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Why so many problems witha NEW car

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I was looking over at Camaro5 site. I cannot beleive how many problems the new Camaros are having. I really figured since the General took so long to release it Quality would be at the top of the list. Sure new cars have problems but some of this stuff would really piss me off if it were my car. Leaking engines, transmissions, interior issues. body fit all kinds of noises etc. This is the last thing Chevy needs and I hope somebody is listening at GM before the general public finds out

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I was looking over at Camaro5 site. I cannot beleive how many problems the new Camaros are having. I really figured since the General took so long to release it Quality would be at the top of the list. Sure new cars have problems but some of this stuff would really piss me off if it were my car. Leaking engines, transmissions, interior issues. body fit all kinds of noises etc. This is the last thing Chevy needs and I hope somebody is listening at GM before the general public finds out

Are these common problems, or a few isolated cases?

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Can we get a few links to these problems?

Glitches often occur in the first year of production anyways, and get ironed out afterwards. I haven't heard of anything widespread, but hopefully GM is taking notice.

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As with any new model vehicle their are always problems. Thats why it's best to wait a while before buying.

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Here is a short list that were all the problems I could find in the last ten days on Camaro5, which is a pro Camaro site.

"my month old car broke already"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29893

"anyone else having transmission issues"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30415

"launch control = epic fail"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30226

"l99 owners with slow car issues"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29948

"so we get stuck with the low end tremec??"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30370

"transmission clicking"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30184

"tranmission clicking when accelerating"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29206

"report on my broken SS"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30120

"my trunk wont open"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29767

"tranmission output shaft problem"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29989

"i have no power!"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26635

"tranmission clicking noise"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28696

"bad paint on new ss"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28641

"more bad paint on cars held in QC"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29737

"whining noise from transmission"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29202

"24 hours old back in the shop!"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29758

"trunk opening issue"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29559

"interior is starting to fall apart?"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28686

"interior panel issues"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27588

"power steering went out and trunk not opening"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28471

"7 day old car wont start!"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28096

"engine keeps dying"

http://camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25608

Some of these are really terrible issues and this is just a small cross section of complaints I've read online. The new Camaro has been disapointing to me so far.

The most common "really really bad" issue is the manual tranny sh!tting the bed, with broken halfshafts amoung other things when launched, especially in conjunction with GMs launch control.

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interesting.

Not enough meaningful information to make any real assessments though.

Except that some transmission castings were bad.

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You know about 13 Tundras had camshaft failures and we made the biggest deal over it.

In either case, that warrants a recall in my book.

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Some of those are really bad. I was a bit amused with the ones regarding the paint, and how people were telling the dude to go to a shop to get it done just so he can keep the low VIN. I think the last thing on my mind in a situation like that would be what order the car came out of the plant.

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Meh...methinks minor teething pains.

My next car may well be a MINI Cooper S...and it took them about two years of production to get them out of EPIC-FAIL mode.

You don't want a 2002 or 2003 Cooper...

GM is having MUCH better luck than BMW did with the MINI. Methinks they will get it sorted out.

Chris

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Reading between the lines, in some cases, these are inexperienced 'children', with an expensive toy, hammering the $h! out of them.

Additionally: It's the Internet where 'truth' is spoken 24 hours-a-day. You never can be certain of anything.

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...and sadly, longtooth...GM buys back some of these cars, which were perfectly good when they left GM...as lemons...

...and I think GM crushes all of their lemon buybacks.

So some of these perfectly good Camaro SS's will go to the crusher just because the owners were idiots.

Chris

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Here's my answer to "I Have NO POWER!". When I bought my '06 GTO with automatic tranny, I took it to the track and was getting beat by stock LS1 f-bodies (great cars by the way). This didn't seem right to me, I sent the PCM to a tuner to have restrictions such as torque management removed. I took it back to the track, I dropped .8 seconds in the 1/4 mile, and was now beating ls1 f-bodies.

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I'd rather be seen sitting in a broken down Camaro SS because I dumped the clutch than seen driving a Hyundai Scoupe.

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I'd rather be seen sitting in a broken down Camaro SS because I dumped the clutch than seen driving a Hyundai Scoupe.

Lmao! So true...

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I'd rather be seen sitting in a broken down Camaro SS because I dumped the clutch than seen driving a Hyundai Scoupe.

genesiscoupe?

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Interesting how so many of them attribute these problems to a first-year model and brush it off. Major part problems / failures, trunk latches and paint issues? Now, I know I'm comparing apples and oranges; however, with how much people have against a foreign car, my wife's first year Optra5 came overseas in a boat from Korea through GMDAT and it didn't have anything as significant wrong with it in the last five years of owning it.

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Reading between the lines, in some cases, these are inexperienced 'children', with an expensive toy, hammering the $h! out of them.

Additionally: It's the Internet where 'truth' is spoken 24 hours-a-day. You never can be certain of anything.

In other words, it's the owners fault, just like the Camry sludge issues were?

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The bottom line here is that we don't have enough information to make any judgement of value.

We should also remember that this car is under a microscope like no other - we will be examining every aspect of it far more than any other car on the market for some time yet.

Hell, each of these problems is being tracked by VIN, and not just by GM - but by enthusiasts on the web!

What counts here is the outcome of each issue and the level of satisfaction of buyers with that outcome.

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Genesis itself is having many problems too, according to the fans. It is a combination of first model year and operator enthusiasm aided with lack of common sense.
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I haven't really been keeping track, has the Challenger had a lot of first year or otherwise problems?

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I've had problems with the transmission in my GTO, so I wouldn't completely dismiss any of this as first year problems.

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It's the suppliers fault. :neenerneener: Hell, works for Toyota!

I, too, am dismayed by these reports. The L99 and the tranny's that are having issues are not NEW engines and transmissions...why the problems? Oil leaks on an LS3 - should NOT be happening...that engine has been in the Corvette now for how long? Have not heard this over on the Vette forums. I could maybe see issues with the rear end or some newer sub assemblies, but to have issues with the KNOWN components really bothers me. The LSx engines have been really reliable and bulletproof from what I have seen.

I have been itching to buy one, but have decided to hold off due to the issues everyone is experiencing. I have enough cars in the 'fleet' now, and really do not need another payment in this economy anyway.

And Dodgefan, not heard anything about the Challenger, however - I spend NO TIME in those forums.

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