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He said it put out 1,169 HP.

As a matter of fact, it does. But not as motive force. It's to power the liftgate.

Hmmm... I need more pics. Interior is definitely Benz... headlights I'm not a fan of, the big, bold grille: thumbs up. Nice to see it has a real engine... or does this have the optional 1.3L 3-cylinder from the Encore GX as an upgrade?

It isn't that this is ugly, it's just mundane as fck.

Will be interesting to see how the side panels and rear look...the front is too much XT6... is there any vertical lighting or just the small horizontal lights?

Speaking on just the front end, no. Just no. The interior looks to be a nice leap in style though. I will have to give $h! about one thing though, the slab tablet look across the dash, aka Benz style. Seems like there was bit of a criticism in regards to the Palisade having that look and that is true here as well.

Wow. If that really is the escalade it sucks. Worse than the chevys suck. Can we assume then the yukon will just have the sierra front on it?

Au contraire I believe. I personally think that one contributing factor in the demise of Oldsmobile and Pontiac was BECAUSE GM went with the "corporate" engine route. Many loyal Pontiac and Oldsmobile fans and buyers never forgave GM for eliminating Oldsmobile's and Pontiac's right to produce their own engines. There were many loyal Pontiac and Oldsmobile engine fanatics that never really wanted or loved Chevrolet engines. The corporate V8 to this day is a Chevrolet V8... At least Oldsmobile designed the Northstar V8 and had its mark on V8s for GM, but the Northstar was touted and marketed as a Cadillac engine. The Aurora V8 was Oldsmobile's V8 which was a smaller displacement version of the "Cadillac Northstar"... it lacked cubic displacement, horsepower and torque in the road cars to actually make Oldsmobile fanboys happy and proud and ultimately keep them as clients. At least the engine had success in racing, but GM was using mixed marketing signals and wasnt clear as to which division the North star/Aurora really belonged to and which "version" had success in the racing programs of the 1990s. At least Oldsmobile also had a hand in GM's 4 cylinder development in keeping up with the times in the 1980s and well into the 1990s with the Quad 4...but the engine was ridiculed by the American automotive journalists for a lack of balance shafts and therefore less "refined" than the Japanese counterparts, which was a bunch of bullshyte...and which of course the Japanese jumped on that immediately with their advertisements in the American market... The bad thing about the Quad 4 was the gaskets leaked over a period of time...a problem that the Northstar had too... At least Oldsmobile also had hindsight to see the market perception of the need not only for 4 valves/cylinder DOHC V8 engines, and 4 bangers, but for 6 cylinders as well and the Shortstar was born. Based on the Northstar/Aurora V8... But, GM did not really advertise that Oldsmobile still produced engines for itself and those engines were "corporate" engines in effect... Poor old Pontiac though, had to concern itself in selling copy cat Chevrolet pony cars, it was always like that, but at least in the early 1970s, those were powered by pure Poncho engines, but by the time the 1980s rolled along, with a Pontiac fanboy's point of view, those awesome Firebirds/Trans Ams are not just shytty badge engineered Chevys with shytty Chevy engines underneath... And yes, along with the billions of dollars creating Saturn, and the billions in buying SAAB and trying to sustain both Saturn and SAAB, those 3 things had a huuuuuuge impact in the demise of Pontiac and Oldsmobile. And if we think clearly enough, many fans of those brands never came back to GM to buy Chevrolets or Buicks or Cadillacs. Not only did GM lose market share to the Japanese and Germans, because of the reasons we have discussed ad nauseam, but because of the decision from GM itself to consolidate its brands. GM underestimated the loyalty of its customers and arrogantly thought that just because Oldsmobile and Pontiac were under the GM umbrella, that Pontiac and Oldsmobile buyers were actually in fact, GM customers....for life... In other words, they believed their own marketing bullshyte in that a GM buyer will start life as a beginner and buy himself a Chevy, and as his finances grow, the customer will upgrade or graduate to Pontiac, then Oldsmobile, the Buick, then Cadillac... A good marketing strategy, but not really reality... Not a good thing when you start believing your own bullshyte...and yes...marketing in general is bullshyte...effective bullshyte...but bullshyte non the less... I personally believe, instead of spending billions on the billions they spent on trying to reverse the market share decline on compliance shyteboxes such as the X platform Citation and its badge engineered siblings, on the dumb decision to make a Cavalier into a Cadillac, (Nothing really wrong with the J platform), the crappy launch and the billions lost on the W-Body, the idiocy to develop a new kind of car company Saturn, the stupid decision to buy SAAB... Instead of all those BILLIONS lost and the result was MEDIOCRE to POOR and SHYTE vehicles, if GM had spent those BILLIONS on REALLY engineering GREAT cars INCLUDING keeping the AUTONOMOUS identity of ALL its BRANDS that were Chevrolet, Pontiac, Buick, Oldsmobile, Cadillac and GMC, then market share would stabilize and probably grow...

Pretty straightforward; it wasn't 'duplication', it was 'competition'. They were largely autonomous Divisions. FoMoCo & ChryCo also had 400s- it was a 'tier' of displacements that customers were looking for. Another tier was 350-351-352 and 421-425-426-427-428-429-430 (some of these were set to comply with racing classes). Another: 300, 301, 302, 303, 304, 305, 307. Going to 'GM Powertrain' in the early '80s ("corporate engines") began the slide of GM's market share and devalued the Divisions to a notable degree. BK would have hit a decade or so SOONER. You recall the case brought against GM for sharing 350s without telling customers? It was not widely acceptable then because Divisional identities were so strong.

You have to press the brake to shift into Park or Reverse on the Fusion and Chrysler 300s.

This gives off an awkward CMax or Bolt profile sitting low but a CUV-like profile.

I like cars from every decade...though it may have taken a little while for some! Was not a big model T era fan...but now they are a fave of mine. ? Maybe it’s an older and wiser thing?Just happy to enjoy them......

Wrong. It just got revised.

Completely new platform, and no the console and engines do not carry over. The engines are just the same displacement, they have been updated.

My brother has his Firebird engine back from the builder. Gonna be zippy! ~

Nissan hasn't gotten the best press and the best sales numbers lately. I recently had a Nissan Sentra as a rental. This was a one car bump up in category from what I rented on line. I had driven one once before. Surprisingly, this is now considered an intermediate car. To me, it's a compact car. The Nissan Sentra is more likable than one might image, but it's also sort of boring and predictable. It's likable because it does everything fairly well for its size and price point, while not excelling at any particular thing. On second thought, it excels in terms of fuel economy when on a highway jaunt. Also, the Sentra is a very easy car to get accustomed to once you get behind the wheel. The controls of this Nissan are fairly straightforward, with the two big circular dials in the IP for the tach and speedo. In between is a square box for messages. The alignment and simplicity of things in the center stack is also easy to work with. The info audio screen and climate control are easier to operate than they are on a similar sized Toyota product. The console is about the size you'd expect in a car of this caliber. The demerits are that, in the center message box, you can't get one that displays the speed in digital form. Or, maybe, I couldn't find it. I kept trying since I much prefer a digital read on m.p.h. The other not so clever thing is what happens on the steering wheel toggle controls. In my mind, it makes more sense to have speed controls on the left side and audio controls on the right side, given that they are closer to the center stack. So, when I thought I was upping or lowering my cruise speed, I was actually changing the track on my music. Lastly, while the trunk remote is perfectly placed and feels great to the touch, they put the fuel release door way, way down ... by the trunk release. However, overall, the entire dashboard and its controls are very satisfactory, even if the materials of the vinyl covering swaths of the dashboard are slightly downmarket. Compared to the vertical nature of the Toyota Corolla's dashboard style, the dashboard of the Nissan Sentra is more nicely shaped, particularly from the passenger's viewpoint. It seems to give the front seating area more room. Also, the trunk is roomy and usable. The seats are conventionally but nicely shaped. In the base cloth, they look tough and like they're in it for the long haul. The rear seating in the cabin has abundant leg room. The visibility all around is excellent, even in the C-pillar with the inset opera windows of sorts. The Sentra's styling is now a familiar sight. The side profile has some swoops but is fairly simple, resembling a Buick Verano hit with an ugly stick. I'm exaggerating! But the volumes are much the same. The front fascia is the typical one worn by Nissan products. Here, I prefer the Toyota Corolla for having the horizontal and identifiable front bumper area. This is placed underneath the busy plastic grille in the Sentra. The rear lights have gotten more refined over the years and the rear 3/4 view is among one of the Sentra's better looks. On the road, the 1.8 liter 4 cylinder engine is adequate. It has served this car and Nissan for quite a while. It's enough for most applications but I wouldn't get overly confident with what it can do ... and what situations it can get you out of. Also, in true Nissan form, the transmission is a CVT. It works okay most of the time but, on a merge or a pass, it does something a geared automatic would not do. It seems to spool down in rpms when it decides to and does not seem as linked to what you dish out to the throttle as it would in a geared automatic transmission. This situation felt unusual at times, as if it the CVT had a mind of its own. Steering feel is adequate. Road noise is reasonably controlled but, with most cars of this size, some wind noise and tire thum intrudes. It could be quieter. Its dimensions make it easy to maneuver and park but it's not as frisky and nimble in its handling as, say, a smaller Hyundai Accent. The engine compartment is fairly straightforward. The battery is easy to locate and probably easy to replace when that is needed.I found dipsticks and openings for the critical fluids except the transmission fluid. I believe this is sealed on CVTs. The winning points of this car are the fuel mileage. On most segments, I closed in on 40 mpg. On one trek, I exceed 40 mpg, and this was cruising along at close to 70 mph. That's impressive. The car is also a good value and should last a good while if maintained, and that means taking care of that CVT with the recommended fluid changes. Between the Sentra and the Corolla, I think I like the Sentra more and, if the Corolla is now running with a CVT, then that would reinforce how I feel. (However, between a bigger Altima and a bigger Camry, I would more quickly opt for a Camry.) This is a car that can work for a lot of people who have reasonable demands of a vehicle, don't want to spend too much, and value excellent fuel economy. (photos forthcoming)

You only look at the HP and torque ratings? What about the efficiency numbers? Dont those count? I do not know as I havent researched that, but if you are gonna blow your stack bitchin', at least get ALL the numbers so you could REALLY compare and contrast...and when I mean ALL the numbers, I REALLY mean ALL the numbers... The engine is NOT a completely new design. Like the C8's LT2 engine as compared to the C7's LT1's engine... Im not talking about the redesigning certain components for the LT2 to be used in a mide-engined configuration, I do mean the small changes to the cylinder heads and valve trains to improve combustion efficiency and stuff... This new engine under the hood of these new big Utes, If Im correct, use the new LT2 architecture...but they are TUNED to produce the same HP and torque numbers as the previous models...but Im willing to bet that this new engine is MORE efficient in all the efficient ways that are deemed to be...efficient... C'mon, bro...you are NOT THAT obtuse....

I say rear drive is better. They have 5 rear drive SUVs. And the FWD chassis ones will do battle with all the other FWD vehicles in that $35-50K segment, and theirs are the best on market now. Acura, Volvo, Cadillac, Lexus and these companies that had it easy when Mercedes didn't come down to their level are in trouble now.

Except for a couple I-6s, everything I've owned has been a V8.

If you just look at the headlights just below that chrome trim, you would realize that there is something that is covering up that area. The area just below the headlights and just to the sides of the grill. We do not know what is there, it just looks like a black piece of nothing-ness... But...we like to moan and bitch and complain... I bet you, even if those headlights are not extended by another set of luminous features, there must be something else to "POP" making the front end be more in line of what an Escalade should be... Patience people....PATIENCE!!! The Escalade has ALWAYS been stunning to look at minus the very first GMC badge engineered one...

Oddly, it doesn’t bother me. I don’t care for the current gen nose and think the 07-13 models looked better. I do wish they not do a spot on match with the trucks though. At least the last two gens ditched that approach to better results IMO.

Welcome to 2017!

I don't think either of us get BMWs to test. But anyway, we'd have to wait until June/July to test Android Auto anyway.

Escalade: ( exterior and interior photos) https://www.carscoops.com/2019/12/2021-cadillac-escalade-this-is-it-straight-from-the-factory/ Here's how an independent rear suspension improved the 2021 Chevy Tahoe and Suburban https://www.autoblog.com/2019/12/11/chevy-tahoe-suburban-independent-rear-suspension/

Aaaaaaand, boring.

Grant MB respect for some respectful numbers on the auto since it is nothing more than a cheap ass FWD appliance with some horsepower. External is just Blah Jelly Bean. Internal is Cheap ass looing with those ugly circle plastic vents. Looks like a ricer version meant to go into a Playstation or Xbox game.

I don't see the Performance Package listed... THAT'S ALL I'LL NEED!!

The same could be asked even for a shift lever if that's the case, because everything is electronic and not mechanical any way. I think it's safe to say there are built in safeties but I'm not willing to test it out on my Lincoln.

Not the prettiest thing I've ever seen, especially in Z71 guise. Then again, almost every single thing Chevy has released in the last 2-3 years has looked worse than the outgoing model...and I typically like newer vehicles.

I have to say I like the front end on these much more than on SIlverado. Except this trim, this looks horrendous in this color, might be ok on all black truck: Cool though with the raised suspension, it will have some real off road capability, Will be interesting to see how they will compare to Fords. Here is a spy shot of upcoming Escalade

Love that GM is sticking with the SB NA V8's! Cleaner more conservative front end to the Silvy 1500, not crazy about he back-end off the bat, but probably better in person like the Silvy. Inside is a nice improvement and probably what we'll see with the 2021 Silverado/Sierra interior updates. They'll continue to rein in the full-size SUV class. 3.0 DMax is a big add too and continuing to offer the 6.2 in Tahoe is huge. GM has nailed the smoothness and shift algorithms of the 10 speed. Driven a Silverado and Caddy with it now and they were both awesome. Just not crazy about push buttons or dials for shifting an AT into or out of gear.

Coming to the 2027 Chevrolet Traverse, standard 1.3 liter, 3-cylinder power!

Not bad at all..there were probably V6s and V8s with less torque around 1980...

No, but the Duramax 3.0 is there.

The column shift lever belongs in a 1980s museum. It's about time it was left behind in favor of push button shifting. Besides, was push button shifting not available back in the 1950s?

A 'spunky 3-cylinder'??? Might as well have an electric motor.

*grabs chest* ELIZABETH, IT'S THE BIG ONE... GONE is the column shift lever, replaced by a row of buttons!

A couple great looking late 60s formal roof coupes...the roofline of the '68 Cadillac Coupe de Ville and the '68 Impala Custom Coupe are very similar...look at the length of those quarter panels and rear decks...

I thought you were tho

Very RAV4 with the roof colour change for off-road or sport trim levels. I don't think I would buy a subcompact CUV, especially a 3 cylinder, when compacts are only ~2-3K more.

Cars -as design- are no different than art, architecture, or music.

Isn’t ‘your era’ 70s-80s tho, and not the 60s? We’re the same age bracket; I’m not 75-85 and I can appreciate design from the 50s & 40s. Good design, commonly done by one artist rather than a committee. No one in my family or friends or neighbors had 40s-50s vehicles when I was ‘coming of automotive age’. Always good to look outside one’s own bubble. Art transcends time.

I think the beauty and proportions are very individual. I am not a big fan of cars designed in 60-70, huge land barges. A lot of them have very awkward proportions, too much chrome.

And several divisions had unrelated 400s during the late 60s-70s. Looking back from today, it's hard to comprehend one corporation having 5 brands with their own engine development and manufacturing...seems like it would be very costly and inefficient to have that much duplication across brands.

• Cadillac had no big block until it had a small block, but even then it’s 350 (‘76) was forged at Olds... so still only 1 block at that point. • Yes; there were 3 co-existing 455s, tho Olds got theirs out in ‘68 and Pontiac & Buick in ‘70. Nothing interchanges. • Each Division had their own proprietary engine programs & foundries to produce them. This went back to the independent roots of each Division; Cadillac’s engine building began in 1890.

These seem very carry over so is this new or a mid-cycle refresh? The body panels on the side look the same, the center console is carry over, engines are carryover with the addition of the diesel. Independent rear suspension is a big improvement as is the air suspension. Good adds there. Front end is ugly on the Silverado, it's ugly here. I don't think Chevy has made a good looking car since Ed Welburn left, C8 looks good, but outside of that, Chevy builds some of the ugliest cars on the road right now.

Well I hope they found some fuel economy improvements in that 5.3 V8 because there are other vehicles of similar size that get 25% better fuel economy. That is why I said at first look, and I want to see the full thing in reality. As far as GM styling, the 6th gen Camaro was a bust, they reworked it a year or 2 later and still doesn't look good. Blazer looks like the Camaro that was a bust. The Malibu has been pretty forgettable the past 5 years, the Silverado doesn't look good, that new Tahoe/Suburban don't look good. I could argue ATS/CTS look better than CT4/CT5, but they are pretty close. GMC styling has been pretty good, not much wrong there, but Chevy/Cadillacs all look very similar to each other and they aren't on a good track.

2020 Tahoe 15/21 mpg 17 mpg combined 2020 Expedition 17/22 mpg 19 mpg combined 2020 GLS450 19/23 mpg 21 mpg combined 2020 BMW X7 20/25 mpg 22 mpg combined The Tahoe beats the ancient Land Cruiser that is 13/17 mpg however.

GLS last month sold at a higher rate than Escalade has in 59 of the past 60 months. Only 1 month, but my guess is 2020 sees GLS as the top seller, X7 2nd, Escalade 3rd and Navigator 4th. True to the Tahoe though (loads of fleet sales due to government and police packages) but they do outsell the Expedition. I feel like Ford dropped the ball for a lot of years on the Expedition and this new one is a competitor but for 10 years it was substandard. The Japanese full size SUVs are basically pre-2009 recession designs, those things are ancient and they should just kill them off if they aren't going to come up with a 100% new product.