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Toyota @ NAIAS '08 Venza Crossover

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Kind of a Camry wagon...maybe they can call it the Camry Venza.

They are building it at Georgetown... :scratchchin:

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I, um, actually kind of like it. This disturbs me. :duck:

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I, um, actually kind of like it. This disturbs me. :duck:

The interior is really nice, actually. Though the shifter placement and design surrounding it is a bit odd. Throws off the symmetry. And I like symmetry in my interior design.

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The front instantly reminded me of the Ford Edge.

If it weren't for the painfully ugly headlights and grille, I kind of like it. It's like a Toyota Forester. Seems like a better option than an SUV, and I'm glad people are giving Wagons some more attention, regardless of make.

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

I bet they will..since it's like a tall wagon version of the Camry.

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And.... Toyota produces another fuel thrifty green beautiful vehicle. :rolleyes:

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Anyone think this will be marketed as the Camry-Venza like the Solara was? It would allow Toyota to continue combining sales under the Camry name.

I wouldn't be surprised if they did market it as another Camry.

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I kind of like it except for the front end. if they fixed that it might look pretty good.

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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Where the **** do their designers get their ideas to design? I think I could be high and drunk and think of a better rear quarter and facial treatment for a vehicle. And that center stack is atrocious.

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to bad they don't want to use GM's truck 4cyl. 2.7 or a 2.9.... hm. you know, trade for the matrix clone deal. lol

it looks to much like the camry to be called something else. but just a little time i looked at it. eh. kinda curious how it'll sell well, since ...all toyota customers that want utility will just buy a rav-4 or highlander or 4-runner... since T can't do wrong, excpet overlap and build hideous vehicles. hahaha

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they market it like an Edge or Murano competitor, but its much more wagony and longer (look at the rear overhang).

thing is, it will sell, its got a "T" on the grille, and its base engine is a 4, which will give this typically undersized frame chassis good mpg, and allow low prices for cheap dumping leases.

this will probably steal more 'family' sales than the edge or the murano. it allows the highlander to continue to be the dud it is, also.

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it looks to much like the camry to be called something else. but just a little time i looked at it. eh. kinda curious how it'll sell well, since ...all toyota customers that want utility will just buy a rav-4 or highlander or 4-runner... since T can't do wrong, excpet overlap and build hideous vehicles. hahaha

I really see this stealing sales from the Camry sedan itself, or possibly Prius if there's a hybrid version (for those who need more room.)

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Aw haaaiilll nah... what is wrong with me... I actually like this new Camry Matrix.:huh:
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Normally I don't like Toyota styling or design, but I actually don't mind this Venza. It's more stylish than the vanilla Toyotas we typically get in the US, and some of the details are quite clever.

A large-displacement four-cylinder has potential in the future, a great idea especially in these types of crossover vehicles, provided NVH can be kept down. A small turbocharged four-cylinder (aka Ecoboost) has a similar use, but it'll likely cost more.

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After looking at it more I don't like it at all. The greenhouse and side glass look good and have potential but the rest is ruined by Toyota's need to design blobs. Everything looks bulbous and the thing looks like it's about to burst at the seams...like it just ate a Corolla.

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Hmmm..well if Venza is to Camry what Taurus X is to Taurus, then ? is to Malibu..(the next Equinox?)

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It's the lovechild of a Camry and a Ford Edge... with a the town whore ES350 being whored on the side. And surprising, it doesn't look that bad, save for the front. From the A-pillar back its decent. I dislike the interior though. Whoever came up with that center stack idea has no idea how to design an interior outside of 90's high-school study hall doodlings.

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Aw haaaiilll nah... what is wrong with me... I actually like this new Camry Matrix.:huh:

A Donnie Iris song applies here.....

"Give him shock treatment, give him one more treatment"

i think the design would come off better had they not resorted to the nasty fender flares on the side. the greenhouse itself is not atrocious. the flanks are flabby.

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Camry Wagon meets IS300 Sportcross.

The car may not be great, but I'm for anything that brings back the Stationwagon...perhaps someone should call Mr. Lutz about rethinking the G8 SW?

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Change the weird front lights, and you got a Murano competitor. Pretty suprised Toyota designed a decent looking vehicle.

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Just a somewhat random comment: It seems crossovers are starting to look more like station wagons now. Perhaps this is to improve MPG, I'm not sure. Regardless, I think it would be smarter for manufacturers to make crossovers look like SUVs. I think the sales charts tell the story, as it seems the more SUV-like the looks, the better the vehicle sells. This is basically a tall wagon instead of a short SUV.

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