Time to start trolling the lots for...

[Blake Noble]

Someone, please, find a way to save that Cutlass. That makes me depressed to think about it.

[Z-06]

This is morbid. Talk about death of beloved cars which were replaced for appliances.

[A Horse With No Name]

Agreed.

We are killing cars built with creativity for crapboxes.

Chris

[XP715]

DEATH WATCH DAY 2:

There was a small glimmer of hope for the Cutlass, but alas, it was not to be. When I got to work this morning, all of the clunkers had been moved to a different area in the lot but the Cutlass was still in the same spot. The keys were in the door so I got in, started her up, and took it for a ride around the lot; it ran and drove great. So I grabbed a salesman and asked him what the deal was and offered him a couple hundred bucks for it, giving him the old line about just selling it to me as-is instead of going through the hassle of prepping it for the auction, blah blah blah. So he writes the stock number down and tells me he'll find out. About a half hour goes by and he comes back and tells me no deal, it's a clunker. It's headed for the pile and I took its hood ornament for a souvenir. I would have bought it on the spot. Tried to save it but was shut down. And another one is gone forever.....

[toesuf94]

DEATH WATCH DAY 2:

There was a small glimmer of hope for the Cutlass, but alas, it was not to be. When I got to work this morning, all of the clunkers had been moved to a different area in the lot but the Cutlass was still in the same spot. The keys were in the door so I got in, started her up, and took it for a ride around the lot; it ran and drove great. So I grabbed a salesman and asked him what the deal was and offered him a couple hundred bucks for it, giving him the old line about just selling it to me as-is instead of going through the hassle of prepping it for the auction, blah blah blah. So he writes the stock number down and tells me he'll find out. About a half hour goes by and he comes back and tells me no deal, it's a clunker. It's headed for the pile and I took its hood ornament for a souvenir. I would have bought it on the spot. Tried to save it but was shut down. And another one is gone forever.....

What were her specs? Miles...photos? Check out the new thread I started...I seriously want to puke after watching videos of the destruction.

[A Horse With No Name]

Hell, the guys on the Jeep Forum seem to be bragging about turning their jeeps in to be crushed.

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/showthread....3562&page=2

And xjoshxx is talking of turning his 87 Monte Carlo V8 in the "cash for clunkers" program to get a new car.

What did the OP on the Jeep forum get in trade for his Nice Ohio built Jeep...A Hyundai...

Amazing.

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

Notice how much Toyota seems to feature as the "new car" in this news thread.

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/video?id=69356...c-video-6935677

...and notice how the "clunkers" are GM.

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

...and yet another Wrangler, with only 90k original miles, bites the dust...

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervi...a073009.article

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

...and while I am post slutting....

This guy FOUGHT THE EPA to get rid of his Jeep...

http://www.cashforclunkersfacts.com/bill/tag/jeep-wrangler

Amazing...

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

...and look in the comments here. Yet another Wrangler dies at the hands of its owner...

http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/27...s-begins-today/

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

And Actually, I didn't know it qualified but I've seen Honda Odyseas at dealerships in this program. Local Ford dealer has a gold one that looks damn near new. Wow!

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

...and another vehicle that suprised me, because it has a big following but...I've seen several Nissan Pathfinders in the program. A few in damn fine shape.

Suprised that resale ona Pathfinder is that low...but I'll gladly kill a pathfinder to use up the cash so Roadmasters and Monte Carlo's can live...

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

This idiot traded in his Monte Carlo for a Hyundai...Moron.

http://www.myfoxphoenix.com/dpp/news/consu..._day_07_27_2009

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

Idiot Honda driving neighbor tells Monte Carlo owner to trade in his Monte in Cash for Clunkers...

Another Moron is born every minute...

http://www.montecarloforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14958

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

A nice old Monte Carlo dies so this woman can have a Corolla...

Amazing...

http://blogs.news12.com/longisland/2009/07...rives-shoppers/

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

The take on this over at GMI (GM Insider news)

http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f19/did...366/index3.html

Chris

Edited July 30, 2009 by 66Stang

[A Horse With No Name]

...and I'll stop post sluting a minute. But I am bothered (obviously) by this program.

However, here is one VERY HAPPY cash for clunker transaction in my mind...you can all laugh...

http://www.xceedspeed.com/forums/showthread.php?t=141801

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

Oh, and if XP715's cutty story makes you sick...read this from the Jeep Forum.

29K original mile Pristine 84 Cutlass destroyed.

Makes me sick.

http://www.jeeppatriot.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22265

I dated my wife in a cutlass like that.

Chris

[A Horse With No Name]

This idiot traded his V8 Firebird for a Prius....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31804730/ns/lo...ws-new_york_ny/

Chris

[Blake Noble]

I hope they all bought a f@#king lemon.

[Camino LS6]

Sad and stupid.

All of it.

[cletus8269]

have no fear gentlemen, i bring thee great tidings of joy

http://www.cheersandgears.com/index.php?sh...mp;#entry524787

[cletus8269]

This idiot traded his V8 Firebird for a Prius....

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31804730/ns/lo...ws-new_york_ny/

Chris

And thanks to a new federal 'Cash for Clunker' law, the 26-year-old from East Brunswick, New Jersey will soon be dumping the V-8 gas hog for a brand new Toyota Prius. That means switching up from trips of about 14 miles to the gallon to about 50 mpg.

"I'm trading in power for practicality," says Ritter.

i'm already questioning his manhood, but i'll be in good company, so will all the girls he knows and doesnt hehehe

[mustang84]

I went to the CARS website and found this

The CARS Act requires that the trade-in vehicle be crushed or shredded so that it will not be resold for use in the United States or elsewhere as an automobile. The entity crushing or shredding the vehicles in this manner will be allowed to sell some parts of the vehicle prior to crushing or shredding it, but these parts cannot include the engine or the drive train.

Perhaps some of these cars can at least become donors for others that need it.

[Blake Noble]

An idea: buy the body for salvage and stuff a new motor and transmission in it.

XP: Hurry, snatch that Cutlass up after the motor is seized and put a new motor in it. Find something like an LT1.

[GMTruckGuy74]

An idea: buy the body for salvage and stuff a new motor and transmission in it.

XP: Hurry, snatch that Cutlass up after the motor is seized and put a new motor in it. Find something like an LT1.

That is a really good idea. Seriously. JUST DO IT!!

[Blake Noble]

It seems I found a loophole.

I wonder, though, does the government record the VIN number and put that specific VIN on something like a "blacklist," preventing the car to be registered?

You know, I might even do that myself with some of the money obtained from the Firebird, if I find the right car to save. Just offer the dealer what the scrapyard would give them for the body, maybe an extra bit of change to boot just so that they can't refuse it.

Edited July 31, 2009 by YellowJacket894

[caddycruiser]

And it's been suspended...

Hopefully for good. I surprised my brother & father tonight about the "rule" regarding seizing the engine and such, and they were beyond enraged. It drummed up a lot of new car sales, which was good, but unnecessarily destroyed some very useful/valuable rides, and moreso has yet to be paid for. Not a good situation to have all these dealers who've cut $3500-4500 off so many contracts and still don't have the actual cash to back that up, or even an idea of when they'll get it. Good going. A news story tonight went to one of the many Hyundai dealers and the sales manager was showing how the site they have to use stopped working and so far they haven't gotten anything, so it was becoming a worry. Gee, I wonder why.

[fightingbee]

Not a good situation to have all these dealers who've cut $3500-4500 off so many contracts and still don't have the actual cash to back that up, or even an idea of when they'll get it. Good going. A news story tonight went to one of the many Hyundai dealers and the sales manager was showing how the site they have to use stopped working and so far they haven't gotten anything, so it was becoming a worry. Gee, I wonder why.

:rotflmao:

There's a couple of Toyota dealers and a Kia dealer around here that I so hope they might "forget" to reimburse. Call it karma.

Edited July 31, 2009 by fightingbee

[toesuf94]

I stopped by the local Chevrolet dealer last night to see what else came in the Clunker lot...they took in a few nice cars last night, although nothing that I would lament seeing parted out and rid the earth of...but I asked the lot owner how they are getting paid. He did not know. So I asked how he gets rid of the cars once they are bought as clunkers...unknown. So I looked him in the eyes and said: "Wait a minute, you are writing contracts on all of these cars which you have valued at $4500 each and you have no idea when you are getting paid or how to get rid of them?!?! His blank stare was great...then I hit him again: "once you destroy the motors, the cars are basically only good for scrap and a few parts, right? Well, lets just say you sit on these for a few months and then the government tells you that they don't have the money to pay you the $4500 for each of these cars - what are you going to do then? You do know that the government is broke, right?--Where is your guarantee that you will be paid?" The color drained from his face and he just looked at me and shook his head and told me he had no idea, but that he had hated the program and that there were too many loose ends in the program, and worse yet, that the government was STUPID enough to not exclude Honda, Toyota and VW. It should have been American owned companies ONLY.

With that said, I think Jeep may be the biggest amount of the cars scrapped on this program - lots of GC's and Cherokees with CFC written on the windows. Some are damned nice!

[XP715]

The House just approved another two billion dollars for this program, and the first round of cars hasn't even been paid for yet:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32228179/ns/business-autos/

It's gonna get reeeeeeeeal ugly!

[Blake Noble]

There should be inspections and strict specific requirements mandated in order for a car to qualify for CFC. It should rank poor on a visual inspection and fail a mechanical inspection done by a reputable service tech. The total amount of the repair costs should exceed a percentage of its KBB value. Only then would this program work and work effectively and correctly, but our politicians are too stupid to do what really needs to be done.

Edited July 31, 2009 by YellowJacket894

[toesuf94]

There should be inspections and strict specific requirements mandated in order for a car to qualify for CFC. It should rank poor on a visual inspection and fail a mechanical inspection done by a reputable service tech. The total amount of the repair costs should exceed a percentage of its KBB value. Only then would this program work and work effectively and correctly, but our politicians are too stupid to do what really needs to be done.

LOGIC LIKE THIS HAS NO PLACE IN GOVERNMENT!!!

Is it not amazing how quickly they can vote to fund this with another $2B in less than 24 hours...yet complain that people are hungry or need medical attention they cannot afford??? there just is no end to the stupidity that is the U.S. government!

[capriceman]

why blow the engine!!! why dont they give them to junkyards and then they can turn profits on them sicne I there are lots of good cars going to waste lots of them are clean.

[Camino LS6]

Just saw quite the display at a nearby Chevy dealer.

They had a big, roll-off, dumpster with a cash for clunkers banner on it. Inside, hanging out of either end was an old F150 and an 80s Volvo sedan.

[Intrepidation]

Don't forget, it's that many less parts cars and donor powertrains for people to keep their older cars running if they don't want to spend 20k+ on a new car and you know, like their current rides.

[!!!TED!!!]

1996 Roadmaster wagon on its last day:

1988 Jeep Cherokee being killed, and fighting to stay alive:

1992 Caprice Wagon's final burnout:

...and untimely death:

2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee killed:

[Intrepidation]

[A Horse With No Name]

With that said, I think Jeep may be the biggest amount of the cars scrapped on this program - lots of GC's and Cherokees with CFC written on the windows. Some are damned nice!

Jeeps are made in Toledo Ohio.

Sad to see so much built in my home state gone to scrap.

I think everyone in Toledo should wear black given the number of good Jeeps killed.

Chris

[CaddyXLR-V]

I've actually started to really like the Grand Cherokees, and I have considered getting a used one. With this insane program I don't think I'll be able to find any cheap ones in good shape.

[A Horse With No Name]

That or a Suburban either one.

Drive past the local Hyundai dealer on the way home. They must have been busy last night. 5 (Yeah 5) additional 'burbans on the dead line, as well as a really nice Grand Cherokee.

Grand Cherokee looked like it was six damn months old. It was a 2000 or something but the damn thing was just flawless.

Chris

[Blake Noble]

I gave the asshole who owned the Roadmaster a piece of my mind. Some nerve he had to post a "farewell" video for a car he willingly destroyed.

[Blake Noble]

If the other videos haven't enraged you to the point of blood-thirst, watch this video:

I hate our f@#king government.

[A Horse With No Name]

I don't hate our government so much as think the plan is misguided.

Why does my local Lincoln-Mercury dealer have 2 CFC cars and my local Hyundai dealer is pushing 35-40?

Lots of families that need new cars are going to get rid of a POS.

Just hate to see something like a Roadmaster die...

Chris

[balthazar]

The impact of removing roughly 750,000 cars from a country with hundreds and hundreds of millions of registered cars is not going to have much of a ripple effect. Countless workable cars go to the scrapper daily- this process is not much different. What will have a larger effect WRT the used car market is the economic contraction of the new car market by a third- that's 5 million less for the future used pool... that's going to raise the average used car price far more than the C4C scenario AFA the cash-strapped consumer is concerned.

Local Chevy dealer has about 10 vehicles of no particular or potential value other than as used cars. Only 1 had even a smidge of interest, and for me it was for design; I'd have no desire to own a circa 110 HP FWD 2-tonner : an '85 Riviera coupe.

Edited August 1, 2009 by balthazar

[fightingbee]

If the other videos haven't enraged you to the point of blood-thirst, watch this video:

I hate our f@#king government.

Interesting considering that Buick's MPG is too high to qualify, and that these days Honda sells the "gas guzzlers" (Ridgeline anyone?), not Buick.

[cletus8269]

here at the KIA dealership.

[fightingbee]

...and all I got was this lousy KIA.

[!!!TED!!!]

The wholesale murder of (in most cases I have seen) working cars, whose biggest flaw is their MPG.

Some very dark events these last few days.

That Cadillac spray painted gets me very mad.

[ocnblu]

I'm very angry at import dealerships who will use this program to taunt the domestic manufacturers. Every Kia 2 years old and older qualifies as a clunker in the true sense of the word, imho.