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It should be noted Edmunds stole my title idea. Bastards.

Anyway, Chevy's not the only one who's holding off on a firm decision on making a popular concept a production reality. DCX has stated that contrary to rumors of the opposite, Dodge has not taken a stand on reviving the Challenger. They say they are still evaluating the business case and the car has not received the official green light.

Put your tongues back in your mouths for now, Mopar guys.

Read "Dodge Challenges Reports of Challenger Production" @ Edmunds

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I think they should start over and take the Camaro's approach. Make it smaller, sleeker, and lighter, and start with a modern shape and add retro cues, not the other way around.

Everyone says the Camaro won't sell well after a year or so, but the Challenger is even more retro, so wouldn't it sell even worse after a year or two?

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I think they should start over and take the Camaro's approach. Make it smaller, sleeker, and lighter, and start with a modern shape and add retro cues, not the other way around.

Everyone says the Camaro won't sell well after a year or so, but the Challenger is even more retro, so wouldn't it sell even worse after a year or two?

So you are saying to scrap the idea of building it on a current platform, and create a brand new platform that doesn't exist yet.....and that will somehow make the business case to build the car?? :scratchchin:

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So you are saying to scrap the idea of building it on a current platform, and create a brand new platform that doesn't exist yet.....and that will somehow make the business case to build the car?? :scratchchin:

No. There's no reason why it can't be smaller and have more modern proportions. Zeta will have sedans as big as the 300 and Charger (and bigger even), so why can't the LX platform provide a basis for the Challenger that is a similar size to the Camaro? It's 198 inches long and looks like it. It needs to be about 8 or 9 inches shorter (GTO sized) and not be such a remake of the original.

The formula should be/should have been:

Design a sleek modern car without a lot of finished details, basically a blank canvas to apply styling cues to, then, add classic Challenger cues where they work on this new car and get a vehicle that has all the cool retro cues that everyone loves about the Challenger but delievers it in a cool modern shape that so many people complain about the Challenger for. This is basically the formula the Camaro has, and there are far fewer complaints about it.

I have no problem with most of the styling of the Challenger. What I have a problem with is that it looks huge and the proportions are from the 70s. If it was smaller with modern proportions but still had the same styling cues I would probably like it. Someone should chop a Camaro with the Challenger styling to see how much better it would look than the real Challenger.

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all this "corporate talk" is gonna delay production a year. as far as Brampton assembly (most likely assembly plant) knows, nothing is happening as of yet

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I have no problem with the Challenger's size. The sales goal is only going to be around 20,000 to 30,000 per year, and it would be a waste of DC's money to downsize the LX (or LY) platform for a low volume smaller coupe. (And I don't think I am the only one skeptical about 100,000 Camaro sales per year.) Besides I miss the big powerful coupes of the 1960's and 1970's.

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Just corporate talk. It's coming.

Agreed, I'd expected to be tweeked a bit here and there

unlike the Camaro which will probably be Solstice-close

to concept when it reaches showrooms.

I just hope to god it stays a hardtop. Please, Mopar!

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I think they should start over and take the Camaro's approach. Make it smaller, sleeker, and lighter, and start with a modern shape and add retro cues, not the other way around.

Everyone says the Camaro won't sell well after a year or so, but the Challenger is even more retro, so wouldn't it sell even worse after a year or two?

dont forget... the camaro is designed to be 100+k units a year

the challenger... 6k a year :blink:

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I have no problem with the Challenger's size.  The sales goal is only going to be around 20,000 to 30,000 per year, and it would be a waste of DC's money to downsize the LX (or LY) platform for a low volume smaller coupe. (And I don't think I am the only one skeptical about 100,000 Camaro sales per year.)  Besides I miss the big powerful coupes of the 1960's and 1970's.

remember the challenger isnt even supposed to hit that many... the production at that plant is already over 120% if i remember correctly...

and all challengers, if produced would be equipt with v8's and 6 speeds...

its not designed to be a volume car like the camaro is...

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Hey, if 100,000 units fails for Camaro, just design a different front/rear end clip and select interior pieces (and wheels/other exterior pieces), and voila, you could have a new Pontiac Firebird taking up the rest of the slack! (And don't give me the whole cloning/brand-image-non-fitting speech-we all know what's happened in both areas).

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remember the challenger isnt even supposed to hit that many... the production at that plant is already over 120% if i remember correctly...

and all challengers, if produced would be equipt with v8's and 6 speeds...

its not designed to be a volume car like the camaro is...

I don't know percentages, but sales have started to cool off a little, so there is room for 20-30K Challengers

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I think they should start over and take the Camaro's approach. Make it smaller, sleeker, and lighter, and start with a modern shape and add retro cues, not the other way around.

agreed... tho not necessarily smaller just... less of the same challenger we saw 36 years ago...

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Only reason I want to see a new Challenger is to laugh at it at the next red light. In my 6 speed Camaro.

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i have no problem with the charger being large, i have a problem with it being ugly!

anyways, it makes for pretty scenery to pass in a a 6sp 350+hp Camaro.

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i have no problem with the charger being large, i have a problem with it being ugly!

anyways, it makes for pretty scenery to pass in a a 6sp 350+hp Camaro.

How do you plan on passing a 6 speed 425 HP Challenger with a 350 HP Camaro??? :huh:

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How do you plan on passing a 6 speed 425 HP Challenger with a 350 HP Camaro???   :huh:

Well the Camaro is going to have more than 350HP, but a 350HP Camaro won't beat the Challenger in a straight line unless it's a lot lighter than we think it's going to be. Any Camaro with 400+HP should smoke the Challenger though, unless DCX figures out how to give the Challenger liposuction.

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Well the Camaro is going to have more than 350HP, but a 350HP Camaro won't beat the Challenger in a straight line unless it's a lot lighter than we think it's going to be. Any Camaro with 400+HP should smoke the Challenger though, unless DCX figures out how to give the Challenger liposuction.

yeah but then there is the talk of the SS and R/T versions of both respectively having approx: 5-600 horse for the top models. that is one competition i would love to be present for.

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On a side note...recently at a Crystal Cove meet a guy on the forums I go to snapped pics of a Challenger which showed up...I'll try to find the pics if anyone is interested...

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Uh...wouldn't this 425hp Challenger be the one with the 6.1L? If that's the case, then that would probably end up being the SRT-8 version, and even by that time It'll probably have even more than that on tap. The R/T would most likely have the 5.7L with 350hp. I assume the lineup is going to be just like the Charger/Magnum/300's minus their base 6-cyl. The 6.1 was just in the show car, folks. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the volume engine for the V8 models.

Anyway if that be the case, which I'm sure it will be, the Camaro crew has nothing to worry about.

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Uh...wouldn't this 425hp Challenger be the one with the 6.1L? If that's the case, then that would probably end up being the SRT-8 version, and even by that time It'll probably have even more than that on tap. The R/T would most likely have the 5.7L with 350hp. I assume the lineup is going to be just like the Charger/Magnum/300's minus their base 6-cyl. The 6.1 was just in the show car, folks. That doesn't necessarily mean it'll be the volume engine for the V8 models.

Anyway if that be the case, which I'm sure it will be, the Camaro crew has nothing to worry about.

The concept car was the 6.L, and was called an R/T. The SRT-8 (or SRT-10 :scratchchin: ) Challenger could be a version of the 392 ci HEMI crate engine that they showed at NAIAS, or a Viper engine for an SRT-10??

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