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If you were hoping that Chevrolet would bring the house down next month with the debut of the mid-engine Corvette at the Detroit Auto Show, we have some bad news for you.

GM Authority has learned from GM that Chevrolet isn't planning to show anything car or crossover related at the show. Motor Authority was able to confirm this report by speaking to sources who know GM's plans for future vehicles. It is expected that the Cadillac XT6 crossover will debut at the show.

Rumor has it that GM could debut the mid-engine Corvette at the New York Auto Show - the original 1953 Corvette debuted at the Motorama event that year in New York - or hold its own event to have the media focus on the new model and nothing else. The latter option seems the most likely to us.

We'll keep you posted if anything changes.

Source: GM Authority, Motor Authority


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Maybe they are hurriedly redesigning the mid engine Corvette to be a CUV. ;)

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Maybe a Family of Mid engine Corvette auto's? ;) 

Maybe they are planning to shelve the Ice version and go all EV! :P 

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Instead of a low volume niche mid engined model, they probably should have done a high performance crossover.  Something to compete w/ the Cayenne.  

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11 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

Instead of a low volume niche mid engined model, they probably should have done a high performance crossover.  Something to compete w/ the Cayenne.  

It cannot be named Corvette.  Now a Cadillac that competes with the Cayenne is a great idea.

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8 minutes ago, riviera74 said:

It cannot be named Corvette.  Now a Cadillac that competes with the Cayenne is a great idea.

No reason it couldn't be named Corvette.  Porsche has sports cars and SUVs.  i like the idea of a family of Corvette models--front engine sports car like the C7,   mid engine sports car like the C8, a performance SUV, maybe a EV sports car, maybe a hypercar.   And within VWAG, Porsche coexists w/ Audi and higher brands.    Corvette could be relative to Cadillac how Porsche is to Audi.

The idea of a multi-model Corvette line is an old one, I remember seeing the idea proposed in Car & Driver maybe 20 years ago. 

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59 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

No reason it couldn't be named Corvette.  Porsche has sports cars and SUVs.  i like the idea of a family of Corvette models--front engine sports car like the C7,   mid engine sports car like the C8, a performance SUV, maybe a EV sports car, maybe a hypercar.   And within VWAG, Porsche coexists w/ Audi and higher brands.    Corvette could be relative to Cadillac how Porsche is to Audi.

The idea of a multi-model Corvette line is an old one, I remember seeing the idea proposed in Car & Driver maybe 20 years ago. 

Multiple lines of Corvette was there as a concept from the beginning. It was nearly its own brand of cars inside the Chevy brand.

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Chevy dealers would never allow a Corvette brand to happen, because it would mean they lose the Corvette and that "Corvette" brand would then get pushed to the Cadillac dealer channel.  I can't see them doing stand alone Corvette dealers.

The Detroit auto show has also lost a lot of luster, so I think they'll put this car out at another time.

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30 minutes ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Corvette can be a sub-brand inside Chevy.

Because Chevy dealers are equipped to provide a sales and service experience similar to Porsche dealers?

Although you could argue that all 4 GM brands should offer a dealership experience to rival Porsche, customer service doesn't really need to be reserved for just a luxury brand. 

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10 hours ago, smk4565 said:

Because Chevy dealers are equipped to provide a sales and service experience similar to Porsche dealers?

Although you could argue that all 4 GM brands should offer a dealership experience to rival Porsche, customer service doesn't really need to be reserved for just a luxury brand. 

There are Chevy dealers that get special treatment based on the number of Corvettes they sell... or the number of Silverados they sell.  A Corvette sub-brand "boutique"* inside of certain dealers would work. That's how Genesis launched.

 

*I hate that word in regards to buying cars. 

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The Genesis launch has also been a total botch job by Hyundai.   

I don’t see the crowd that is considering a Porsche, AMG or Alfa Romeo/Maserati walking into a Chevy dealer to check out a Corvette sedan or Corvette SUV.  

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4 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

The Genesis launch has also been a total botch job by Hyundai.   

I don’t see the crowd that is considering a Porsche, AMG or Alfa Romeo/Maserati walking into a Chevy dealer to check out a Corvette sedan or Corvette SUV.  

If the product is good enough, they will come.  But it isn't happening anyway. 

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Having a 'Corvette SUV' is EXACTLY like having a '911 SUV'.
As much as people may espouse the 'brand within a brand' ideal, it's not viable or sensible, IMO.

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Said it before and I'll say it again.. having both of these brands.. er.. all three.. U see the differences. Cadillac dealer is all accommodating.. Chevy dealer is not. Only when I go in with a $60-$100K Corvette do they roll out Orange carpet. That is inconsistent with the fact that one can now purchase $80K Camaros and Tahoe/Suburbans/Silverados from the place.. but hey.. Chevy is the Every man brand at GM the same as Ford, Toyota, Honda are.

Again.. the Corvette should be a separate brand in a partitioned off dealership spot at Chevy or CADILLAC if enthusiasts aren't allowed to make the decision. If Enthusiasts have to have Corvette at Chevy.. then partition it off..  and treat them with the same love one gets at Cadillac. Corvettes are not cheap. They are a vehicle selling for $60K to a soon to be $150K. This is about $5-7K less than your Porsche line-up unless U get into the E-Hybrid models.. Which GM should be gearing up to do. People want to say that "No one will spend $150K on a Vette..." FUUCK outta here. They can and THEY WILL.

I have to constantly remind people.. some of my colleagues have Porsches. Its THEIR ONLY car, even the 911 and the Cayman/Boxster owners. Some might have a beater that is 10 years old.

Vette owners very seldom have just a Vette as their DD. Most that I know also own a Silverado/Sierra, Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade or something else as a daily. Normally they are no more than 5 years old if that. I don't even drive my Vette or V in the rain or when it looks like its gonna rain cause I don't want to get it dirty. Many who own a Vette as a toy have the same mind set. Meaning.. THEY HAVE MONEY. They needed to be catered to just like the cats at Caddy.. which ironically sells at the same price point as CORVETTE. My Z06 retailed for the exact same as my CTS-V. Bet good money that the CT6-V comes in priced like a ZR1, which will still be less expensive than a B7 Alpina by about $17K

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Corvette is not a brand though it is a model.  I don’t see any calls for an Escalde brand with sports coupes and sedans.  Porsche was always a brand with multiple models.  

I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car, or performance SUVs or the stuff you need to challenge Porsche, Aston Martin, Maserati, Ferrari or whoever you want to throw in there.  Cadillac is GM’s top brand (or at least it is supposed to be).  Cadillac should have the super cars, hyper cars, Tesla Model S fighter, Bentley Bentayga or Aston Martin SUV fighter etc.  

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10 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car...

I've read elsewhere that it may, in fact, be happening. Let's see.

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25 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

Corvette is not a brand though it is a model.  I don’t see any calls for an Escalde brand with sports coupes and sedans.  Porsche was always a brand with multiple models.  

I question why Cadillac isn’t getting this mid engine super car, or performance SUVs or the stuff you need to challenge Porsche, Aston Martin, Maserati, Ferrari or whoever you want to throw in there.  Cadillac is GM’s top brand (or at least it is supposed to be).  Cadillac should have the super cars, hyper cars, Tesla Model S fighter, Bentley Bentayga or Aston Martin SUV fighter etc.  

Corvette, over the last 10 years, has had as many models as Porsche ever did in the pre-Cayenne days. REGARDLESS... we have a Stingray, GS, Z06, and ZR1 currently.. this MID-Engine will essentially give us 4 different body styles.. as the only two body styles currently identical are the GS and Z06. So why not make it a Sub-Brand somewhat autonomous? 

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2 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

Corvette, over the last 10 years, has had as many models as Porsche ever did in the pre-Cayenne days. REGARDLESS... we have a Stingray, GS, Z06, and ZR1 currently.. this MID-Engine will essentially give us 4 different body styles.. as the only two body styles currently identical are the GS and Z06. So why not make it a Sub-Brand somewhat autonomous? 

Those are all trim levels aside from the mid-engine car that we haven’t seen the final deal yet.  Porsche currently makes 23 models of the 911, I just counted them on their website.  Before the Cayenne Porsche had the 944 the 928, 968, 959, etc, they always had several cars other than maybe in the 60s or 70s. 

For Corvette to be a brand they would need at least 2 SUVs and what platform would those go on?  They would need an entry level sports car, and a sedan or Panamera/AMG GT sedan fighter to go with the current Corvette and the mid-engine car.  All of those would be slotted above Cadillac yet sold at Chevy dealers?   Good luck trying to sell an Equinox sized Corvette SUV at a Chevy dealer for $75,000 which Cadillac dealers are charging $40k for a crossover of that same size.

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1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

Those are all trim levels aside from the mid-engine car that we haven’t seen the final deal yet.  Porsche currently makes 23 models of the 911, I just counted them on their website.  Before the Cayenne Porsche had the 944 the 928, 968, 959, etc, they always had several cars other than maybe in the 60s or 70s. 

For Corvette to be a brand they would need at least 2 SUVs and what platform would those go on?  They would need an entry level sports car, and a sedan or Panamera/AMG GT sedan fighter to go with the current Corvette and the mid-engine car.  All of those would be slotted above Cadillac yet sold at Chevy dealers?   Good luck trying to sell an Equinox sized Corvette SUV at a Chevy dealer for $75,000 which Cadillac dealers are charging $40k for a crossover of that same size.

So by that U are saying that before the Cayenne.. Porsche was NOT a brand. hmmmm END OF DISCUSSION.. Go back to Germany KrautBoy

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On 12/11/2018 at 6:21 PM, dfelt said:

Maybe a Family of Mid engine Corvette auto's? ;) 

Maybe they are planning to shelve the Ice version and go all EV! :P 

Doubtful. 

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2 hours ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

So by that U are saying that before the Cayenne.. Porsche was NOT a brand. hmmmm END OF DISCUSSION.. Go back to Germany KrautBoy

That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

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8 hours ago, smk4565 said:

That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

Yes, Porsche has always been a brand--whether an independent company or owned by VWAG as they are now.  No one sane would argue that.   On the other hand, Corvette is a model with different trim levels within the Chevrolet brand.  That is the distinction.  

At some points in time Porsche had only one street model--like in the 356 era, but after the 911 came out, they had periods of time with only 2 street models--like in the late 60s with the 911 and 912, the early 70s with the 911 and 914, the late 90s with the 911 and Boxster.  And of course many trim levels within those models.   Like the modern 911 which often has 20-24 trim levels in any particular year--in comparison to the Corvette which has 4 currently (base, Z06, GS, ZR-1?)

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9 hours ago, smk4565 said:

That is the opposite of what I was saying.  Porsche has always been a brand, they had the 911, 944/968 and 928 all in production at the same time.  For most of their history that hav had 3-4 different vehicles in their line, it has just grown now with 6.

Look slim.. I'm American unlike U and still know Porsche's history due to racing.. but I don't sip the Weihenstephaner Hefeweissbier flavored water the way U do.. 

Your rational... as I have explained.. the Corvette sub-division CURRENTLY has 4 distinct Corvettes under its umbrella. The Stingray, which has trims as well, different engine and transmission tuning, and price point. The GS.. also different trims, same engine, but distinct body and suspension tuning, and price point. The Z06.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. And the ZR1.. different trims, different racing apparatus, different drivetrains, suspension tuning, unique body, and and price point. Chevy doesn't say it.. but that my young knabe.. is a BRANDED vehicle. Not to mention that many people who are not enthusiasts think that CORVETTE is an independent vehicle similar to Porsche and Ferrari. THIS IS FACT.  If Chevy were to continue with the FE Corvette, while still offering the ME design.. its a done deal.. and we will have a genuine 4th American GM Division. I also point out that for all intents.... the Camaro has been primed to take over the head job at Chevy since the C5 debuted in 2010

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      Inside, Cadillac has upped their game on the quality of the materials, but they phoned the styling in. As some readers have pointed out, it even appears as if some trim pieces have been repurposed from the CTS. There is a large tablet stuck to the dash for the infotainment system, which is thankfully no longer the old CUE system. It looks to be similar in function and layout to those found in GMC's trucks. I have found that system to work well, so I don't see any problem there. A large dial in the center console can control the unit as well, useful if you're wearing gloves.  Capacitive touch buttons have been replaced by real physical buttons. They are well weighted and feel substantial, indeed even Mercedes-like for the HVAC controls.    Cadillac took to heart all of the criticism over their gauges in the previous cars and produced a good looking set of round dials for tach and speedometer with a driver information screen between.  The seats are firm and supportive, getting into position is quick and easy, but they don't match the 24+ way seats that Lincoln is offering these days.  Rear seat room has improved dramatically over the ATS, though feels about the same as a CTS.  Cadillac's Precision Control Shift is there.  I've found it annoying to use, but it has a similar operation to the BMW gear control that many people like, so maybe it is just me.  I think Cadillac (and everyone else) should chuck the shifter knob on their cars and go to something more digital.  One piece of technology in the CT5 that I really love is Cadillac's SuperCruise.  I've used SuperCruise to drive from Pittsburgh to New York, roughly 350 miles, and I was only actively piloting the car for about 10% of the time. 
      Engines in the CT5 seem to be introductory offers, but there is also room to grow. The base engine is a 2.0 liter twin-scroll turbo producing 237 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque. That's a bit light for the class.  The optional engine is a 3.0 liter twin-turbo making 335 horsepower and 400 lb-ft of torque.  Both engines are mated to a 10-speed automatic with all-wheel drive optional. Both engines also have displacement on demand and can shut down cylinders to conserve fuel in light-load situations.  Cadillac has plenty of room to maneuver here with engines though. For future versions like V-Sport and V-Series, they have the 400hp version of the 3.0TT, or the 420hp 3.6TT, or the new 4.2 liter Blackwing when more performance is called for.  
      Overall, this could be a very compelling car starting at $34,995 and being as long as a Mercedes-Benz E-Class. That's where the size issue comes in. Cadillac would have a hard time moving this CT5 if they price it alongside the same size German models. If this is going to be Cadillac's strategy, offer the biggest car for the price, then they need to drum that mindset into the heads of consumers. That takes advertising dollars.  Otherwise, they are just going to be repeatedly compared to vehicles outside of their price class and lose in every comparison test.  The CT6 being priced just $1,000 more than an E-Class leads me to believe this is what they are intending to do.   
      Read other First Impressions from the New York International Auto Show below:
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    • By Drew Dowdell
      According to GM Authority, the Chevrolet Traverse is dropping the 2.0T from the lineup and is already no longer available for ordering.  The move means that the only available powertrain for the Traverse is the 310 horsepower V6 paired with a 9-speed automatic.  
      The 2.0T was introduced in the 2018 model year only on the RS model which had a slightly sportier flair than the regular Traverse.  We wonder though if this signals a move by Chevy to use the new TriPower 2.0T that is found in the Cadillac XT4 and was recently announced to be going into the 2020 GMC Acadia.  So don't be surprised if there is an announcement from Chevy soon. 

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