Robert Hall

Heh-heh... The Costco Kirkland sedan and Wal-Mart Sam's Pride coupe are inevitable... I predicted this a long time ago.

Maybe, but it was RWD. That fact alone made it infinitely better than the dozens of look-alike FWD medicore generics GM built from '80 onward.

Or change your line to end with 'for over 300 years.' or 'since before any of us were born', both of which are factual, yet not year-specific.

Interesting...didn't know that factoid about 1791...though I'm sure I read in history class in school decades ago.

Thing is, these magazines are aimed at the public consumers, not the commercial buyers... people in the burbs that buy loaded crew cab pickups that may go to Home Depot a few times a year want them as car like inside as possible. That's a large percentage of the truck buying market, at least in recent years. So the car mags are aiming their reviews at their demographic (like these 3 loaded trucks, definitely for suburbia instead of a construction site). I'm sure there are commercial trade mags that test trucks for truckish features.

I'm not a truck fan, but the '09 Silverado I rode in recently with the Tahoe style dash seemed quite nice.

Speaking of Bugattis, I saw an article over the weekend on Autoblog about a 'barn find' Atlante from the '30s...pretty dramatic design.

The kid playing the 20-something JTK in the new movie looks a bit like a young Shatner... IIRC, I remember reading somewhere that in the '60s when ST was on, the Shat man drove a GTO and a Corvette convertible, Nimoy drove a Riviera.

I like the Morgan Aeromax and the KTM XBow. The coolest unobtainium car (available in the UK, not the US that I know of) is the Ariel Atom, IMHO...a go-cart for the road..would love to drive one on the Ohio backroads. The various midengined supercars not available here don't interest me, most look like a bunch of ugly fiberglass and carbon fibre glued together. The cars not available in the US that I find interesting are more down to earth, such as various diesel Mercs and BMWs, and various Euro models of Peugeots, Renaults, Citroens, Alfas, Fiats, Opels, Fords, etc..

The reality, though, for many years, is that most trucks have been bought by normal car buyers to be used as cars... so most people expect car like interiors in trucks (an industrial grade gray plastic interior doesn't cut it in a $40k truck), that's part of why most trucks today are extended and crew cabs. Which is why it makes sense that GM offers both commerical-grade and civilian grade interior lines in their trucks with the current generation.

I saw an '09 Dodge today in a med. metallic red...very handsome truck, IMHO. Regarding the visual width of the Silverado--it's the stacked headlights...the grille is wider than the competition with lights vertical out on the edges...

That's something older generations said, I think...my Dad was a Lincoln man but he said that occasionally. Never heard anyone my generation say it...my friends and colleagues that are my age range (mid to late 30s) that have premium brand cars have Acuras (TLs, MDX), Audis (A4s), BMWs (3-series, 5-series), Infinitis (G35,G37), a couple w/ Mercedes (C-class, ML) and a couple w/ Lexuses (ES,RX,IS), and Volvos (XC70, XC90). I'm the only one that likes Cadillacs and Lincolns..

An early '80s Datsun 280ZX in yellow with later 300ZX wheels. Decent shape...haven't seen one of those in ages.

Rainy, gray, about 50 here in Phoenix this AM. Brewing some coffee now..thinking about making an omelet.

I remember stopping at those in small towns late at night in E. Ohio/W. Pa....the song 'Darkness on the Edge of Town' running thru my head...while 'California dreaming on a winter's day'... (when I was young and living in E. Ohio, I wanted to get out soooo bad...finally did, to Colorado, via Michigan).

Ya, it's quite the design...I have a couple Matchbox diecasts and a 1:25th model of the Atlantic. The first time I ever noticed '30s-40s designs was when I was about 10 years old, 1980, and my Dad got me the Monogram 1:24th scale models of the '36 Cord 812 convertible and the '41 Lincoln Continental convertible. They were car designs he loved as as a teenager when they were new cars. Then I built other Monogram classic kits of the '31 Cadillac and a Duesenberg... I still have those kits stashed away somewhere..

Yeah, the front end of the Morgan Aero and Aeromax is rather off-putting, with cross-eyed headlights. But I love the profile (long hood, boattail) and rear of the Aeromax...

There were a number of lights that were on wierd timers in both the Colorado Springs and Denver area that would take forever to change at night. I would often back and up then pull forward a few times to try and trip them. At one in the city, I'd occasionally get out of the car, run across the street, and manually hit the cross walk button to trip the light. At other lights, I'd make a right turn, then a u-turn and then go right again if I had to wait too long..

It's funny..i kept looking at the pics of this car, thinking it looks familiar..then I read in the article that it's in the Petersen now, so that's where I saw it a couple years ago.

It's really a dramatic car....very Art Deco (I love Art Deco design..). For a modern car with a wild, classic dramatic shape, I'm really loving the look of the Morgan Aeromax, in profile and from behind. And yes, the Talbot Lago HW is what I was thinking of...I've got a bunch in different colors also. Morgan Aeromax:

I like the wheels on the Camaro...I wonder if part of the transformation process (into a robot) is to loose the B-pillars..

Heh-heh...my brother had a couple mid '70s ('73, 74) LTDs back in the '80s, both had serious rust issues...on both, you could open the trunk and see ground...was open between the frame rails..he made a trunk floor out of plywood...had the rear bumpers wired on. One he paid $50 for and drove for a couple of winters...the radiator fell out and he ran over it, and what eventually killed the car was when the rear axle fell off while driving...had like 350k miles. I still give him a hard time for his 'white trash' affectation during those years (and this is a well educated guy, Ohio State grad, but a perpetual f*ck up and the black sheep of my family). Back on point, I haven't anything really memorable this first week of February.

It doesn't...the DTS' competitors are the Lucerne and Town Car.

I've thought 'BAMF' (Bad Azz Mo Fo) would be a cool plate, but the DMV likely wouldn't approve it. The best I've seen is 'GEEKSTA' (Geek Gangsta) on a Tahoe in Denver.

Agreed..the competition isn't sleeping, they are still moving forward.. Unfortunately, I don't see GM doing that..I see them sticking with the vanilla FWD V6 automatics that have been their main focus in cars for the last 25+ years..