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Water Seeps Into Vault Holding Buried Car
KOTV - 6/13/2007 11:13 AM - Updated 6/13/2007 3:46 PM
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TULSA, Okla. (AP) _ Workers unearthing the 1957 Plymouth Belvedere buried under the city's courthouse lawn were dealt an early setback Wednesday, as several feet of water were found in the concrete vault supposedly strong enough to withstand a nuclear attack.

The two-door hardtop, buried in 1957 to celebrate Oklahoma's 50 years of statehood, is set to be lifted out of the 12-foot-by-20-foot time capsule Friday morning to commemorate the state's centennial year. As many as 50,000 people from all over the world are expected at the event, and more than 260 media credentials have been handed out to reporters from New York to New Zealand.

But news of the standing water was crushing to event organizers. As heavy rain fell at the site, the Belvedere's fate remained unknown.

The vault was briefly opened Wednesday so hazardous materials crews could inspect the 10 gallons of gasoline and motor oil cans that had been placed in the time capsule in case internal combustion engines became obsolete by 2007.

Excavators found water halfway up on the car's fenders and more evidence water could have been to the top of the vault at one point, said Art Couch, who is heading up the unearthing project.

''I don't know how bad it is, but it's not good,'' Couch said. ``We were hoping it would be dry in there.''

Some water was pumped out, and the city was to bring in a truck to remove the last foot or so.

''The concrete must not have been as good as we hoped it was,'' Couch said. ``It had some failures over the years; the concrete didn't hold.''

The Belvedere was wrapped in a protective plastic material before it was buried, but it was unknown how it held up against the elements.

''Plymouths were very prone to rust to begin with,'' said Jim Benjaminson, a car collector from North Dakota who has written several books on Plymouths. ''Depending on this bag, if that car has sat in water for 50 years, I don't hold much hope for it.''

Benjaminson, who plans to be at Friday's unearthing, said he read a recent article that the plastic used to cover the Belvedere was supposed to protect materials ''for 1,200 years'' from rust.

''I guess we're going to see if that claim is true,'' he said.

Organizers say this just creates that much more mystery around the car's unveiling. News On 6 anchor Terry Hood hosts our live special Friday evening at 7 o’clock. The unveiling can also be seen live, streaming on the internet at kotv.com.
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Man, I hope that plastic wrapper held up. I mean, at least the upper half of the car appears relatively intact as far as I can see in the photos... :unsure:
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I really hope the car is ok. It would be so wonderful to see the wrapper come off to unvail a shiny new plymouth!

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If theres no chance for rain till the unvailing, why dont they just take a peak? just cut a small piece where the roof is and check it out? Just to warn people so they all dont start crying if the car is a rust bucket.

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What a suprise... :rolleyes:

Edited by Nick
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There ARE three plastic wrappings around it...hopefully they held up. Either way, it will be a surprise Friday night!

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I can't wait. I guess thats 9 in NY? Are they gonna lift it out at 7 and then take the bag off or take the bag off and then reveal it at 7?

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In the video it looks like the paint on the car may be exposed, if so, I wouldnt expect to see much more then junk.

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While this IS kinda neat ... I'm a bit disappointed that this much has been revealed before Friday. Kinda takes the "edge" off the mystery and excitement ... at least a little bit, I'd think....

*shrugs*

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One of the videos shows the crane operator "practicing" with a twin car. I was curious who loaned out their mint Belvedere for practice? :blink:

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Is the car sealed in plastic, or just covered? The difference between the two will suggest the condition of the car that we will see when the wraps are removed.

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I think it's sealed too. People may not have known as much in the 50s, but I'm sure they knew to seal the plastic.

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If you watch the interview she does say that the car was wrapped in three plastic bags, cosmolene, rust preventatives, and other materials to keep it safe. I guess they had enough forsight to think that it might have water in the hole...we shall see Friday Night. My fingers are crossed. Would love to see her in perfect shape!

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Incidentally, is this why Silvester and Dodgefan are headed to Tulsa?

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Even triple-wrapped in plastic isn't likely to keep water out- it's not the plastic itself but the what-has-to-be numerous seams and the manner of sealant on those seams...

Water manages to get in against the stoutest of defenses. A sump pump system would've been very smart.

I am extremely hopefull, nonetheless.

2 questions: I wonder if the water table level was acertained in 1957, and could there be any other reason as to why the crane operator needed another P-57... besides event hype?

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Storing it with a vault that was drained might have solved a lot of the problems also.

Hopefull but probably junk.

Chris

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