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  1. 6 interior colors available. go to the configurator at Chevy.com, leave the spoiler off, looks great
    5 points
  2. 16 exterior colors, 6 interior colors, 0-60 under three seconds. Under $60,000 base price.
    5 points
  3. The convertible looks sharp also. I like the looking down on from above angle.
    4 points
  4. I always immensely enjoy when local Posrche club has autocross event together with everybody else at a local SCCA club. Seeing these self important dentists and financial brokers in their 911 get killed in cars that costs fraction of the cost of their cars is always a great pleasure. You maybe can buy 911 or Ferrari but you can't buy skill.
    4 points
  5. I imagine they could price the Corvette at $25,000 and most Porsche owners and no Ferrari owners are not going to buy one. To them it is about owning a Ferrari, not about performance per dollar. Corvette is trying to get the top end Camaro buyers for when that car dies, tempt people to spend a little more for a Vette rather than buy a Supra, or Mustang. Maybe try to steal some M4 or Audi TT buyers since TT is getting killed.
    4 points
  6. There is absolutely no point in getting in F1. The costs alone are astronomical. Marques with a history in F1 get preferential treatment and budgets, the series has been in a turn down for several seasons now, and most likely GM wouldn't be successful, even if they DID throw the necessary money at it.
    3 points
  7. • I question how many buyers of exotics continue to repeatedly only buy from that 1 brand. I know there are hardcore fans of each out there who do, I wonder what percentage of overall buyers. Because another brand will NEVER sway those buyers- they're 'off the table' as far as conquest sales go / an OEM is wasting their time chasing them. A hardcore Corvette buyer is never going to consider a ferrari, either. • Where OEMs should / are focusing is the new or non-loyal buyer, the one who considers -not the badge- but the merits of the vehicle. That's where a brand new C8 is high on the list of contention for a WIDE variety of reasons. That's a winning formula for conquests.
    3 points
  8. More like 911's and AMG GT's. A 60k Mustang and Camaro eat Supras as it is.
    3 points
  9. What does service have to do with it; I can get a Jeep serviced at a Chevy dealer. Are there any Chevy emblems or nameplates on a Corvette?
    3 points
  10. I hope so. Those harsh lessons of too little differentiation and too many brands must never be forgotten.
    2 points
  11. No, it’s a convertible. Look at the pics of the regular targa w/ the fixed rear window and bar where the rear hatch/engine cover is hinged. The convertible version probably works like a Ferrari 488 Spyder or various Lambos—the section with the headrest fairings flips backward and the top folds into a well between the seats and engine. Pretty standard approach for convertible versions of modern mid-engined sports cars. The Jalopnik article shows the differences in the rear structure between the coupe and convertible. The pics below are from that article--convertible in green, coupe/targa in red. https://jalopnik.com/heres-a-first-look-at-the-new-corvette-convertible-1836527053
    2 points
  12. Toyoter couldn't handle 3 brands, it's not going to buy 2 more.
    2 points
  13. What a lazy statement. Apple could buy all the German brands but would it mean anything? No and neither would Toyotas ability to hypothetically buy Ford. That’s just lazy talk when your previous arguments haven’t worked. Two things. The domestics will probably never get the mainstream market and the Japanese and Germans will never get the American full size truck market. You call Toyota lazy but at least they have the ability and the means to build their own truck without borrowing someone else’s truck just to watch it turn into yet more vapor ware.
    2 points
  14. And Apple could buy Ford, GM, and FCA and look where their automobile efforts landed because they realized it isn't as easy as they thought. Best in class does not mean best in sales. That's been gone over at least a million times already. Wasn't the Tundra best in class in 07-08 when it first came out? YUP.
    2 points
  15. Two things. First, you assume that those German and Italian buyers won’t look at the Vette because of its price while I’m willing to bet that more will look at and probably buy this one than you think if they get behind the wheel of it. Second, when the higher performance models come out (and they will), the first point becomes even more relevant. If I was GM, I would market this directly against that Euro Trash (especially the Italians) without ever advertising price or value. Advertise it strictly on it’s driving and performance merits while emphasizing the new look of it.
    2 points
  16. At my local Cadillac dealership for an oil change on the SS. Watched them prep this and move it in for sale. According to my sales rep, was traded in for a CT6 Blackwing.
    2 points
  17. I definitely believe a badge snob will let the Chevy part hold it back. It's a Chevy and not a Porsche. That's just how it's going to be.
    2 points
  18. It goes even deeper; it’s such an ingrained Americana thing that it doesn’t have to be One Brand Only, but it sure as hell is unlikely to be a Japanese brand.
    2 points
  19. Sounds like you’re gonna save your loose change and get a new corvette when it’s out!
    2 points
  20. Yup, his brand has like 1 trim of vehicle that will be able to hold a candle to whatever trim Vette throws down all while having like 10 priced above it. Even the AMG GT R isn't as quick as the C8, taking both manufacturers for their word.
    2 points
  21. I love how you continue to shift the insults around. From your first post about monochromatic interiors, which was wrong btw, to your historical posts about its six figure pricing (also wrong), to who you think buys a Vette, you just go out of your way to slam it. Guess that’s the reality of seeing a domestic sports car that is going to eat the Germans lunch for far less coin so you have to pretend that there are these imaginary flaws that make it less than what it is.
    2 points
  22. Such an old white guy thing to say...
    2 points
  23. GM still does -at times- some of the World's best styling. WRT to the above pic; very artful combination of suble and sharp lines and gentle radiuses. The venting inboard of the 'flying buttress' C-pillars is well done; some excellent surface transitioning overall.
    2 points
  24. Wow, I am more than pleased with this. It still embodies what a Corvette should be... a halo car for Chevrolet. It is still a bit humble/corny/"American", with a stupendous measure of performance, and the starting price just puts icing on the cake. I was prepared to pan it as too foo-foo for a Corvette, too Euro-centric, but it wears our flag on its sleeve so proudly, and that aspect endears it to me instantly. It is one of those designs that bonds immediately to the viewer... not every vehicle is able to do that... there is an adjustment period often required. Not here. Not with me. I've already built "mine" (and I will wear that configurator out again and again), with no goofy wing to distract from that perfect ass. I hope they sell the heck out of them. I can learn a frickin' row of buttons, the buttons do not scare me.
    2 points
  25. Should have been like a beacon in the night lol Haha... somebody's fired. That is not the hierarchy we are looking for!
    2 points
  26. It’s not a Chevrolet tho; it’s The Corvette.
    2 points
  27. Picked this up, thought it might be cool on the B-59 key chain.
    2 points
  28. Why is a mid-engine Corvette bad/wrong?
    2 points
  29. Twizzlers are "dangerous." Twizzlers on sale are even more so.
    2 points
  30. Then I repeat the “holy hell” remark regarding the river on buttons. Why GM? Why?
    2 points
  31. @dfelt It's not like it doesn't say hybrid on the side..... oh wait! It does!
    2 points
  32. The time has come for the Corvette to mid-engine architecture. Powering the Corvette is a 6.2 liter V8 LT2 making and SAE certified 495 horsepower and 470 lb-ft of torque when equipped with an optional exhaust system. In Z51 form, the car is expected to hit 60 mph in less than 3 seconds. The base output of the engine has not been revealed yet. The LT2 engine is based on the LT1 with a new aluminum block. This new engine features a dry-sump oiling system and three scavenger pumps to fight oil starvation in high-G maneuvers on a track. People looking for three pedals will be disappointed to find that no manual transmission will be offered. Instead an 8-speed dual clutch automatic will take over shifting duties and likely execute them faster than any human could. The DCT is setup with a low first gear for quick take off and tall seventh and eighth for fuel economy. The gears in between are close ratio to keep the engine strongly in the power band. Those who want a removable roof will be happy to find that option still there and can be stored in the rear compartment. There will be 3 interior seat options, six interior colors, six seat-belt colors, and two optional stitching packages. The suspension is a double-wishbone design with oil over dampers, while the Z51 package gets magnetic ride control. A front lift system can lift the nose and use GPS to mark the location where you lifted the nose for future use. An electric brake system is more precise and is tunable by the driver. All Stingrays get an electronic limited-slip differential. The front trunk and rear trunk combined can handle 12.6 cubic feet of cargo space. The structure of the Stingray built from high-pressure diecast aluminum and has a carbon fiber rear bumper. Pricing will start at less than $60,000. View full article
    1 point
  33. The Corvette has been successful in sports car racing, I assume the C8 will competing also. F1 has sadly become a deeply dull snore fest of ugly cars, boring tracks, and predictable outcomes. And as a 40 yr F1 fan, it’s sad.
    1 point
  34. I'll be crucified for this, but I don't really care. Performance per dollar aside, I'm very disappointed. Though it looks better than I feared it would, it is still an unattractive car. I would struggle to think of another mid-engine car on sale that looks as bad. It it not cohesive, many of the details are fussy and look cheap, the rear end is visually massive, the proportions aren't great, and it doesn't identify as a Corvette to me. It really reminds me of like the generic cobbled together designs you see on racing games that don't have licensing rights like Burnout or Grand Theft Auto. As for the interior, it actually looks quite good and of good quality. I think the strip of buttons and the wall below it was a major oversight, but hey. The powertrain is another area I find to be lacking, at least on paper. I thought they were going to a DOHC design here, but it's no biggie. The lack of a manual is far more concerning. I give them credit for at least pursuing a proper dual clutch trans, and being a Tremec unit, I don't doubt its quality, but no manual offering is a slight against enthusiasts. Seems an odd omission for what has traditionally been lauded as a rather raw and visceral car. Overall, I think they transitioned to this designed with better adherence to their value quotient and marketplace positioning than expected, but I think there's some shortcoming, and I am very eager to see if any of the engineering challenges they reportedly faced during development made their way through to production. With no real experience building mid-engine cars, they certainly have some risk here. I guess time will tell.
    1 point
  35. 1 point
  36. You are talking about the targa top (removable roof panel) version, not the convertible. I was talking about the convertible, which doesn't have a see through panel..(the dark green car in the pics I posted).
    1 point
  37. Just finished a test drive in the all new XT6. Looks much better in person, front end reminds me too much of the Blazer. Get up and go is great, auto really moves for AWD sport edition that I drove. Fit n Finish is very good, just found a few things that most people would not notice. The CUV is very sharp looking and it will sell in decent numbers for Cadillac. Once the front seat is set for me, the back seat I can get into, but I straddle the front seat. Shame for us big guys the interior is so tight. Nav is snappy and responsive, over all it worked relaxing well. Found no problem with the transmission as it was silky smooth in up-shifts and down. They have a winner winner chicken dinner on their hands in a battle for who has the best steak meal. Sad. I will say I am very disappointed in the presentation of the Engine bay. They really should have had a better cover over everything. Also, this would then cover up the single hood strut support point you can see affixed I. The upper right corner to the strut column. I get it that in lower trims this gets a single.shock to hold open the hood, but it should not be there on this cadillac. Have to say this was a very nice fully loaded XT4, but with custom grill package and custom wheel package, $56k is way too much.
    1 point
  38. I think for a lot of people that are buying a Ferrari, it is their fourth, fifth and n-th car. It is very possible that these people that bought a quarter million Ferrari to carefully garage it and occasionally drive it to a local golf club would be interested in the "cheap" sub 100k mid-engine Vette that they can actually not to be afraid to drive in anger.
    1 point
  39. Nope NEVER gonna happen, Toyota is missing a very important DNA link to get a full size Body on Frame truck right. Called Red Neck DNA which is missing from the Japanese society. Without this, they will never understand the individualistic nature of die hard, hard core Truck buyers that will never leave their birth truck for another brand.
    1 point
  40. Non-sequitor. Saying Ferrari has been owned by Fiat is like saying Chevrolet is owned by GM. Ferrari is a multi model brand of vehicles, the Corvette is a single model within the Chevrolet brand. And besides, Ferrari is an independent company now (since 2016).
    1 point
  41. At least if you have a problem you can save time and money by buying malibu taillamps instead.
    1 point
  42. I can't say I love the look but it is still looks like a Corvette and it is a cool looking mid engine supercar that starts at $60k! Even with options at $70-80k it probably will smoke most of the stuff coming out of Germany and Italy that costs three times as much. Good for GM for pulling it off, I really hope it justifies the hype. I am doubly excited not because I will be able to afford even the base C8 Corvette but because I think at this price point most of the Vette crowd will flock to get it, dumping the C6 and C7 which means in the next year there should be very good deals that might allow me maybe to grab one at a price point I can afford. I would love to have C6 Z06 or C7 GS.
    1 point
  43. Which dealership sells and services it? And it actually is and has always been a Chevrolet.
    1 point
  44. overcooked like the current corvette and camaro. damn. a strip of buttons? a touchscreen that looks like a tablet somebody dropped there? it doesnt say corvette when i look at it. at all. the recent chevy design language has got to go. all angles and fake vents, no elegance. this design will age quickly and badly like the current camaro. they botched it. at a time when they absolutely HAD to hit a home run. performance will probably be remarkable, but what does it matter when you look like that.
    1 point
  45. I like it, but those center console buttons are a joke. How is that intuitive at all to hit anything specific while driving?!
    1 point
  46. Designers: How many buttons should we have on this column? GM: Yes
    1 point
  47. Badge engineering is still bad. GM still needs to better differentiate between a Chevrolet from a GMC from a Buick from a Cadillac. That should be easier than it was pre-BK when GM had EIGHT BRANDS!
    1 point
  48. I think GM is returning to its roots of using the same platform for a gazillion different vehicles that really aren't that different when you boil them down. Blazer, Traverse, Enclave, Acadia, XT5, XT6.... and now there's word of another Buick SUV coming between Enclave and Envision. Trailblazer, Trailblazer EXT, Envoy, Envoy EXT, Envoy XUT, Ascender, Bravada, Rainier, 9-7x
    1 point
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