Blake Noble

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I'm seriously about an inch away from stepping over the line and joining the "I HATE APPLE!" club.

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This is essentially what this man has done:

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You'd think Apple would've learned their lesson from the Newton, but no, no they haven't.

I can't even see how this device would remotely productive in any application. Christ, it can't even support Flash, nor does it have a camera, or media card reader, or USB... You pretty much NEED to have a laptop around in order to maximize any potential this device has.

If you say 'Mac's iPad' kinda fast, it's kinda funny. :P

Oh yeah, Apple sucks.

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My new Lenovo laptop is slightly thicker, slightly heavier, has 9 hours of battery life in the real world, real keyboard, 4 gig ram, 250gig hard drive, real processor, and a real OS.

Cost $635 plus shipping.

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iPad...it's like an iPhone only more expensive and can't do as much.

Macs aren't even great for music recording compared to PC's...the only thing they have (or had, I dunno if its changed) over PCs is that their can match the color settings of the screen to the printer. However the photo lab I worked at used PCs and had programs for calibrating the monitors too.

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Somewhere in the cyber world is a hardware equivalent site of cheersandgears, which in 2052 will post a poster like the one below with Toyota and Toyoda replaced by Apple and Jobs. And the art work will be done by a Linuxfan.

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this thing is awesome for watching movies, videos, surfing, and book reading. why get a Kindle? Perfect device for media on the go. If you want a keyboard, you can get that too. Starts at 500 bucks and way more useful at that price than say, a stupid netbook running xp and 1g of ram.

i'd love to have one. perfect device for my kids to watch movies in the car while traveling. great for surfing while in the rest room.

not every apple device has to be a full on computer. why blow 300 on a kindle when for 200 bucks more you can watch movies and check your email?

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this thing is awesome for watching movies, videos, surfing, and book reading. why get a Kindle? Perfect device for media on the go. If you want a keyboard, you can get that too. Starts at 500 bucks and way more useful at that price than say, a stupid netbook running xp and 1g of ram.

i'd love to have one. perfect device for my kids to watch movies in the car while traveling. great for surfing while in the rest room.

not every apple device has to be a full on computer. why blow 300 on a kindle when for 200 bucks more you can watch movies and check your email?

Because all the movies and stuff you want to do with it have to be bough through apple and it isn't open source. So when Google comes out with their own version, it will be way better.

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this thing is awesome for watching movies, videos, surfing, and book reading. why get a Kindle? Perfect device for media on the go. If you want a keyboard, you can get that too. Starts at 500 bucks and way more useful at that price than say, a stupid netbook running xp and 1g of ram.

i'd love to have one. perfect device for my kids to watch movies in the car while traveling. great for surfing while in the rest room.

not every apple device has to be a full on computer. why blow 300 on a kindle when for 200 bucks more you can watch movies and check your email?

Or get an iPhone...which can do all of that plus be an actual phone for less.

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Or get an iPhone...which can do all of that plus be an actual phone for less.

already have the iphone and appletv. will one day have imac, macbook and one of these things.

the apple products are so nice to use. and i dont sit at the computer to game, so i really don't care about that.

itunes is so easy to buy music and movies and videos from. and i don't steal that stuff off the internet. i don't mind electronic purchasing to itunes and the whole program organizes it simply and slickly and shares between devices in simple effective ways.

they play nice with each other too. my iphone can control my itunes on the computer, or the appletv hooked up to my stereo. no extra stuff to get it work. all on wifi.

you can rent a movie on itunes and play it on the ipad. no disc. you could even watch netflix streaming on the ipad. a terribly useful device, not a throwaway, nice size. its not for everyone, it doesn't need to be.

apple covers what most folks do with computers at home with a few devices.

the simplicity of it all is so worth the cost.

buy an imac, you've got all the software you need.

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Because all the movies and stuff you want to do with it have to be bough through apple and it isn't open source. So when Google comes out with their own version, it will be way better.

i kind of don't care about the open source thing. the apps and products and buying experience all work so well and simple, and gives me what i need. open source to me means more clutter, more confusion, in some instances. i really don't need 20 versions of itunes when the one i have already works exactly the way i want, and will always be top of the class.

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this thing is awesome for watching movies, videos, surfing, and book reading. why get a Kindle? Perfect device for media on the go. If you want a keyboard, you can get that too. Starts at 500 bucks and way more useful at that price than say, a stupid netbook running xp and 1g of ram.

i'd love to have one. perfect device for my kids to watch movies in the car while traveling. great for surfing while in the rest room.

not every apple device has to be a full on computer. why blow 300 on a kindle when for 200 bucks more you can watch movies and check your email?

I agree on the Kindle part, but the netbook you described would be $200, not $500. $500 will get you (as a quick example) a dual core pentium processor, 15.6" screen, 4gb of ram, 250gb hard drive, win7home64, and a DVD burner. I believe the iPad will be a success, but only because there are enough people who don't need a computer that can do much more than surf the internet & play media, and a lot of them are willing to pay the Mac tax in order to have that portability and show off to their friends.

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i kind of don't care about the open source thing. the apps and products and buying experience all work so well and simple, and gives me what i need. open source to me means more clutter, more confusion, in some instances. i really don't need 20 versions of itunes when the one i have already works exactly the way i want, and will always be top of the class.

Open source actually tends to be less clutter, less unnecessary crap, and less resource intensive. iTunes has become so bulky and overwrought in the last few versions. Used to use it, no longer do.

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Apple will sell these, because there will always be tools who think it got an "i" in the name so it must be awesome and who have to have the latest thing...even if they look like dorks holding something like that.

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To be fair to the Kindle I really do like it. My dad bought one when they were first offered in Canada in December and at first my mom and I mocked him for what we perceived as yet another in a long line of frivolous purchases but at the end of the day that screen looks just like real paper. Doesn't strain the eyes the way a computer screen does and hasn't got a harsh back-light.

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I would be interested in buying one once the price goes down. I have an old MacBook right now, and there are instances where I wish it'd behave more like an actual... well, notebook (the paper kind).

For simpler tasks, like taking notes in class, quickly showing pictures to friends, reading a book, or surfing the web during moments of free time, it's nice not having to unzip a laptop case, unfold its screen, wake it up from sleep mode, and wait for the appropriate program (iPhoto, iTunes, MS Word, etc) to load. If it's like an iPhone, those features can be accessed immediately.

And judging by Apple's current products, it's going to be nice looking and well-made, too. I'd personally get the optional case... reminds me of elementary school when I had my Five-Star zip-up binder...

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I would be interested in buying one once the price goes down. I have an old MacBook right now, and there are instances where I wish it'd behave more like an actual... well, notebook (the paper kind).

For simpler tasks, like taking notes in class, quickly showing pictures to friends, reading a book, or surfing the web during moments of free time, it's nice not having to unzip a laptop case, unfold its screen, wake it up from sleep mode, and wait for the appropriate program (iPhoto, iTunes, MS Word, etc) to load. If it's like an iPhone, those features can be accessed immediately.

And judging by Apple's current products, it's going to be nice looking and well-made, too. I'd personally get the optional case... reminds me of elementary school when I had my Five-Star zip-up binder...

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I', not sure why I like that....

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I agree on the Kindle part, but the netbook you described would be $200, not $500. $500 will get you (as a quick example) a dual core pentium processor, 15.6" screen, 4gb of ram, 250gb hard drive, win7home64, and a DVD burner. I believe the iPad will be a success, but only because there are enough people who don't need a computer that can do much more than surf the internet & play media, and a lot of them are willing to pay the Mac tax in order to have that portability and show off to their friends.

and the notebook you describe is a huge brick in comparison. portability of the iPad is more like the kindle or a portable dvd player.

windows products are highly disposable. no one remembers the cheap laptop they bought 3 years ago, its either obsolete by now, or broken.

this device is something that will remain useful longer.

the mactax IMHO only applies to the highest price macbook pros and most optioned up IMacs. if the device is nicer and works better and has more software its not that much of an effective price difference. not all products are sold only on price like GM used to be accused of.

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this thing is awesome for watching movies, videos, surfing, and book reading. why get a Kindle? Perfect device for media on the go. If you want a keyboard, you can get that too. Starts at 500 bucks and way more useful at that price than say, a stupid netbook running xp and 1g of ram.

i'd love to have one. perfect device for my kids to watch movies in the car while traveling. great for surfing while in the rest room.

not every apple device has to be a full on computer. why blow 300 on a kindle when for 200 bucks more you can watch movies and check your email?

No Flash.... meaning no Youtube, no Youporn.

Why get a Kindle or nook? E-ink is readable on the beach, back lit screens, no matter what they are lit by, aren't readable in direct sunlight. e-ink is much easier on your eyes. Kindles and nooks also have free cellular wifi, no data plan to pay.

I have a Lenovo laptop that is marginally larger, 4 gigs of ram Core2Duo processor, Win7 64 bit, full size keyboard, and 260gig HD that only cost $135 more than the very base iPad does. Think Macbook Air at less than half the cost.

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and the notebook you describe is a huge brick in comparison. portability of the iPad is more like the kindle or a portable dvd player.

windows products are highly disposable. no one remembers the cheap laptop they bought 3 years ago, its either obsolete by now, or broken.

this device is something that will remain useful longer.

the mactax IMHO only applies to the highest price macbook pros and most optioned up IMacs. if the device is nicer and works better and has more software its not that much of an effective price difference. not all products are sold only on price like GM used to be accused of.

I was simply pointing out how retarded your comparison of the iPad to a netbook was. A netbook is 2/5 of the price of the entry iPad. For an equal price you get a device that blows the iPad out of the water in every measure of usability except portability. Not sure what your problem is with Windows products (I assume you mean windows-based products, no matter what manufacturer they come from), but I know plenty of people with 5+yr old windows laptops that are still quite functional. I will be replacing the DVD drive on one next week, as everything else on it is working fine and the DVD player only recently decided to quit. Batteries wear out in ~3yrs, but Macs aren't exempt from that. A friend of mine has a macbook whose battery exploded after ~6 months.

Apple makes some good stuff, but quit being such a fanboi. The Mac tax only applies to upper models? Let's look at what you get in a $500 Mac laptop. Oh wait, they don't have one. The Macbook starts at $999, let's look at what you get:

13.3" screen

250gb 5400rpm HD

DVD-RW

2.26ghz Intel Core2Duo

1066mhz FSB

2gb DDR3 ram

NVIDIA GeForce 9400M graphics processor with 256MB of DDR3 SDRAM (sounds like a dedicated graphics card, which is good)

What's a windows-based machine offer for the same money? Here's a quick example from Toshiba, which consistently gets rated very highly for building a quality product.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834114743

16" screen

500gb 5400rpm HD

DVD-RW

2.8ghz Intel Core2Duo

1066mhz FSB

6gb DDR3 ram

NVIDIA GeForce GT 230M 1GB GDDR3 discrete graphics memory (sounds like a much better dedicated graphics card)

So how is the Mac not ridiculously more expensive?

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