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This Jeep FC double cab at SEMA is pretty cool..

...Mercedes also had a 6.2 and it was as glorious as they come.

I cannot dispute that point of view. However, it doesn't seem like an unjust law, to me.

^ No; I screwed that one up (Miura). In looking at Maserati images, I guess I would gravitate toward the vintage 3500 GT; it looks to have borrowed heavily from the '55 T-Bird. But the modern stuff, design-wise, is just so... regular.

As far as this Alfa nonsense goes, the smartest thing FCA can do is to dump Alfa and Fiat in the US and out those resources back into their domestic holdings (and not just Jeep and RAM for once).

I am going to take my whole family to see it. Can't wait ?

Again, the rental agency was out of compacts and I got upgraded. I jumped up 2 categories, into a Toyota Camry SE with less than 10,000 miles. I never recall liking Camrys, thinking back to when I was given keys to a late 1990s model and the vague and boring motoring experience that came with that. The Camry has come a long way. I didn't fall in love with this car, but I'd have to say I liked most things about it. First, from once being a boring looking vehicle, most vantage points on this vehicle are flattering and much better than they've been in past model years. The only exception is the grille. Toyota can't seem to separate itself from the abrasive, overwrought shovel nose front grilles it shares with its relative, the Lexus. However, the subtly curved lines all around are a welcome relief. They are seen in the side profile, mostly along the belt line, and even on the trunk lid, rear fascia, and rear tail lamps. The interior gets a thumbs up in terms of the seating and the amount of space. For a person of average proportions, the front seats with a decent amount of bolstering and nice scooped inset areas are comfortable. On the Camry SE, there's a horizontally ribbed material in the inset that is unusual and that I can't quite make out. Looking at LEs on lots while I had this rental, the shape of the seats is the same, except that they are upholstered all the way around in a mouse fur type cloth. The leather wrapped steering wheel feels good and does not have the squared off bottom. The instrument panel and how you interface with it is mostly a fail. In the cluster in front of you, the speedometer and tach are "normal." However, the temperature and fuel gauges are not. The tank holds a respectable 16 gallons, yet the way the fuel gauge moves downward as one starts using up the tank is in no way proportionate to what is really going on. Part of it can be that the temperature and fuel gauges are angled in a strange way I didn't care for. The controls arranged horizontally to the left side of the dashboard, though, which include the trunk release and fuel door release, are perfectly sized and placed. The center stack is not likable and not even that intuitive. The audio and info screen is fussy. Then, I think about the new Malibu, for example, where interfacing with the screen is much easier. The climate control panel is a little better, but could be even simpler. The worst thing about what's in front of you is that strongly angled part in the panel that merges with the right side of the console. You need to reach into that Bermuda Triangle to charge your phone and use the cubby with the cover that slides back and forth nicely. As for the console's surface, it's higher than I'd like it to be, but not as high as some many cars where you feel like an astronaut ... and which are not even sports cars. On the road, the Camry becomes more likable. The engine has a strong enough pull and merges into the highway or passes well. I looked under the hood, which is fairly jumbled looking compared to simpler layouts in other brands, and found a 2.5 liter 4 banger. It pumps out 203 horses. It also delivers close to 40 mpg. I like this part: it's over 2 liters, it puts out over 200 horses, they did it without a turbocharger, and the engine can fetch 40 mpg. On one jaunt, I got 38.63 mpg, with a minor amount of getting on and off the highway. Therefore, I don't like how one popular domestic sedan (cough) at the same price point went to a diminutive 1.5 liter 4 AND a turbocharger to get the power and similar gas mileage. Once one is edging $30,000, I don't think there's anything wrong with asking for at least 2 liters worth of powerplant. The transmission is an 8 speed geared automatic. I thought it might be a CVT. Thankfully, it was not. Earlier shifts pulling away from a light are smooth and feel just right. When in a mid-range pass or if climbing a grade, the automatic transmission seems to, at times, hunt for a gear. And, with that, it sends the normally smooth engine into a state of graininess that comes into the cabin. At all other times, the cabin is hushed and isolated well from both wind noise and tire thum. I'm almost certain, though, that the powertrain is as dependable as that of any Camrys that came before it. I had this review thought out before I read any other reviews or summaries about the car. I then happened onto US News or Edmunds, which gave their pluses and minuses on the Camry. I'm in line with much of what they report. The one thing they mentioned is how touchy some of the advanced driving sensors and compensating features are. This rental car had the lane keeping warning ... and what appeared to be some correction. I felt a slight tug at times. I wasn't digging on this when it was raining outside and big rigs were passing me on the interstate or if I was in a road work zone. I would have had much more use for the blind spot alert on the exterior mirrors or rear cross traffic alert. This car did not have them. However, they are available via an option package. The new Camry's winning hand is its steering and road stance. The on-center feel is damn near perfect. The amount of assist also seems just right, whether it's navigating a parking lot or a two lane mountain road. It's this aspect of the car that makes it very easy to live with. And it's an aspect that is far improved from earlier Camrys I've driven. I returned this car with mostly a positive impression of it. Come on, Toyota. Lose the exaggerated front end fascia theatrics. Design a more sensible dashboard and ease up on the center stack, both in terms of its fussiness and by giving you more working room under the climate control area. With some fine tuning of the packaging here and there, the reliable and competent Camry could be even better. (photos forthcoming)

Oh...yes they are. Some are. Some are not. But...tell you one thing. Even with today's cleaner cars, leave your car running in a closed environment and see how you fair and then come and tell me that emission laws are overboard. Catalytic converters and technology have come a long way since the 1970s. When push comes to shove...automakers WILL find a solution. When left alone....chaos ensues. Hell, chaos ensues when there are rules. A famous saying in NASCAR ...Tom Petty...oops..Richard Petty, (RIP TOM)...said if you aint cheatin', you aint tryin' THIS is regarding rules and regulations when in place and anarchy STILL ensues. When no laws and regulations exist, all hell breaks loose. And this is the kind of mind set that Detroit...and Wolfsburg go by. Not a good thing for you and me, buddy.

Basically what he said. I try to be aware of my biases, even wrote some thoughts on it a few years back - https://contradictoryenigmas.tumblr.com/post/154206882939/bias-creep-redux

If you think so, you should definitely call me out on it, and @William Maley too. I'm not saying that all writers do it, but there are some pretty clear biases out there.

This is today, when Ferrari is peddling all kinds of products from toilet paper to dildos... Not back in the 1960s, and hence the merger with...Ford.

Most of the development occurred in the UK, and after Shelby got involved--- two years into the program--- he was flying back and forth from LA to the UK and occasionally to Detroit...weekly..(the facility was in an airport hangar at Heathrow, I believe)... from the book, IIRC.

eh... they clearly have their favorites. It's obvious when excuses are made for certain brands that are criticisms of others.

He doesn't believe anyone unless he saw it with his own eyes or hear it with his own ears. He doesn't believe any car or non-car publications either Anyway, from what I have read the story in the movie is pretty close to what really happened with some small deviations to make it a "movie", it is not a documentary after all.

Not in the slightest.

And you know good and well which motor I’m referring to as it is the same motor that was implied in your last username (again, this on top of your constant GM defending AND Ford bashing). If you’re going to lie about it, at least try to be more convincing about it.

Rather it be arthritis than being patently full of $h! when trying to convince others that you’re not a “fanboy” when you are the very definition of it. Oh wait. Maybe it’s not fanboyism. Maybe...

Because it is a coupe they can sell it for $10k more than the regular SUV because buyers are stupid.

+1 +1 +1 Yup. You'll get thrown into anything when you have an open opinion. There are only a few brands that I don't have an open opinion on and the biggest is Nissan. They're all garbage and it'll be difficult to change my mind about them.

Everybody has different opinions on 'sounds great', of course. Personally, I think it sounds like crap. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky_BogbSIN8

Library for Amazon Music is really lousy up here unfortunately. I'm on a Spotify family plan so it comes to $36 a year.

Did you forget your eye doctor appointment, Pops? It's like a freight train rolling across the plains... unstoppable.

Yea, lets hope not! ? America needs better than that continual deceit of lies.

Considering I've been in both Alfa Products ( Co workers), I might add my 2 cents here. I liked their their looks, but didn't look much past that. Driving them- MUCH different story! Let's just say they are fun to drive! They may not be pure Dodge power, but they handle quite well. And the interior are something I could look at every day..... Stelvio was a surprise....wasn't quite as fun to get back into the Equinox... ? They have a market, it just needs to grow a bit. Never thought I'd come to Alfa's rescue.... ?

A puzzler for sure; losing sales & money, deemed not worth keeping.... "WHO WANTS TO BUY A SWEET ITALIAN AUTO BRAND? EH?" Just shut them down, nary a tear will be shed.

Started with a “6.2” (a GM motor) in his username and constantly defends GM but he’s not a GM “fanboy”. mmmmkay. Oh and since my paragraphs are too long for you, I’ll shorten it up for you in the future and use smaller words.

KAG 2020! YEAH!

Goooood. I've been good.

Autoline Detroit today just said that the French might want to put Alfa Romeo and Maserati on the block if the merger is going to go through. These two brands are bleeding money and they deem them not to be worth the effort trying to promote them since their sales are dismal as well... just click on that link. I hope it starts when John McElroy is talking about it. https://youtu.be/NmUdAWdb6ew?t=177

3 people on my street all just acquired Tesla's Model 3. Am I going to see firetrucks in my neighborhood anytime soon? But then again, I own a Ford...Fusion...with the 1.6 liter ecoboost... From the UK...just last year...after I googled 1.6 liter ecoboost fires. 1st thing that popped up... https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-46180703 Yeah... Tesla is in the shytes. Could be true. But what is FoMoCo's excuses. This is a century old car maker... Not to pass the buck...but Tesla just suffers from the same shyte that all car makers suffer from. NO EXCEPTION! If we wanna just point the finger at Tesla because they evil, well, that is quite hypocritical of us, doncha think?

That was something I liked about living in Arizona. No time change.

Actually, humans know also. This time changing thing phoques with our biological clock. I cant stand this daylight savings time change twice a year. We are currently on standard time right now, right? Let's keep it there!!!

GREAT! YOU?

Yep...and the same with their mealtime...let me know an hour earlier...

Diesel pollutes the air. Like...a lot. It seems no matter how many articles Id post, a denier, a naysayer or just a person with un-phoquinging-beliavable bias would not believe and just ignore. But its OK. Thank the little Lord Jesus "unjust laws" exist to wipe diesels from civilian use from the face of God's Green Earth to really force change... (awaiting a down vote)

Saw a really clean black '97-03 Grand Prix 2dr pulling out of a parking lot this afternoon...looked rust free..always liked the roofline on that era.

Such a good looking vehicle.

wow another crossover coupe. boy am i impressed.

Nissan and Infiniti have stale, old lineups and it shows. I imagine GM and FCA are dropping seeing those gains at Hyundai/Kia and Honda. German luxury up across the board, Mercedes was up too, not surprising.

Not bad heading toward the end of the year.......

I guess ride, braking, acceleration, handling, room, etc are merely secondary now. Either that, or future advancement is basically done.

Amazing that this is what passes for a critical buying criteria now.

Ugliest Truck Award, continues to prove why they are 3rd in the market place. Chevrolet has LOST their Design Language to the Borg! ??

Agreed! And on a crazier note, my Equinox is again trapped in the garage... #damgaragedoor

*DROOOOOOL* 2021 Silverado 2500HD Z71 Carhartt Edition #OMFGWTFIWANT! What a MANWICH!

Cry me a river. That's why you were triggered right? Stating it several times? Sure back track on being an ass because you can't erase after you've calmed down from your apparent tantrum haha. Funny I'm the one with two college degrees including an MS yet you think you know about my knowledge? That's some funny sh!t right there! It's selective reading because I detect BS and don't waste my time with it. I was comparing warranties with vehicles on opposite sides of the spectrum and you went further off with other manf., hypocritical much? I've seen where you and your buddy go off on others on here that don't agree with you, so it's you with an ego problem guy.