Chris_Doane

Let me just save you the "heartbreak"

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With all the recent "uproar" over the Challenger B pillar....there is something you should all start warming up to...

There is a pretty good chance the Camaro is going to have one too.

Cost? Structural rigidity? Side impact?

Yea.

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OMG?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!??! RU4REAL?!?!??!?! ROTFLMAO?!?!???!?! TTYL?!?!??!?!??! BFF?!?!??!?!??! AT&T?!?!??!?!??!

This completely ruins any street cred the Camaro could ever hope to achieve and eliminates it from ever being a respectable muscle car. Furthermore, it tarnishes the history of every single Camaro ever produced ever and by extension, the history of the Firebird, too. Might as well slap a Solara badge on it and call it a day.

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Oh well it wouldn't stop me from liking it. It is not that big of a deal. Panther will have a fit tho! :blink:

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OMG?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!??! RU4REAL?!?!??!?! ROTFLMAO?!?!???!?! TTYL?!?!??!?!??! BFF?!?!??!?!??! AT&T?!?!??!?!??!

This completely ruins any street cred the Camaro could ever hope to achieve and eliminates it from ever being a respectable muscle car. Furthermore, it tarnishes the history of every single Camaro ever produced ever and by extension, the history of the Firebird, too. Might as well slap a Solara badge on it and call it a day.

Heh-heh..is that a parody of a Sixty-Eight rant? Seems like a mild version of one of his rants.

No big deal, IMHO....

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It disappoints me, but would not make-or-break my purchase, were I itching to buy one.

But the so-strong 'modern '69' design of the '09 makes me seriously wonder what the literal / engineering reasons are for making the Camaro sedan rather than a hardtop.

Cost & structural rigidity don't seem like they'd amount to close to a prohibitive amount with a brand new shell- just add the appropriate bracing. Side impact is another issue, tho.

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OMG?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!??! RU4REAL?!?!??!?! ROTFLMAO?!?!???!?! TTYL?!?!??!?!??! BFF?!?!??!?!??! AT&T?!?!??!?!??!

This completely ruins any street cred the Camaro could ever hope to achieve and eliminates it from ever being a respectable muscle car. Furthermore, it tarnishes the history of every single Camaro ever produced ever and by extension, the history of the Firebird, too. Might as well slap a Solara badge on it and call it a day.

You feel better now?
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OMG?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!??! RU4REAL?!?!??!?! ROTFLMAO?!?!???!?! TTYL?!?!??!?!??! BFF?!?!??!?!??! AT&T?!?!??!?!??!

This completely ruins any street cred the Camaro could ever hope to achieve and eliminates it from ever being a respectable muscle car. Furthermore, it tarnishes the history of every single Camaro ever produced ever and by extension, the history of the Firebird, too. Might as well slap a Solara badge on it and call it a day.

Oh Fly, you make me laugh so :P

Sixty8 is gonna $h! a brick when he reads this! :lol:

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OK, that's it. My next RWD V8 muscle car will be a Hyundai.

-RBB

fixed

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With all the recent "uproar" over the Challenger B pillar....there is something you should all start warming up to...

There is a pretty good chance the Camaro is going to have one too.

Cost? Structural rigidity? Side impact?

Yea.

.......and weight.

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99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999.8% of the population will still love the Camaro though.

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.......and weight.

Weight is what I thought of...a hardtop could have similar side impact safety/rigidity as a convertible, but would weigh as much or more than a convertible...a 3800lb Camaro doesn't sound too tasty..

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We don't need no stinking B pillar!

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Ermm...did you miss the photos of the Challenger body from inside Brampton?

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Ermm...did you miss the photos of the Challenger body from inside Brampton?

No, I saw them, I just like those Red, White and Blue pics! :smilewide:

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99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999.8% of the population will still love the Camaro though.

Mr. Booyah why two decimal points? One after 99, and one before 8? Is this a new decimal system to explain what people will buy? :AH-HA_wink:

99.999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999998% of the population will still love the Camaro though.

Fixed.

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Lets see here are you options to keep no pillar.

Option 1: 4200 LBS and we all complain

Option 2: $45,000 for the base V6 once they add all the aluminum to lose the weight and we all complain.

Option 3: No Camaro at all and we all complain.

Option 4: Drink a beer, still buy one and just get over it. As it is just a stinking pillar not the end of the world and if any one complains we kick them in the jewels to take their mind off of it.

I was expection a pillar and a lot of crying when it is first seen. To me the pillar is easier to deal with than all the petty pissing and moaning.

If you don't like the pillar just buy the Convertible. It could have been worse, the convert could have had a basket handle roll bar of a Cutlass on it..........................

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The Camaro is a B-pillar featuring rolling pile of crap. Going to have to go with the Tiburon now for my speed needs.

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Meh...something tells me that a B-pillar will not have a huge impact on the looks of the car. I can think of worse insults to the Camaro, like being put on Delta or Epsilon and being powered by a 4-cylinder.

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Meh...something tells me that a B-pillar will not have a huge impact on the looks of the car. I can think of worse insults to the Camaro, like being put on Delta or Epsilon and being powered by a 4-cylinder.

Or worse, tack the Camaro name onto a minivan.
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OMG?!?!?! WTF?!?!?!?!??! RU4REAL?!?!??!?! ROTFLMAO?!?!???!?! TTYL?!?!??!?!??! BFF?!?!??!?!??! AT&T?!?!??!?!??!

This completely ruins any street cred the Camaro could ever hope to achieve and eliminates it from ever being a respectable muscle car. Furthermore, it tarnishes the history of every single Camaro ever produced ever and by extension, the history of the Firebird, too. Might as well slap a Solara badge on it and call it a day.

:lol:
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Come on now, you guys told me that just having the Camaro back on Zeta was the best thing since sliced bread. Is the bread kind of dry now, or are you just Fair Weather Camaro fans? :spin:

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Someday when we're all driving Government issued Corolla Hybrids

all you cna preach to me about the THEORETICAL improved side

impact protection of a 1.5" wide B-pillar made of 1/16th inch of steel

with a fixed (glued in) piece of glass.

It's a free country. I think people with good taste would prefer a true

hardtop. Make fun all you like, I'm passionate about cars. I think 99%

of the populaton considers the Camry a decent, acceptable car, but

that does NOT mean I do not expect more of GM.

Honestly the longer I live the more I am disgusted with the lack of

effort in today's car industry. First it's no two door hardtops, then it's

no four door hardtops, then it's no RWD, then we are told that even

Grand Prixs do not sell well enough in two door (sedans) to make a

business case for a coupe. Then we are told no one wants manual

transmissions anymore.

I'm sick of modern cars being 95% compromise in the name of cost

savings, the stupidity of the general public & safety "advancements".

But hey, laugh it up. People with no standards never get upset about

their expectations being too high.

And as they say: a pessimist is never dissapointed, right? :mellow:

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