef with the N/A 3.6 liter from GM. 

     

    But...all that to say,  proof is in the pudding,  that had Corvette offered a N/A 3.6 liter V6 as a:

    44 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    a n/a 3.6L would be a nice entry

    AN ENTRY LEVEL ENGINE OFFERING, Corvette would be shat on by many...

    44 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    , but if its RWD it damn sure better have a V8

    But this being Corvette, a V8 would most definitely be in the cards...but alas, Corvette will not be a brand on its own, so all this is useless banter... 

    What is not useless, is the blatant hypocrisy that Corvette faces in the North American  market to actually be its own sub-brand/brand...

    Its got a huge up hill to climb for Corvette to be its own brand. A bigger mountain than what Porsche had to overcome.

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    24 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    2. In that small CUV, Porsche is offering a less than 250 horsepower and ironically, the same amount of ft.lbs of torque that CCAP's post deems to be lackluster. Albeit, I understand that the 4 cylinder in the Macan is turbocharged and therefore, the 273 ft.lbs of torque are probably more accessible at a lower RPM than the N/A 3.6 liter V6 from GM and THAT seems to be CCAP's beef with the N/A 3.6 liter from GM. 

    252hp

    1600rpm - 4500rpm is their peak torque plateau.

    Don't forget these are German horsepowers. Have they ever not underrated them? 

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    16 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    252hp

    1600rpm - 4500rpm is their peak torque plateau.

    Don't forget these are German horsepowers. Have they ever not underrated them? 

    You proved my point...

    44 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

    the blatant hypocrisy that Corvette faces in the North American  market to actually be its own sub-brand/brand...

    You could back hand insult Corvette and that is OK.

    But as soon as somebody dare says someting negative on Porsche...you defend Porsche...

    https://www.porsche.com/canada/en/models/macan/macan-models/macan/

    248 horsepower...Porsche's website...

    Regardless if underrated...250-260...its certainly not over that...

    Regardless...that meager amount of HP is supposedly enough for it to be a Porsche? 

    But you will defend ANY thing negative said about Porsche, even it true...

    But...you will insult..and demean Corvette...on an issue that wont even be a thing in the near future, nor in the long future...

    1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

    I'd love to see a Corvette SUV with none other than the n/a 3.6. 

    Like I said...

    YOU TROLL!!!

    Are you gonna go with the "its your opinion" angle this time around too? 

    So...will @Drew Dowdell lock this one up too? 

    Will I be the villain again for pointing out what it is that YOU do? 

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    Just now, Drew Dowdell said:

    Could you two juys ignore each other please? @ccap41was making a joke.

    Yeah...a joke...we will call it that.

    17 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

    252hp

    1600rpm - 4500rpm is their peak torque plateau.

    Don't forget these are German horsepowers. Have they ever not underrated them? 

    Yet...

    I state FACT...not fiction on a CUV that will NEVER exist...

    HE pounces on FACT that I stated to which I had to post a phoquing link to...

    Yeah...we will call it a joke...not trolling @Cmicasa the Great because he is a GM nut...knowing that might tick him off...especially when Casa posted his view on the 3.6 liter V6 on the other thread...

    Sure Drew...

    Like I said...

    Im the villain...

     

     

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    7 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

    Could you two juys ignore each other please? @ccap41was making a joke.

    Sorry, I thought responding about the Macan was being civil.. I definitely wan't looking for a rant as a response. I thought we were just talkin' automobiles. 

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    1 hour ago, ccap41 said:

    I'd love to see a Corvette SUV with none other than the n/a 3.6. 

    Would be fine as a base engine if it had a kick ass transmission like a PDK tuned for it., but to me Corvette has always been about the v8.  I would rather Cadillac had a transverse engine CUV platform with smaller engines and Corvette had v8 versions of it if they go the CUV route.

     

     

     

     

     

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    IMO, if they want to target the performance/luxury market with a Corvette branded SUV I think their 3.0TT would be a great base engine and then the 4.2TT as the top engine. This is a performance-first brand, in my theoretical eyes. 

    Looking at a Corvette, the base model is 455hp so 400hp/tq shouldn't sound too outrageous as a base for a Corvette-branded SUV. 

    If they're just going to make any GM CUV but with a V8 then there's no point in giving Corvette its own legit brand. It would just be another badge-job. I understand it would theoretically come from an in-house-already chassis.

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    All brands PERIOD should be tagged equally for calling a premium lux or performance brand with pathetic 4 banger or 6 banger engines as crap. I do agree that it is amazing how many will attack an American brand for a certain image and not the Euro or Asian for the same pathetic small engine in what is supposed to be performance or luxury.

    Reminds me of throwing stones in glass houses.

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    6 hours ago, frogger said:

    What Porsche CUV is FWD based?

     

    The Macan is AWD, but is still technically sitting on a FWD derived platform.  Is on the same system platform as the Audi A5,A4,A6,A7,A8 , and Q5

    IN ADDITION:

    Personally it never mattered to me in the CUV class whether it was FWD or RWD.. as long as its AWD, especially since the advent of adaptive or selective AWD systems. With the truest issue one could come up with pertains to disadvantages of FWD being that the weight distribution was front biased and thus created inferior handing versus a RWD vehicle, which was typically more balanced.

    All the RIGHTWD stuff aside.. when that notion comes into play.. I find it interesting that a Macan has a weight distribution of 57.2%/42.8% (F/R) while say.. the weight distribution on the Blazer RS AWD is F/R(59/41%) or say a 2017 BMW X5 X35i at F/R(49/51%) They are off.. but not that far off.

    Blazer RS performing the figure 8:

    in 27.1 sec @ 0.65 g (avg) and Lateral g at .83g 

    vs an X5 at 26.8 sec @ 0.69 g (avg) and lateral g .81

    I'm not saying its better.. but I am saying that it in no way do these vehicles deserve the label of being inferior due to being FWD based

     

     

     

     

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    24 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    All brands PERIOD should be tagged equally for calling a premium lux or performance brand with pathetic 4 banger or 6 banger engines as crap. I do agree that it is amazing how many will attack an American brand for a certain image and not the Euro or Asian for the same pathetic small engine in what is supposed to be performance or luxury.

    Reminds me of throwing stones in glass houses.

    But AMERICANS do it.. they hate themselves.. and will by majority these days let the Foreign makers get away with a litany of offenses that they would demand GM or Ford be put out of business for. Imagine GM being caught up in an Emissions scandal with the type of blatant deception VW pulled off.. 

    The Macan starts off with a 248HP 4cyl engine for $50K. The Cadillac XT5 has a 310HP V6 and starts at $41K. How is that even cool? Even if U drop back to the XT4, it only has 11 less HP and starts off at $35K.. and I seriously don't see Porsche as a luxury Cadillac competitor. That's Audi.  I do see it as Sport Corvette competitor. GM needs to jump in that portion of the game.. with both brands

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    5 hours ago, ccap41 said:

    Sorry, I thought responding about the Macan was being civil.. I definitely wan't looking for a rant as a response. I thought we were just talkin' automobiles. 

    It's something in the water...I almost never see your responses as less than sane and civil. 

    You are always civil and decent...

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    I have a question: why should the Corvette be a separate division within GM?

    In a time when many brands are altering themselves to be just profitable and lack a unique selling point, there really is no reason to convert the Corvette into what Porsche is: a separate division within an automaker that has an increasingly weak USP.  I do not think that Porsche should have pursued the CUV market at all; leave it to Audi for that.  A Corvette is special; there is no reason to turn it into the next Pontiac between 1990 and 2008.

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    13 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

    I have a question: why should the Corvette be a separate division within GM?

    In a time when many brands are altering themselves to be just profitable and lack a unique selling point, there really is no reason to convert the Corvette into what Porsche is: a separate division within an automaker that has an increasingly weak USP.  I do not think that Porsche should have pursued the CUV market at all; leave it to Audi for that.  A Corvette is special; there is no reason to turn it into the next Pontiac between 1990 and 2008.

    Simple, to me I say leave Corvette in Chevrolet, but offer Corvette CUV/SUV V8 options. Currently there is no real performance CUV/SUV at Chevy. Corvette is the ultimate performance auto, so why not have a Corvette performance series of vehicles and leave everything else the way it is. Last performance SUV was my Trailblazer SS 6.0L V8 AWD, bloody fast and fun to drive, Chevy has nothing right now to replace it unless you move up to the Heavy RST Tahoe.

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    @riviera74

    A lotta people will hate me for saying this, but this seems like the perfect opportunity for GM to cut ties between Chevy and the Corvette. Its actually time for this to go its separate way and be sold outta of a Corvette only store or a Cadillac store IF Cadillac is not getting its own version. Heck, even if it is. As a Corvette owner since the 1990s (’79 L82, ’95, ’00 Z51, ’08 Z51, ’14 Z51, ’16 Z06) and a Cadillac owner since ’05 (’05 STS4.6L, ’09 CTS-V, ’12 CTS-V Coupe, ’16 CTS-V) I can honestly say that one gets nowhere near the treatment at a Chevy dealership as U get from a Caddy or BMW, for that matter, one. Corvette is a sports/luxury brand. Its as simple as that. $60-130K says it all. In fact, at this point it is actually more expense than any Cadillac on the top end. Luxury car owners need more.

    That being said.. I think and wish the C7 continued production. To actually help populate a Corvette Brand. It already is a sub-brand and should get full fledged status. We currently have Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1. A mid-engined and CUV would complete the brand and make it full on a Porsche competitor as Zora saw it. Furthermore the Camaro has all the chops to take the Vette’s place in the Chevy line-up.

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    1 hour ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    @riviera74

    A lotta people will hate me for saying this, but this seems like the perfect opportunity for GM to cut ties between Chevy and the Corvette. Its actually time for this to go its separate way and be sold outta of a Corvette only store or a Cadillac store IF Cadillac is not getting its own version. Heck, even if it is. As a Corvette owner since the 1990s (’79 L82, ’95, ’00 Z51, ’08 Z51, ’14 Z51, ’16 Z06) and a Cadillac owner since ’05 (’05 STS4.6L, ’09 CTS-V, ’12 CTS-V Coupe, ’16 CTS-V) I can honestly say that one gets nowhere near the treatment at a Chevy dealership as U get from a Caddy or BMW, for that matter, one. Corvette is a sports/luxury brand. Its as simple as that. $60-130K says it all. In fact, at this point it is actually more expense than any Cadillac on the top end. Luxury car owners need more.

    That being said.. I think and wish the C7 continued production. To actually help populate a Corvette Brand. It already is a sub-brand and should get full fledged status. We currently have Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1. A mid-engined and CUV would complete the brand and make it full on a Porsche competitor as Zora saw it. Furthermore the Camaro has all the chops to take the Vette’s place in the Chevy line-up.

    Yet you know Chevrolet will never let the Corvette go away even though they have Camaro.

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    14 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    @riviera74

    A lotta people will hate me for saying this, but this seems like the perfect opportunity for GM to cut ties between Chevy and the Corvette. Its actually time for this to go its separate way and be sold outta of a Corvette only store or a Cadillac store IF Cadillac is not getting its own version. Heck, even if it is. As a Corvette owner since the 1990s (’79 L82, ’95, ’00 Z51, ’08 Z51, ’14 Z51, ’16 Z06) and a Cadillac owner since ’05 (’05 STS4.6L, ’09 CTS-V, ’12 CTS-V Coupe, ’16 CTS-V) I can honestly say that one gets nowhere near the treatment at a Chevy dealership as U get from a Caddy or BMW, for that matter, one. Corvette is a sports/luxury brand. Its as simple as that. $60-130K says it all. In fact, at this point it is actually more expense than any Cadillac on the top end. Luxury car owners need more.

    That being said.. I think and wish the C7 continued production. To actually help populate a Corvette Brand. It already is a sub-brand and should get full fledged status. We currently have Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1. A mid-engined and CUV would complete the brand and make it full on a Porsche competitor as Zora saw it. Furthermore the Camaro has all the chops to take the Vette’s place in the Chevy line-up.

    I agree with most of what you said, especially when it comes to the dealership experience.  I am concerned that the Vette may end up with an identity problem sometime in the future if Corvette were a separate division.  GM has four divisions now; it was not that long ago that it had as many as nine.  BK forced the required pruning down to where it is now. 

    Does Corvette deserve to be a separate division with its own dealer network of about 500 dealers?  I would say yes.  But as a separate division, Corvette would need great leadership and vision to prevent what happened to Pontiac in the 25 years before BK.

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    21 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

    @riviera74

    A lotta people will hate me for saying this, but this seems like the perfect opportunity for GM to cut ties between Chevy and the Corvette. Its actually time for this to go its separate way and be sold outta of a Corvette only store or a Cadillac store IF Cadillac is not getting its own version. Heck, even if it is. As a Corvette owner since the 1990s (’79 L82, ’95, ’00 Z51, ’08 Z51, ’14 Z51, ’16 Z06) and a Cadillac owner since ’05 (’05 STS4.6L, ’09 CTS-V, ’12 CTS-V Coupe, ’16 CTS-V) I can honestly say that one gets nowhere near the treatment at a Chevy dealership as U get from a Caddy or BMW, for that matter, one. Corvette is a sports/luxury brand. Its as simple as that. $60-130K says it all. In fact, at this point it is actually more expense than any Cadillac on the top end. Luxury car owners need more.

    That being said.. I think and wish the C7 continued production. To actually help populate a Corvette Brand. It already is a sub-brand and should get full fledged status. We currently have Stingray, Grand Sport, Z06, and ZR1. A mid-engined and CUV would complete the brand and make it full on a Porsche competitor as Zora saw it. Furthermore the Camaro has all the chops to take the Vette’s place in the Chevy line-up.

     

    6 hours ago, riviera74 said:

    I agree with most of what you said, especially when it comes to the dealership experience.  I am concerned that the Vette may end up with an identity problem sometime in the future if Corvette were a separate division.  GM has four divisions now; it was not that long ago that it had as many as nine.  BK forced the required pruning down to where it is now. 

    Does Corvette deserve to be a separate division with its own dealer network of about 500 dealers?  I would say yes.  But as a separate division, Corvette would need great leadership and vision to prevent what happened to Pontiac in the 25 years before BK.

    While agree with most of what you both say, I actually take a different spin on this using a perfect example as follows:

    In the Greater Pacific Northwest, that covers Oregon and Washington state, there used to be a high end Audio / Video dealer called Magnolia HiFi. They only sold top end gear, always had separate rooms setup so that those that want to experience high quality / high priced gear could try it out, then buy and schedule up installation and configuration on site.

    Magnolia HiFi was founded in 1954 and had 13 top end stores across the PNW. The children were not interested in Audio/Video as their dad, so on Dec 18th 2000 with Revenues topping $100 million a year, Best Buy stepped up and purchased them for $87 Million giving the children a pay day as the father retired.

    Now Why do I bring this up?

    Best buy then opened in every store across North America the Boutique Magnolia store within a store. To this day, Best Buy still has great high end gear / sales due to taking the concept of Magnolia and spreading it across the country in every store they have and making sure that that store inside their store is still the best experience ever.

    This is what I believe GM needs to do with Corvette. Corvette needs to be a Boutique inside of the Chevrolet dealerships that only sells V8 Powered and Electric Powered cars, SUV/CUVs and Trucks. These should ONLY  be top of the line best powered performance auto's.

    The benefit here is that Cheverolet can whore out the rest of the history with entry level to so called SS visual packaged auto's with a bit more power, but when people who do not want the mid level or luxury level names such as GMC, Buick or Cadillac, they step into the Boutique store for a Corvette powered auto.

    That is who I see GM maximizing the Corvette without creating another division or group that has to be separate from the existing company divisions.

    In fact, GM needs to figure out the best way and they might have already by just having all GMC / Buick dealerships be a required merged dealership. Is there any more sepereate GMC or Buick sites? I have not seen any in a long time. GM needs to improve marketing for all name brands covering the full product line and not just spend it all on 1 name plate for a few years till another product gets updated and then shift focus.

    They need Family Coverage Marketing.

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      A combination of brake types is used on ID.4. It features disc brakes on the front wheels and drum brakes on the rear—the difference being specific to electric vehicle needs. As EVs rely on regenerative braking, disc brakes on the rear can be less effective than drums after long periods of not being put to heavy use.
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      Like the platform, the design of ID.4 represents a move towards the future with a nod to the past. At the front, the Volkswagen logo is able to be positioned centrally because there is no radiator grille, as it was on the Beetle. Large LED headlights flow backwards, hinting at the aerodynamic nature of the car, while a sculpted front bumper with large intake-like scoops and honeycomb accents give the car a powerful presence. Models fitted with the Statement package add an illuminated Volkswagen logo and an illuminated light line that stretches outward from it, creating a striking light signature.
      Front to back, clean, flowing lines alternate with crisp edges for a refined, yet futuristic look. A softly molded side section curves under the crisp rising shoulder line and flush illuminated door handles. The low greenhouse runs out into a strong C-pillar—a classic Volkswagen design feature—and into a long spoiler. The ID.4’s aerodynamically refined exterior helps it achieve an excellent drag coefficient of 0.28.
      The ID.4 sits squarely in the middle of the compact SUV segment, size-wise. It is 4.6 inches shorter than the Volkswagen Tiguan, at 180.5 inches, with a 0.9 inch shorter wheelbase at 108.9 inches. It is 1.9 inches lower than Tiguan at 64.4 inches high for the rear-wheel drive model, and 0.5 inches wider, at 72.9 inches.
      The ID.4 will available in six exterior colors—Glacier White Metallic, Mythos Black Metallic, Moonstone Grey, Scale Silver Metallic, Blue Dusk Metallic and King’s Red Metallic. All models come with a body color roof, black roof rails, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The Statement package adds a panoramic fixed-glass roof, premium LED projector headlights with Volkswagen’s Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) and power-folding side mirrors with puddle lamp signature, while the Gradient package (sold on top of the Statement package) upgrades to 20-inch wheels, black roof, and silver roof rails and accents.
      Interior
      Volkswagen’s first fully-electric SUV features ample space and a modern design. Passenger volume is similar to the Tiguan despite the overall smaller footprint, with 99.9 cubic feet total. Legroom is a comfortable 41.1 inches for front passengers and 37.6 inches in the rear seat. Cargo volume is 30.3 cubic feet behind the second row, and 64.2 cubic feet with the seats folded.
      The interior of the ID.4 mirrors the futuristic look of the exterior, with functionality almost completely controlled by touch or voice control. The 5.3-inch ID.Cockpit (digital driver display) replaces the traditional instrument cluster and is operated with touch-sensitive controls on the leather-wrapped multifunction heated steering wheel. Three tiles show the most important information, with the display for battery status and range underneath. The traditional gearshift is replaced by a large rocker switch on the right of the ID.Cockpit, and a control panel to the left of the steering wheel integrates the lighting functions, including automatic headlights.
      A 10-inch Discover Pro touch infotainment display is located in the middle of the dash panel, angled slightly towards the driver. This screen can be configured to driver preference, and manages the standard navigation system, all telematics, entertainment, driver-assistance systems and vehicle settings; it is upgraded to a 12-inch Discover Pro Max infotainment display with the Statement package. Menus can be moved using gesture control, simply swiping one’s hand in front of the screen. Sliders for volume and temperature adjustment are located on the inclined surface below the display.
      “Hello ID.” natural voice control is standard in the ID.4. The car follows the instructions spoken by the driver and passengers and is capable of understanding many commands from everyday language, such as “Hello ID., I’m cold” to turn up the heat.
      The ID.4 will feature ID. Light—a light strip below the windshield to support drivers in a host of situations with intuitive lighting effects in different colors and sound prompts. For example, ID. Light signals to the driver that the vehicle’s drive system is active and that the car has been unlocked or locked. It accentuates information issued by some of the driver-assistance and navigation systems and signals, both visually and acoustically, details like charge status indicator, braking prompts and incoming phone calls.
      The steering wheel, steering column, and the housings for the display and control panels in the doors are finished in Piano Black. Seats in the ID.4 are finished in black cloth on entry models and Lunar Gray or Galaxy Black leatherette on models with the Statement package. Entry ID.4 models feature six-way adjustable seats with power recline, while the Statement package adds 12-way power seats, with massage lumbar and memory, as well as 30-color ambient lighting.
      ID.4 offers a range of comfort and convenience features found throughout the rest of the brand’s lineup. Standard features include rain-sensing wipers, auto-dimming rearview mirror, dual-zone Climatronic® climate control, and KESSY® keyless access. To manage cold temperatures, the ID.4 features a standard heated steering wheel, heated side mirrors and washer nozzles, and, on all-wheel-drive models, a heated windshield. The Statement package adds SiriusXM® satellite radio with a three-month trial, an adjustable trunk floor, and a power tailgate with Easy Open & Close.
      To complete the high-tech package, ID.4 offers standard wireless mobile charging, wireless App-Connect, and Volkswagen Car-Net® with in-car WiFi capability when you subscribe to a data plan. Car-Net Hotspot allows passengers to access the internet with up to four connected devices simultaneously, including tablets, smartphones, laptops, gaming devices, and more—all at 4G LTE-enabled speed.
      Safety & Driver Assistance Technology
      To help protect occupants, the ID.4 provides a combination of both passive and active safety systems. It features six airbags as standard—front and side airbags for front passengers, and side curtain airbags for outboard seating positions. Additionally there are a number of electronic safety systems, such as an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) and Electronic Stability Control (ESC).
      With regards to the battery, an extruded aluminum frame protects the battery system against damage in the event of a crash, and a replaceable aluminum underbody panel protects the battery against the road. Additionally, the battery is also disabled if the vehicle is involved in a serious accident.
      With the standard IQ.DRIVE® advanced driver assistance technology, all ID.4 models include Forward Collision Warning and Autonomous Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Monitoring (Front Assist); Blind Spot Monitor (Side Assist); Rear Traffic Alert; Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC); Lane Keeping System (Lane Assist); Travel Assist; and Emergency Assist. In addition to IQ.DRIVE features, the ID.4 includes Dynamic Road Sign Display; Park Distance Control; and High Beam Control (Light Assist).
      Pricing & Sales
      Pricing for the ID.4 starts at $39,995, for the rear-wheel-drive ID.4 Pro (available in the first quarter of 2021), before a potential Federal tax credit of up to $7,500 is applied. With those credits, the entry price of ID.4 is on par with the 2021 Tiguan SEL.  For highly qualified customers through Volkswagen Credit, the monthly lease payment for a 36-month lease with 10,000 miles a year, is $379 per month with $3,579 due at signing, excluding tax, title, license, options and dealer fees.
      Starting later in 2021, the ID.4 AWD Pro ($43,695) will be available. Both Pro models carry largely the same equipment, with AWD models putting out 302 hp, and adding a heated windshield and tow hitch. These models can be additionally outfitted with two packages—Statement ($4,500), and Gradient ($1,500), which is only offered with Statement.
      The ID.4 launches with a limited-run ID.4 1st Edition (MSRP $43,995). The 1st Edition models feature the same content as the Pro model, and Statement package (minus illuminated VW logo) and Gradient package come standard. These models also include unique features including accelerator and brake pedals with “play” and “pause” logos, the steering wheel and column, radio bezel and door island finished in Electric White, 1st Edition badging, black mirror caps, and a tow hitch.
      Volkswagen plans to offer the ID.4 electric vehicle across all 50 states, and throughout its network of more than 600 dealers. A reservation platform debuts today on VW.com, allowing customers to reserve an ID.4 before it hits dealer showrooms, with a fully refundable $100 reservation fee. As vehicle production starts, reservation holders will be invited to confirm their order with an additional fully refundable $400 vehicle deposit. From placing a reservation, to production and through delivery, the customer can see where they stand and when they can expect their ID. 4 to arrive at their preferred local VW dealer in a simple, transparent process. At that time, the customer can transact with their dealer and complete their purchase.

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    • By William Maley
      Volkswagen's electric car offensive has already started in Europe with the ID.3. The next step is taking on the U.S. with the next electric vehicle, the ID.4 introduced today.
      The ID.4 looks very close to the concept that was first shown back in 2017 with such details as the VW logo smack dab in the middle with a light bar running across; wide air dam for the front,  flowing lines, and a full-length lightbar at the rear. In terms of size, the ID.4 is about 4.6 inches shorter, 1.9 inches lower, and 0.5 inches wider than the Tiguan sold in the U.S. No word on weight.
      For the interior, Volkswagen went minimalist. The driver faces 5.3-inch digital display and is able to change gear via a knob on the right side of bezel - similar to the BMW i3. Either a 10 or 12-inch touchscreen display handles the infotainment duties. Interior space is quite generous with 99.9 cubic feet of passenger space and 30.3 cubic feet of cargo space.
      At launch, the ID.4 will only be available with a single electric motor mounted on the rear axle providing 201 horsepower and 228 pound-feet of torque. An 82-kilowatt-hour lithium-ion battery pack provides the juice. Range is estimated at 250 miles. A dual-motor version with 302 horsepower and all-wheel drive will come out sometime next year.
      For charging, Volkswagen says that on a Level Two charger, the ID.4 takes around 7.5 hours from an empty battery. If you can find a DC fast charger, the recharge time drops significantly: Volkswagen claims that the battery can reach an 80% charge in 38 minutes.
      Pricing for the ID.4 will begin at $39,995 for the base Pro when it arrives at dealers at the end of the year. No mention on destination. But Volkswagen is planning to drop the price of the ID.4 once production begins at the Chattanooga Assembly Plant in Tennessee.
       
      Source: Volkswagen
      Press Release is on Page 2


      Volkswagen unveils the all-new 2021 ID.4 electric SUV
      Sep 23, 2020
      Reservations for the ID.4 start online today with 50-state launch in early 2021 MSRP starts at $39,995 for ID.4 Pro before potential $7,500 Federal tax credit Estimated 250 miles of range on ID.4 1st Edition Compact SUV will be available in rear-wheel drive 201-hp 82 kWh (launching first) and all-wheel-drive 302-hp 82 kWh configurations Three years of fast charging with Electrify America at no additional cost Modern design pairs with high-tech features, like DRIVE® advanced driver assistance technology and a smart infotainment system, using voice and touch Localized production in Chattanooga, starting in 2022 with anticipated MSRP around $35,000 Herndon, VA — Volkswagen of America, Inc. revealed the all-new ID.4 electric SUV today—the brand’s first long-range EV to be sold stateside. This compact SUV will offer all the best features of Volkswagen’s current lineup—hallmark driving dynamics, bold design, and advanced technology—along with long-range EV capability and three years of fast charging with Electrify America for no additional cost, to customers in the largest segment in the U.S., all with a price point aimed at the heart of the segment.
      “The ID.4 was engineered, loaded and priced to win the hearts of SUV owners who are simply ready to go electric—and fall in love with Volkswagen again,” said Scott Keogh, CEO, Volkswagen Group of America. “It drives like a GTI, it has the packaging of a Tiguan and the purpose of the Beetle. All the best things about VW in one package.”
      Powertrain & Charging
      The ID.4 electric compact SUV is based on the modular electric drive architecture (MEB). While it is the brand’s newest platform, it also represents a return to Volkswagen’s roots, with the electric motor located at the rear, just like the original Beetle.
      The heart of the ID.4 is a battery pack comprised of 288 pouch cells in 12 modules, positioned in the underbody to create a low center of gravity for optimal driving dynamics as well as extremely well-balanced weight distribution. It is housed in a lightweight aluminum structure that is bolted to the frame, helping to improve rigidity.
      At launch, the vehicle will be offered with an 82kWh (gross) battery and a rear-mounted AC permanent-magnet synchronous motor with 201 horsepower and 228 pound-feet of torque. Volkswagen estimates that the ID.4 82kWh RWD 1st Edition models will have a range of 250 miles with a full charge on the EPA cycle. A powerful, electric all-wheel-drive variant with 302 hp will follow later in 2021.
      The ID.4 also comes with three years of fast charging with Electrify America at no additional cost, helping to reduce range anxiety. The ID.4 can be charged with both alternating current (AC) and direct current (DC) fast-charging capability. The 11 kW onboard charger allows the ID.4 to charge the battery 33 miles in about one hour, and charges to full in around seven and a half hours at a home or public Level 2 charger. At a DC fast-charging station, with 125 kW charging, the ID.4 can go from five to 80 percent charged in about 38 minutes.
      Chassis
      The ID.4 is designed to be strong, yet agile. The chassis and body are made from steel. The front suspension is a strut-type with lower control arms, coil springs, telescopic dampers and anti-roll bar. In the rear, the ID.4 uses a multi-link rear axle with coil springs, telescopic dampers and an anti-roll bar. With 3.5 turns lock-to-lock and a stellar curb-to-curb turning radius of 33.5 feet, the ID.4 feels nimble, especially among other compact SUVs.
      A combination of brake types is used on ID.4. It features disc brakes on the front wheels and drum brakes on the rear—the difference being specific to electric vehicle needs. As EVs rely on regenerative braking, disc brakes on the rear can be less effective than drums after long periods of not being put to heavy use.
      Exterior
      Like the platform, the design of ID.4 represents a move towards the future with a nod to the past. At the front, the Volkswagen logo is able to be positioned centrally because there is no radiator grille, as it was on the Beetle. Large LED headlights flow backwards, hinting at the aerodynamic nature of the car, while a sculpted front bumper with large intake-like scoops and honeycomb accents give the car a powerful presence. Models fitted with the Statement package add an illuminated Volkswagen logo and an illuminated light line that stretches outward from it, creating a striking light signature.
      Front to back, clean, flowing lines alternate with crisp edges for a refined, yet futuristic look. A softly molded side section curves under the crisp rising shoulder line and flush illuminated door handles. The low greenhouse runs out into a strong C-pillar—a classic Volkswagen design feature—and into a long spoiler. The ID.4’s aerodynamically refined exterior helps it achieve an excellent drag coefficient of 0.28.
      The ID.4 sits squarely in the middle of the compact SUV segment, size-wise. It is 4.6 inches shorter than the Volkswagen Tiguan, at 180.5 inches, with a 0.9 inch shorter wheelbase at 108.9 inches. It is 1.9 inches lower than Tiguan at 64.4 inches high for the rear-wheel drive model, and 0.5 inches wider, at 72.9 inches.
      The ID.4 will available in six exterior colors—Glacier White Metallic, Mythos Black Metallic, Moonstone Grey, Scale Silver Metallic, Blue Dusk Metallic and King’s Red Metallic. All models come with a body color roof, black roof rails, and 19-inch aluminum alloy wheels. The Statement package adds a panoramic fixed-glass roof, premium LED projector headlights with Volkswagen’s Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) and power-folding side mirrors with puddle lamp signature, while the Gradient package (sold on top of the Statement package) upgrades to 20-inch wheels, black roof, and silver roof rails and accents.
      Interior
      Volkswagen’s first fully-electric SUV features ample space and a modern design. Passenger volume is similar to the Tiguan despite the overall smaller footprint, with 99.9 cubic feet total. Legroom is a comfortable 41.1 inches for front passengers and 37.6 inches in the rear seat. Cargo volume is 30.3 cubic feet behind the second row, and 64.2 cubic feet with the seats folded.
      The interior of the ID.4 mirrors the futuristic look of the exterior, with functionality almost completely controlled by touch or voice control. The 5.3-inch ID.Cockpit (digital driver display) replaces the traditional instrument cluster and is operated with touch-sensitive controls on the leather-wrapped multifunction heated steering wheel. Three tiles show the most important information, with the display for battery status and range underneath. The traditional gearshift is replaced by a large rocker switch on the right of the ID.Cockpit, and a control panel to the left of the steering wheel integrates the lighting functions, including automatic headlights.
      A 10-inch Discover Pro touch infotainment display is located in the middle of the dash panel, angled slightly towards the driver. This screen can be configured to driver preference, and manages the standard navigation system, all telematics, entertainment, driver-assistance systems and vehicle settings; it is upgraded to a 12-inch Discover Pro Max infotainment display with the Statement package. Menus can be moved using gesture control, simply swiping one’s hand in front of the screen. Sliders for volume and temperature adjustment are located on the inclined surface below the display.
      “Hello ID.” natural voice control is standard in the ID.4. The car follows the instructions spoken by the driver and passengers and is capable of understanding many commands from everyday language, such as “Hello ID., I’m cold” to turn up the heat.
      The ID.4 will feature ID. Light—a light strip below the windshield to support drivers in a host of situations with intuitive lighting effects in different colors and sound prompts. For example, ID. Light signals to the driver that the vehicle’s drive system is active and that the car has been unlocked or locked. It accentuates information issued by some of the driver-assistance and navigation systems and signals, both visually and acoustically, details like charge status indicator, braking prompts and incoming phone calls.
      The steering wheel, steering column, and the housings for the display and control panels in the doors are finished in Piano Black. Seats in the ID.4 are finished in black cloth on entry models and Lunar Gray or Galaxy Black leatherette on models with the Statement package. Entry ID.4 models feature six-way adjustable seats with power recline, while the Statement package adds 12-way power seats, with massage lumbar and memory, as well as 30-color ambient lighting.
      ID.4 offers a range of comfort and convenience features found throughout the rest of the brand’s lineup. Standard features include rain-sensing wipers, auto-dimming rearview mirror, dual-zone Climatronic® climate control, and KESSY® keyless access. To manage cold temperatures, the ID.4 features a standard heated steering wheel, heated side mirrors and washer nozzles, and, on all-wheel-drive models, a heated windshield. The Statement package adds SiriusXM® satellite radio with a three-month trial, an adjustable trunk floor, and a power tailgate with Easy Open & Close.
      To complete the high-tech package, ID.4 offers standard wireless mobile charging, wireless App-Connect, and Volkswagen Car-Net® with in-car WiFi capability when you subscribe to a data plan. Car-Net Hotspot allows passengers to access the internet with up to four connected devices simultaneously, including tablets, smartphones, laptops, gaming devices, and more—all at 4G LTE-enabled speed.
      Safety & Driver Assistance Technology
      To help protect occupants, the ID.4 provides a combination of both passive and active safety systems. It features six airbags as standard—front and side airbags for front passengers, and side curtain airbags for outboard seating positions. Additionally there are a number of electronic safety systems, such as an Anti-lock Braking System (ABS) and Electronic Stability Control (ESC).
      With regards to the battery, an extruded aluminum frame protects the battery system against damage in the event of a crash, and a replaceable aluminum underbody panel protects the battery against the road. Additionally, the battery is also disabled if the vehicle is involved in a serious accident.
      With the standard IQ.DRIVE® advanced driver assistance technology, all ID.4 models include Forward Collision Warning and Autonomous Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Monitoring (Front Assist); Blind Spot Monitor (Side Assist); Rear Traffic Alert; Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC); Lane Keeping System (Lane Assist); Travel Assist; and Emergency Assist. In addition to IQ.DRIVE features, the ID.4 includes Dynamic Road Sign Display; Park Distance Control; and High Beam Control (Light Assist).
      Pricing & Sales
      Pricing for the ID.4 starts at $39,995, for the rear-wheel-drive ID.4 Pro (available in the first quarter of 2021), before a potential Federal tax credit of up to $7,500 is applied. With those credits, the entry price of ID.4 is on par with the 2021 Tiguan SEL.  For highly qualified customers through Volkswagen Credit, the monthly lease payment for a 36-month lease with 10,000 miles a year, is $379 per month with $3,579 due at signing, excluding tax, title, license, options and dealer fees.
      Starting later in 2021, the ID.4 AWD Pro ($43,695) will be available. Both Pro models carry largely the same equipment, with AWD models putting out 302 hp, and adding a heated windshield and tow hitch. These models can be additionally outfitted with two packages—Statement ($4,500), and Gradient ($1,500), which is only offered with Statement.
      The ID.4 launches with a limited-run ID.4 1st Edition (MSRP $43,995). The 1st Edition models feature the same content as the Pro model, and Statement package (minus illuminated VW logo) and Gradient package come standard. These models also include unique features including accelerator and brake pedals with “play” and “pause” logos, the steering wheel and column, radio bezel and door island finished in Electric White, 1st Edition badging, black mirror caps, and a tow hitch.
      Volkswagen plans to offer the ID.4 electric vehicle across all 50 states, and throughout its network of more than 600 dealers. A reservation platform debuts today on VW.com, allowing customers to reserve an ID.4 before it hits dealer showrooms, with a fully refundable $100 reservation fee. As vehicle production starts, reservation holders will be invited to confirm their order with an additional fully refundable $400 vehicle deposit. From placing a reservation, to production and through delivery, the customer can see where they stand and when they can expect their ID. 4 to arrive at their preferred local VW dealer in a simple, transparent process. At that time, the customer can transact with their dealer and complete their purchase.
    • By William Maley
      The Jeep Wrangler is going green with the introduction of the 4xe.
      This plug-in hybrid version of the Wrangler pairs a 2.0L turbo-four with a transmission-mounted electric motor. Total output is 375 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque, making this the powerful production Wrangler to date. A 17.0-kWh, liquid-cooled battery pack battery pack mounted under the rear-seat provides the electric juice and allows the 4xe to travel up 25 miles on electric power only. The transmission is an eight-speed automatic. Jeep hasn't revealed how long it takes to charge up the 4xe.
      Before you start thinking that going plug-in hybrid lessens the capability, Jeep says the 4xe models come with Dana 44 axles front and rear, and the various electronics have been waterproofed - allowing it to ford up to 30 inches of water. Base and Sahara models come with a two-speed transfer case with automatic four-wheel-drive mode and a 2.72:1 low-range. Rubicon models feature a transfer case with a 4:1 low-range, electronic locking front and rear axles with a 4.1:1 ratio, and an electronic sway bar disconnect.
      The 4xe does give up cargo space, with 27.7 cubic feet behind the rear seats (down four) and 67.4 with the rear seats folded (down five). It is also heavier with the base model coming at 5,000 pounds - about 800 pounds heavier than the gas model. 
      Jeep will begin selling the Wrangler 4xe early next year in the three trims mentioned above. You'll only be able to get it in the four-door version. Expecting pricing to be above $30,000 or so.
       
      Source: Jeep
      Press Release is on Page 2
      New Jeep® Wrangler 4xe Joins Renegade and Compass 4xe Models in Brand’s Global Electric Vehicle Lineup
      Advanced, Eco-friendly, Premium Technology Delivers Absolute and Quiet Open-air Freedom, an Even More Fun-to-drive On-road Experience and a New Level of Benchmark Jeep® Off-road Capability
      4xe electric vehicle technology is the natural evolution of nearly 80 years of Jeep® capability leadership Jeep 4xe vehicles provide new levels of efficiency, environmental responsibility, performance and capability, on and off the road Jeep Wrangler 4xe available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021; Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models began arriving in Europe this summer Wrangler 4xe boasts 375 horsepower and delivers up to 25 miles of pure electric operation for daily commutes while providing nearly silent, zero-emission, open-air freedom without range anxiety Torque-on-demand electric power enhances Wrangler’s on-road performance, delivering crisp launches from a standing start and plenty of low-speed thrust Low-speed, peak torque-on-demand raises Wrangler’s legendary off-road benchmark to master off-road environments Wrangler 4xe is first and foremost a Jeep Wrangler with Trail Rated running gear: solid front and rear axles, full-time 4x4 two-speed transfer case, fully articulating suspension and 30 inches of water fording capability Wrangler 4xe’s advanced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, two electric motors and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission combine to deliver an estimated 50 MPGe 400-volt, 17 kWh, 96-cell battery pack mounts beneath second-row seat to protect it from outside elements and to preserve the interior space Wrangler 4xe features exclusive exterior design cues to signify efficient, environmentally friendly, electrification technology Available for order in Europe, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe deliver up to 240 horsepower and approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) of zero-emission pure electric range September 3, 2020 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Jeep® brand has introduced its new Wrangler 4xe, marking the arrival of the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly Wrangler ever. Jeep Wrangler 4xe models will be available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021. The Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models – introduced last year in Geneva – began arriving in Europe this summer. The new Jeep 4xe models follow the introduction of the Jeep Grand Commander PHEV in China last year.
      The Wrangler 4xe’s plug-in hybrid powertrain is capable of up to 25 miles of nearly silent, zero-emission, electric-only propulsion, making it commuter friendly as an all-electric daily driver without range anxiety and the most capable and eco-friendly Jeep vehicle off-road – combined with the open-air freedom that only Jeep Wrangler offers.
      Jeep will offer electrification options on each nameplate in the next few years as it strives to become the leader in eco-friendly premium technology. Electrified Jeep vehicles will carry the 4xe badge. Jeep electric vehicles will be the most efficient and responsible Jeep vehicles ever, taking performance, 4x4 capability and driver confidence to the next level.
      “Our Jeep 4xe vehicles will be the most efficient, responsible and capable that the brand has ever created,” said Christian Meunier, Global President of Jeep Brand - FCA. “We are committed to make Jeep the greenest SUV brand. The electrification of the Jeep lineup will allow commuters to travel solely on electric power, delivering an efficient and fun on-road experience and offering an ability to enjoy even more Jeep capability off-road in nearly complete silence.”
      The Wrangler 4xe’s advanced powertrain provides a unique on- and off-road experience through the combination of two electric motors, a high-voltage battery pack, a high-tech 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. The most advanced powertrain ever developed for a Jeep Wrangler maximizes efficiency with an estimated 50 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) while eliminating range anxiety, delivering pure-electric operation for most daily commutes.
      Torque from the electric motors in the Wrangler 4xe’s hybrid powertrain arrives instantly on demand from the driver. The powertrain also delivers fuel-saving, seamless, start-stop operation of the engine.
      Jeep has demonstrated 4x4 capability leadership for nearly 80 years. Jeep vehicles were the first to feature an automatic full-time four-wheel-drive system, first 4:1 transfer case and first electronic front sway-bar disconnect system. Merging electrification into the product lineup is a natural evolution.
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe will be sold globally, with electric vehicle (EV) charge port plugs tailored to specific regions. It is assembled at FCA’s Toledo Assembly Complex in Toledo, Ohio.
      Wrangler 4xe Advanced Powertrain Combines Electric Motors, Turbo Engine
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe powertrain integrates two electric motors and a 400-volt battery pack with a fuel-efficient, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine and TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. This configuration maximizes the efficiency of the hybrid propulsion components and mates them with the Wrangler’s world-renowned and proven driveline.
      Key elements of the Wrangler 4xe powertrain include 375 horsepower (280 kW), 470 lb.-ft. (637 N•m) of torque and an estimated 50 MPGe from the following components:
      2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 Engine-mounted motor generator unit Transmission-mounted motor generator unit integrated into eight-speed automatic transmission (ZF 8P75PH) 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion, nickel manganese cobalt battery pack The 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine is part of FCA’s Global Medium Engine family. The high-tech, direct-injection engine uses a twin-scroll, low-inertia turbocharger mounted directly to the cylinder head, along with a dedicated cooling circuit for the turbocharger, intake air and throttle body for exceptional responsiveness, performance and fuel efficiency.
      A high-voltage, liquid-cooled motor generator unit mounts at the front of the engine, replacing the conventional alternator. A robust belt connects the motor generator to the engine crankshaft pulley. The motor generator spins the engine for nearly seamless, fuel-saving, start-stop operation and generates electricity for the battery pack. The Wrangler 4xe does not use a conventional 12-volt starter motor. The Wrangler 4xe is equipped with a 12-volt battery to run accessories.
      The second high-voltage motor generator is mounted at the front of the transmission case, replacing the conventional torque converter of an automatic transmission.

      Two clutches work to manage power and torque from the e-motor and engine. A binary clutch (on/off) is mounted between the engine and the motor. When this clutch is open there is no mechanical linkage between the engine and the e-motor, which enables it to propel the Wrangler 4xe in electric-only mode.
      When the binary clutch is closed, torque from the 2.0-liter engine and the e-motor flow combine through the automatic transmission. A variable clutch mounted behind the e-motor manages engagement with the transmission to improve drivability and efficiency.
      Battery Pack Preserves Interior Room
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe’s 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion battery pack uses nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) graphite chemistry. The pack and controls mount underneath the second-row seat, where it is protected from outside elements. The Wrangler 4xe’s second-row seat is redesigned, allowing the bottom cushion to flip forward for access to the battery.
      Encased in an aluminum housing, the pack is fitted with a dedicated heating and cooling circuit to keep the battery at its optimum temperature for best performance. The temperature control circuit includes a dedicated heater unit and a chiller that uses the Wrangler air-conditioning refrigerant to reduce coolant temperature when needed.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid system includes an Integrated Dual Charging Module (ICDM), which combines a battery charger and a DC/DC converter in a single unit that is more compact than two separate components, and a next-generation Power Inverter Module (PIM) that is reduced in size. These components are housed and protected from damage in a steel structure mounted below the battery pack.
      All high-voltage electronics, including the wiring between the battery pack and the electric motors, are sealed and waterproof. Like all Trail Rated Jeep Wranglers, the Wrangler 4xe is capable of water fording up to 30 inches (76 cm).
      The electric charge port features a push-open/push-close cover and is located on the left front cowl of the Wrangler 4xe for convenient nose-in parking at charging locations. The charge port includes LED indicators of charging status. An LED battery level monitor is mounted on top of the instrument panel, making it easy to check battery state of charge at a glance during charging.
      Wrangler 4xe E Selec Modes
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe driver can tailor the hybrid powertrain to best suit each trip, whether it is filling the needs of most daily commuters in pure-electric operation, a night on the town or quietly exploring nature off-road.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid powertrain has three modes of operation, known as E Selec. The driver can select the desired powertrain mode via buttons mounted on the instrument panel, to the left of the steering wheel. Regardless of the mode selected, the Wrangler 4xe operates as hybrid once the battery nears its minimum state of charge.
      Hybrid: The default mode blends torque from the 2.0-liter engine and electric motor. In this mode, the powertrain will use battery power first, then add in propulsion from the 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 when the battery reaches minimum state of charge Electric: The powertrain operates on zero-emission electric power only until the battery reaches the minimum charge or the driver requests more torque (such as wide-open throttle), which engages the 2.0-liter engine eSave: Prioritizes propulsion from the 2.0-liter engine, saving the battery charge for later use, such as EV off-roading or urban areas where internal combustion propulsion is restricted. The driver can also choose between Battery Save and Battery Charge during eSave via the Hybrid Electric Pages in the Uconnect monitor To help optimize the benefit of the E Selec modes, the Wrangler 4xe driver information display and the Uconnect touchscreen feature Eco Coaching Pages. The Eco Coaching Pages let owners monitor power flow and see the impact of regenerative braking, schedule charging times to take advantage of lower electric rates, and view their driving history with a detail of electric and gasoline usage.
      Regenerative braking is a key part of the Wrangler 4xe eco-friendly equation. When the driver steps on the brake pedal, the powertrain control engages the maximum available regenerative braking, up to 0.25 g, from the electric motors to slow the vehicle, augmented with the Wrangler’s traditional friction brakes. The regenerative braking feature also extends the replacement period for brake pads.
      With 4x4 engaged, all four wheels feed torque for regenerative braking, maximizing the energy recovery. Electricity due to regenerative braking is fed to the battery pack to maintain or increase the state of charge.
      The Wrangler 4xe also features the ability to maximize regenerative energy production via a driver-selectable Max Regen feature.
      When Max Regen is engaged, a more assertive regenerative braking calibration occurs when the vehicle sees zero throttle input from the driver (coasting). Max Regen can slow the Wrangler 4xe faster than standard regenerative braking and generate more electricity for the battery pack. Once selected, the Max Regen feature remains engaged until driver deselects it.
      Off-road Legend
      Jeep Wrangler’s heritage is defined by its legendary off-road capability. All Wrangler 4xe power modes are available when the drivetrain is shifted to 4Lo. The seamless integration of electric power into the 4x4 drivetrain elevates the Wrangler 4xe to new levels of off-road performance.
      Enthusiasts will find that the instant availability of torque from the Wrangler 4xe’s electric motor delivers a more precise and controlled driving experience for climbing and crawling – there’s no need to build up engine rpm to get the tires to move, minimizing driveline shock loading and maximizing control and speed.
      In EV mode, the Wrangler 4xe treads lightly and silently, conserving fuel and allowing occupants to focus solely on the sights and full sounds of nature.
      The new Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in three models: 4xe, Sahara 4xe and Rubicon 4xe. Wrangler 4xe and Wrangler Sahara 4xe models are equipped with full-time 4x4 systems, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles and are fitted with the Selec-Trac two-speed transfer case with a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio. The intuitive system allows the driver to set it and forget it in any environment.
      An available Trac-Lok limited-slip rear differential provides extra grip and capability in low-traction situations, such as driving over sand, gravel, snow or ice.
      Wrangler Rubicon 4xe models carry the Rock-Trac 4x4 system that includes a two-speed transfer case with a 4:1 low-range gear ratio, full-time 4x4, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles, Tru-Lok electric front- and rear-axle lockers. The Wrangler Rubicon 4xe has an impressive crawl ratio of 77.2:1, which makes scaling any obstacle easy. Wrangler Rubicon models also offer improved articulation and total suspension travel with help from a front axle, electronic sway-bar disconnect. Together, these components contribute to the maximum off-road prowess Wrangler Rubicon is known for.
      The Wrangler 4xe includes Selec-Speed Control with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control. This allows drivers to control vehicle speed up and down steep, rugged grades with the transmission shift lever.
      Like every Jeep Wrangler, the Jeep Wrangler 4xe models wear a Trail Rated badge that signifies legendary 4x4 capability with equipment that includes:
      Skid plates and front and rear tow hooks Wrangler Rubicon 4xe approach angle of 44 degrees, breakover angle of 22.5 degrees, departure angle of 35.6 degrees and ground clearance of 10.8 inches (27.4 cm) Aggressive, available, 17-inch, off-road wheels and 33-inch tires standard on Rubicon 4xe; 20-inch wheels standard on Wrangler 4xe and Sahara 4xe Up to 30 inches (76 cm) of water fording All 4xe models maintain Wrangler’s renowned ease of customization with a host of Jeep Performance Parts from Mopar, available when the vehicle arrives in showrooms.
      ‘Electric Blue’ Design Cues Mark Wrangler 4xe
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe maintains a sculptural design aesthetic that’s bold and functional, with a wide stance and trapezoidal wheel flares.
      Exclusive content identifies the Jeep Wrangler 4xe as the most technologically advanced Wrangler ever. New Electric Blue coloring on the front and rear Rubicon tow hooks stands out against the black bumpers. The unique blue coloring also traces the Rubicon name on the hood, Jeep badge and the Trail Rated badge. Select Easter egg design cues also receive the Electric Blue shade. The black hood decal is outlined in the special color with “4xe” that lets the body color show through.
      Inside, the Wrangler 4xe Rubicon includes unique Electric Blue stitching on the seats and trim.
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in 10 exterior colors: Black, Bright White, Firecracker Red, Granite Crystal Metallic, Hella Yella, Hydro Blue (late availability), Sting-Gray, Snazzberry, Sarge and Billet Silver Metallic. Two Wrangler interior options are available in the 4xe version: Black with Heritage Tan cloth and Black with Dark Saddle leather.
      Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe
      Presented globally in March 2019 at the Geneva Motor Show, the new Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe are the first Jeep models with plug-in hybrid electric technology available in Europe. Their arrival was celebrated in January with the exclusive First Edition – a special launch edition made available for customer previews and pre-booking on a dedicated website for select European markets. Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe began arriving in the European market this summer. Both Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models feature a no-compromise hybrid solution that integrates the unmatched technical layout of each Jeep SUV and takes their capability to the next level through some of the most advanced technology, which combines enhanced performance (up to 240 horsepower), improved safety (four-wheel drive is always available) and low environmental impact (less than 50 g/km of CO2 in the hybrid mode).
      The combination of a 1.3-liter turbocharged gasoline engine and the electric unit guarantees performance and extraordinary driving pleasure: acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in less than 7.5 seconds and full electric top speed is 130 km/h, which reaches 200 km/h in the hybrid mode.
      With the new hybrid technology, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe further improve their benchmark off-road capability courtesy of the greater torque offered by the combination between the two power sources. Thanks to the new Jeep 4xe technology, traction to the rear axle is not provided by a prop shaft, but through the dedicated electric motor. This allows the two axles to be separated and control the torque independently in a more effective way than a mechanical system, giving instant electric boost to the rear wheels when needed.
      The new Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe began arriving in Jeep dealerships across Europe this summer with a full lineup to include Limited, S and Trailhawk trims, all with four-wheel-drive configuration.
      Mopar and Jeep Performance Parts Supports Launch of Most Capable, Technically Advanced, Eco-friendly Jeep Wrangler Ever
      When the new 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (pronounced 4byE) plug-in hybrid joins the Jeep brand’s global electric vehicle lineup later this year, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a wide variety of factory-engineered, quality-tested performance parts and accessories for the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly SUV on the planet.
      The comprehensive portfolio of more than 300 Jeep Wrangler products will include exclusive Jeep Performance Parts (JPP) offerings, allowing customers the opportunity to expand upon the Wrangler’s fun-to-drive on- and off-road experiences. An industry-first, OEM-developed JPP 2-inch lift kit is specifically engineered and tuned for the Wrangler 4xe plug-in hybrid application. Additional products will include beadlock-capable wheels, off-road bumpers, LED off-road lights and rock rails, just to name a few. More detailed information will be available closer to launch.
      In addition, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a 240-volt at-home electric vehicle (EV) wall charger on Amazon.com and quality installation services, giving customers a fast and convenient way to charge their vehicles at home.
      Unlike any other aftermarket offerings, Jeep Performance Parts and accessories are backed by a full factory warranty. The products are created in close conjunction with the Jeep brand, engineering and product design-office teams for development, testing and validation. Strict standards and factory-exclusive data — information not available to the aftermarket — are used to seamlessly integrate performance parts and accessories in order to deliver proper fit, finish and quality right down to the color, grain, and appearance of each product.

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    • By William Maley
      The Jeep Wrangler is going green with the introduction of the 4xe.
      This plug-in hybrid version of the Wrangler pairs a 2.0L turbo-four with a transmission-mounted electric motor. Total output is 375 horsepower and 470 pound-feet of torque, making this the powerful production Wrangler to date. A 17.0-kWh, liquid-cooled battery pack battery pack mounted under the rear-seat provides the electric juice and allows the 4xe to travel up 25 miles on electric power only. The transmission is an eight-speed automatic. Jeep hasn't revealed how long it takes to charge up the 4xe.
      Before you start thinking that going plug-in hybrid lessens the capability, Jeep says the 4xe models come with Dana 44 axles front and rear, and the various electronics have been waterproofed - allowing it to ford up to 30 inches of water. Base and Sahara models come with a two-speed transfer case with automatic four-wheel-drive mode and a 2.72:1 low-range. Rubicon models feature a transfer case with a 4:1 low-range, electronic locking front and rear axles with a 4.1:1 ratio, and an electronic sway bar disconnect.
      The 4xe does give up cargo space, with 27.7 cubic feet behind the rear seats (down four) and 67.4 with the rear seats folded (down five). It is also heavier with the base model coming at 5,000 pounds - about 800 pounds heavier than the gas model. 
      Jeep will begin selling the Wrangler 4xe early next year in the three trims mentioned above. You'll only be able to get it in the four-door version. Expecting pricing to be above $30,000 or so.
       
      Source: Jeep
      Press Release is on Page 2
      New Jeep® Wrangler 4xe Joins Renegade and Compass 4xe Models in Brand’s Global Electric Vehicle Lineup
      Advanced, Eco-friendly, Premium Technology Delivers Absolute and Quiet Open-air Freedom, an Even More Fun-to-drive On-road Experience and a New Level of Benchmark Jeep® Off-road Capability
      4xe electric vehicle technology is the natural evolution of nearly 80 years of Jeep® capability leadership Jeep 4xe vehicles provide new levels of efficiency, environmental responsibility, performance and capability, on and off the road Jeep Wrangler 4xe available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021; Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models began arriving in Europe this summer Wrangler 4xe boasts 375 horsepower and delivers up to 25 miles of pure electric operation for daily commutes while providing nearly silent, zero-emission, open-air freedom without range anxiety Torque-on-demand electric power enhances Wrangler’s on-road performance, delivering crisp launches from a standing start and plenty of low-speed thrust Low-speed, peak torque-on-demand raises Wrangler’s legendary off-road benchmark to master off-road environments Wrangler 4xe is first and foremost a Jeep Wrangler with Trail Rated running gear: solid front and rear axles, full-time 4x4 two-speed transfer case, fully articulating suspension and 30 inches of water fording capability Wrangler 4xe’s advanced turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine, two electric motors and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission combine to deliver an estimated 50 MPGe 400-volt, 17 kWh, 96-cell battery pack mounts beneath second-row seat to protect it from outside elements and to preserve the interior space Wrangler 4xe features exclusive exterior design cues to signify efficient, environmentally friendly, electrification technology Available for order in Europe, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe deliver up to 240 horsepower and approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) of zero-emission pure electric range September 3, 2020 , Auburn Hills, Mich. - The Jeep® brand has introduced its new Wrangler 4xe, marking the arrival of the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly Wrangler ever. Jeep Wrangler 4xe models will be available in Europe, China and the United States by early 2021. The Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models – introduced last year in Geneva – began arriving in Europe this summer. The new Jeep 4xe models follow the introduction of the Jeep Grand Commander PHEV in China last year.
      The Wrangler 4xe’s plug-in hybrid powertrain is capable of up to 25 miles of nearly silent, zero-emission, electric-only propulsion, making it commuter friendly as an all-electric daily driver without range anxiety and the most capable and eco-friendly Jeep vehicle off-road – combined with the open-air freedom that only Jeep Wrangler offers.
      Jeep will offer electrification options on each nameplate in the next few years as it strives to become the leader in eco-friendly premium technology. Electrified Jeep vehicles will carry the 4xe badge. Jeep electric vehicles will be the most efficient and responsible Jeep vehicles ever, taking performance, 4x4 capability and driver confidence to the next level.
      “Our Jeep 4xe vehicles will be the most efficient, responsible and capable that the brand has ever created,” said Christian Meunier, Global President of Jeep Brand - FCA. “We are committed to make Jeep the greenest SUV brand. The electrification of the Jeep lineup will allow commuters to travel solely on electric power, delivering an efficient and fun on-road experience and offering an ability to enjoy even more Jeep capability off-road in nearly complete silence.”
      The Wrangler 4xe’s advanced powertrain provides a unique on- and off-road experience through the combination of two electric motors, a high-voltage battery pack, a high-tech 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine and robust TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. The most advanced powertrain ever developed for a Jeep Wrangler maximizes efficiency with an estimated 50 miles per gallon equivalent (MPGe) while eliminating range anxiety, delivering pure-electric operation for most daily commutes.
      Torque from the electric motors in the Wrangler 4xe’s hybrid powertrain arrives instantly on demand from the driver. The powertrain also delivers fuel-saving, seamless, start-stop operation of the engine.
      Jeep has demonstrated 4x4 capability leadership for nearly 80 years. Jeep vehicles were the first to feature an automatic full-time four-wheel-drive system, first 4:1 transfer case and first electronic front sway-bar disconnect system. Merging electrification into the product lineup is a natural evolution.
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe will be sold globally, with electric vehicle (EV) charge port plugs tailored to specific regions. It is assembled at FCA’s Toledo Assembly Complex in Toledo, Ohio.
      Wrangler 4xe Advanced Powertrain Combines Electric Motors, Turbo Engine
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe powertrain integrates two electric motors and a 400-volt battery pack with a fuel-efficient, turbocharged, four-cylinder engine and TorqueFlite eight-speed automatic transmission. This configuration maximizes the efficiency of the hybrid propulsion components and mates them with the Wrangler’s world-renowned and proven driveline.
      Key elements of the Wrangler 4xe powertrain include 375 horsepower (280 kW), 470 lb.-ft. (637 N•m) of torque and an estimated 50 MPGe from the following components:
      2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 Engine-mounted motor generator unit Transmission-mounted motor generator unit integrated into eight-speed automatic transmission (ZF 8P75PH) 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion, nickel manganese cobalt battery pack The 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 engine is part of FCA’s Global Medium Engine family. The high-tech, direct-injection engine uses a twin-scroll, low-inertia turbocharger mounted directly to the cylinder head, along with a dedicated cooling circuit for the turbocharger, intake air and throttle body for exceptional responsiveness, performance and fuel efficiency.
      A high-voltage, liquid-cooled motor generator unit mounts at the front of the engine, replacing the conventional alternator. A robust belt connects the motor generator to the engine crankshaft pulley. The motor generator spins the engine for nearly seamless, fuel-saving, start-stop operation and generates electricity for the battery pack. The Wrangler 4xe does not use a conventional 12-volt starter motor. The Wrangler 4xe is equipped with a 12-volt battery to run accessories.
      The second high-voltage motor generator is mounted at the front of the transmission case, replacing the conventional torque converter of an automatic transmission.

      Two clutches work to manage power and torque from the e-motor and engine. A binary clutch (on/off) is mounted between the engine and the motor. When this clutch is open there is no mechanical linkage between the engine and the e-motor, which enables it to propel the Wrangler 4xe in electric-only mode.
      When the binary clutch is closed, torque from the 2.0-liter engine and the e-motor flow combine through the automatic transmission. A variable clutch mounted behind the e-motor manages engagement with the transmission to improve drivability and efficiency.
      Battery Pack Preserves Interior Room
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe’s 400-volt, 17-kWh, 96-cell lithium-ion battery pack uses nickel manganese cobalt (NMC) graphite chemistry. The pack and controls mount underneath the second-row seat, where it is protected from outside elements. The Wrangler 4xe’s second-row seat is redesigned, allowing the bottom cushion to flip forward for access to the battery.
      Encased in an aluminum housing, the pack is fitted with a dedicated heating and cooling circuit to keep the battery at its optimum temperature for best performance. The temperature control circuit includes a dedicated heater unit and a chiller that uses the Wrangler air-conditioning refrigerant to reduce coolant temperature when needed.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid system includes an Integrated Dual Charging Module (ICDM), which combines a battery charger and a DC/DC converter in a single unit that is more compact than two separate components, and a next-generation Power Inverter Module (PIM) that is reduced in size. These components are housed and protected from damage in a steel structure mounted below the battery pack.
      All high-voltage electronics, including the wiring between the battery pack and the electric motors, are sealed and waterproof. Like all Trail Rated Jeep Wranglers, the Wrangler 4xe is capable of water fording up to 30 inches (76 cm).
      The electric charge port features a push-open/push-close cover and is located on the left front cowl of the Wrangler 4xe for convenient nose-in parking at charging locations. The charge port includes LED indicators of charging status. An LED battery level monitor is mounted on top of the instrument panel, making it easy to check battery state of charge at a glance during charging.
      Wrangler 4xe E Selec Modes
      The Jeep Wrangler 4xe driver can tailor the hybrid powertrain to best suit each trip, whether it is filling the needs of most daily commuters in pure-electric operation, a night on the town or quietly exploring nature off-road.
      The Wrangler 4xe hybrid powertrain has three modes of operation, known as E Selec. The driver can select the desired powertrain mode via buttons mounted on the instrument panel, to the left of the steering wheel. Regardless of the mode selected, the Wrangler 4xe operates as hybrid once the battery nears its minimum state of charge.
      Hybrid: The default mode blends torque from the 2.0-liter engine and electric motor. In this mode, the powertrain will use battery power first, then add in propulsion from the 2.0-liter turbocharged I-4 when the battery reaches minimum state of charge Electric: The powertrain operates on zero-emission electric power only until the battery reaches the minimum charge or the driver requests more torque (such as wide-open throttle), which engages the 2.0-liter engine eSave: Prioritizes propulsion from the 2.0-liter engine, saving the battery charge for later use, such as EV off-roading or urban areas where internal combustion propulsion is restricted. The driver can also choose between Battery Save and Battery Charge during eSave via the Hybrid Electric Pages in the Uconnect monitor To help optimize the benefit of the E Selec modes, the Wrangler 4xe driver information display and the Uconnect touchscreen feature Eco Coaching Pages. The Eco Coaching Pages let owners monitor power flow and see the impact of regenerative braking, schedule charging times to take advantage of lower electric rates, and view their driving history with a detail of electric and gasoline usage.
      Regenerative braking is a key part of the Wrangler 4xe eco-friendly equation. When the driver steps on the brake pedal, the powertrain control engages the maximum available regenerative braking, up to 0.25 g, from the electric motors to slow the vehicle, augmented with the Wrangler’s traditional friction brakes. The regenerative braking feature also extends the replacement period for brake pads.
      With 4x4 engaged, all four wheels feed torque for regenerative braking, maximizing the energy recovery. Electricity due to regenerative braking is fed to the battery pack to maintain or increase the state of charge.
      The Wrangler 4xe also features the ability to maximize regenerative energy production via a driver-selectable Max Regen feature.
      When Max Regen is engaged, a more assertive regenerative braking calibration occurs when the vehicle sees zero throttle input from the driver (coasting). Max Regen can slow the Wrangler 4xe faster than standard regenerative braking and generate more electricity for the battery pack. Once selected, the Max Regen feature remains engaged until driver deselects it.
      Off-road Legend
      Jeep Wrangler’s heritage is defined by its legendary off-road capability. All Wrangler 4xe power modes are available when the drivetrain is shifted to 4Lo. The seamless integration of electric power into the 4x4 drivetrain elevates the Wrangler 4xe to new levels of off-road performance.
      Enthusiasts will find that the instant availability of torque from the Wrangler 4xe’s electric motor delivers a more precise and controlled driving experience for climbing and crawling – there’s no need to build up engine rpm to get the tires to move, minimizing driveline shock loading and maximizing control and speed.
      In EV mode, the Wrangler 4xe treads lightly and silently, conserving fuel and allowing occupants to focus solely on the sights and full sounds of nature.
      The new Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in three models: 4xe, Sahara 4xe and Rubicon 4xe. Wrangler 4xe and Wrangler Sahara 4xe models are equipped with full-time 4x4 systems, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles and are fitted with the Selec-Trac two-speed transfer case with a 2.72:1 low-range gear ratio. The intuitive system allows the driver to set it and forget it in any environment.
      An available Trac-Lok limited-slip rear differential provides extra grip and capability in low-traction situations, such as driving over sand, gravel, snow or ice.
      Wrangler Rubicon 4xe models carry the Rock-Trac 4x4 system that includes a two-speed transfer case with a 4:1 low-range gear ratio, full-time 4x4, front and rear next-generation Dana 44 axles, Tru-Lok electric front- and rear-axle lockers. The Wrangler Rubicon 4xe has an impressive crawl ratio of 77.2:1, which makes scaling any obstacle easy. Wrangler Rubicon models also offer improved articulation and total suspension travel with help from a front axle, electronic sway-bar disconnect. Together, these components contribute to the maximum off-road prowess Wrangler Rubicon is known for.
      The Wrangler 4xe includes Selec-Speed Control with Hill-ascent and Hill-descent Control. This allows drivers to control vehicle speed up and down steep, rugged grades with the transmission shift lever.
      Like every Jeep Wrangler, the Jeep Wrangler 4xe models wear a Trail Rated badge that signifies legendary 4x4 capability with equipment that includes:
      Skid plates and front and rear tow hooks Wrangler Rubicon 4xe approach angle of 44 degrees, breakover angle of 22.5 degrees, departure angle of 35.6 degrees and ground clearance of 10.8 inches (27.4 cm) Aggressive, available, 17-inch, off-road wheels and 33-inch tires standard on Rubicon 4xe; 20-inch wheels standard on Wrangler 4xe and Sahara 4xe Up to 30 inches (76 cm) of water fording All 4xe models maintain Wrangler’s renowned ease of customization with a host of Jeep Performance Parts from Mopar, available when the vehicle arrives in showrooms.
      ‘Electric Blue’ Design Cues Mark Wrangler 4xe
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe maintains a sculptural design aesthetic that’s bold and functional, with a wide stance and trapezoidal wheel flares.
      Exclusive content identifies the Jeep Wrangler 4xe as the most technologically advanced Wrangler ever. New Electric Blue coloring on the front and rear Rubicon tow hooks stands out against the black bumpers. The unique blue coloring also traces the Rubicon name on the hood, Jeep badge and the Trail Rated badge. Select Easter egg design cues also receive the Electric Blue shade. The black hood decal is outlined in the special color with “4xe” that lets the body color show through.
      Inside, the Wrangler 4xe Rubicon includes unique Electric Blue stitching on the seats and trim.
      The 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe is available in 10 exterior colors: Black, Bright White, Firecracker Red, Granite Crystal Metallic, Hella Yella, Hydro Blue (late availability), Sting-Gray, Snazzberry, Sarge and Billet Silver Metallic. Two Wrangler interior options are available in the 4xe version: Black with Heritage Tan cloth and Black with Dark Saddle leather.
      Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe
      Presented globally in March 2019 at the Geneva Motor Show, the new Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe are the first Jeep models with plug-in hybrid electric technology available in Europe. Their arrival was celebrated in January with the exclusive First Edition – a special launch edition made available for customer previews and pre-booking on a dedicated website for select European markets. Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe began arriving in the European market this summer. Both Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe models feature a no-compromise hybrid solution that integrates the unmatched technical layout of each Jeep SUV and takes their capability to the next level through some of the most advanced technology, which combines enhanced performance (up to 240 horsepower), improved safety (four-wheel drive is always available) and low environmental impact (less than 50 g/km of CO2 in the hybrid mode).
      The combination of a 1.3-liter turbocharged gasoline engine and the electric unit guarantees performance and extraordinary driving pleasure: acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h in less than 7.5 seconds and full electric top speed is 130 km/h, which reaches 200 km/h in the hybrid mode.
      With the new hybrid technology, Jeep Renegade 4xe and Compass 4xe further improve their benchmark off-road capability courtesy of the greater torque offered by the combination between the two power sources. Thanks to the new Jeep 4xe technology, traction to the rear axle is not provided by a prop shaft, but through the dedicated electric motor. This allows the two axles to be separated and control the torque independently in a more effective way than a mechanical system, giving instant electric boost to the rear wheels when needed.
      The new Jeep Renegade 4xe and Jeep Compass 4xe began arriving in Jeep dealerships across Europe this summer with a full lineup to include Limited, S and Trailhawk trims, all with four-wheel-drive configuration.
      Mopar and Jeep Performance Parts Supports Launch of Most Capable, Technically Advanced, Eco-friendly Jeep Wrangler Ever
      When the new 2021 Jeep Wrangler 4xe (pronounced 4byE) plug-in hybrid joins the Jeep brand’s global electric vehicle lineup later this year, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a wide variety of factory-engineered, quality-tested performance parts and accessories for the most capable, technically advanced and eco-friendly SUV on the planet.
      The comprehensive portfolio of more than 300 Jeep Wrangler products will include exclusive Jeep Performance Parts (JPP) offerings, allowing customers the opportunity to expand upon the Wrangler’s fun-to-drive on- and off-road experiences. An industry-first, OEM-developed JPP 2-inch lift kit is specifically engineered and tuned for the Wrangler 4xe plug-in hybrid application. Additional products will include beadlock-capable wheels, off-road bumpers, LED off-road lights and rock rails, just to name a few. More detailed information will be available closer to launch.
      In addition, Jeep Performance Parts and Mopar will offer a 240-volt at-home electric vehicle (EV) wall charger on Amazon.com and quality installation services, giving customers a fast and convenient way to charge their vehicles at home.
      Unlike any other aftermarket offerings, Jeep Performance Parts and accessories are backed by a full factory warranty. The products are created in close conjunction with the Jeep brand, engineering and product design-office teams for development, testing and validation. Strict standards and factory-exclusive data — information not available to the aftermarket — are used to seamlessly integrate performance parts and accessories in order to deliver proper fit, finish and quality right down to the color, grain, and appearance of each product.
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      https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a33799068/chevy-2022-bolt-bolt-euv-tease/
      https://www.autoblog.com/2020/08/26/2022-chevy-bolt-euv-teaser-video/
      https://www.carscoops.com/2020/08/chevrolet-teases-2022-bolt-euv-and-ev-confirms-super-cruise-for-electric-suv/
      https://insideevs.com/news/440899/chevrolet-bolt-euv-production-summer-2021/
       
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    • Another reason for my dislike of the UAW. They leaders are screwing the union members. Former UAW president pleads guilty to embezzling union funds https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-autos-labor-corruption/former-uaw-president-pleads-guilty-to-embezzling-union-funds-idUSKBN26L3KY Time to face the Music Audi Ex-CEO, VWE expect more costs associated with Dieselgate. Ex-Audi chief arrives in German court to face dieselgate charges https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-emissions-audi/ex-audi-chief-arrives-in-german-court-to-face-dieselgate-charges-idUSKBN26L1KG      
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