Infographic Reveals Key Details for Model 3

[William Maley]

Thanks to a poster on the Model 3 Owners Club forum, we have some new and juicy information concerning the Model 3. The images posted come from an infographic being handed out to Tesla employees as "talking points" to try and sway people away from Model 3. A Tesla spokesperson confirmed to Road and Track the infographic is real and accurate.

Some information listed on the infographic is already known such as a 215+ mile range and having to pay to use Tesla's Superchargers. There is also new information such as a 0-60 mph time of 5.6 seconds (though it is unclear what is the powertrain layout is being quoted), and a total of 14 cubic feet between the front and rear cargo holds.

The infographic also mentions something interesting about delivery timing - "As we continue to build out our production capacity to meet the higher number of advanced reservations, deliveries for Model 3 orders placed today are not expected until mid 2018."

Source: Model 3 Owners Club, Road & Track
Pic Credit: Model 3 Owners Club

 

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[Anthony Fongaro]

So they want Tesla Sales Associates to sway customers away from the Model 3 and to the Model S? I wonder if that will work with such a big price difference. 

[David]

Very Interesting!

First big question, where are the two kids being put in the Tesla S? Trunk? Last I knew there was no 3rd row seat.

The charts are good and should really send home a clear message about the differences.

3 minutes ago, Anthony Fongaro said:

So they want Tesla Sales Associates to sway customers away from the Model 3 and to the Model S? I wonder if that will work with such a big price difference. 

Agree, I know plenty that have placed their deposits for a Tesla 3 and are excited for an EV that is priced between 15-50K. 

I suspect many will be disappointed when they see that the features they want are pushing their Tesla 3 into Tesla S price range. I would not be surprised to see many cancel their reservation. 

Bigger question to ask is how many once they see the pricing, will flip the reservation over to an S model?

[Drew Dowdell]

There is a rear facing 3rd row seat optional on the Model-S

[David]

1 hour ago, Drew Dowdell said:

There is a rear facing 3rd row seat optional on the Model-S

Cool to know, interesting that in all the time I have been in tesla S and seen them that I never have seen this option or heard about it. Weird. Those have got to be some tiny seats for tiny kids.

[David]

Interesting, the third row is so close to the roof and glass, I am surprised it is legally safe.

Not impressed with kids in the seats.

Guess good for Tailgating!

Over all if you need to haul more than 5 people get an SUV/CUV. This is crazy.

[Drew Dowdell]

If you need to haul an extra pair of kids in a pinch but don't want to get an SUV, it would work.

[FAPTurbo]

the deposit gets them hooked, hyped, defers other car purchases and then has the potential outcome of upselling to a Model S once the 3 comes out. 

SOP for a lot of companies. 

[balthazar]

I hope to hell the mail slot trunk opening on the 3 gets redesigned. Don't understand why they didn't make it a hatch like the S.

[smk4565]

A hatch might cost more.  I assume 5.6 0-60 and 215 miles is the base car.  I assume there an upgrade?

[David]

44 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

A hatch might cost more.  I assume 5.6 0-60 and 215 miles is the base car.  I assume there an upgrade?

I agree, it probably costs more especially to pass the crash testing.

[daves87rs]

Would be nice to at least to see a 3 on the road.....

[balthazar]

I don't believe a hatch would be prohibitively expensive out back from a crash-standpoint- and the rise in appeal due to increased cargo capacity would be huge- this is a sedan in a CUV/SUV world. If Mini can do it on everything they sell starting at $20K, Tesla can do it at "$35K".

[oldshurst442]

Bitchin' just to bitch...

Modern cars....not from the 1960s and 1970s when this was super common but during the beginnings of the SUV craze....

 Mid-1990s FoMoCo Taurus and Sable station wagon

early to mid 1990s General Motors  Caprice Station wagon, Buick Roadmaster station wagon and Oldsmobile Vista Cruiser

And even more modern cars during the HEIGHT but NOT EVEN peak of the SUV craze as SUV madness is growing...

2001 Volvo V70

 

2014 Mercedes E Class

And Tesla....

Not too shabby for it being just a hatch style-'4 door coupe' low and sleek design! 

And NO!

The heads are NOT sooooo close to the window or rear, its very comparable to any station wagon that is sold....OR 3rd ROW SUV seating!!!

 

3rd row SUV seating...2013 GM  FULL PHOQUING SIZED SUV....

The only advantage is that the seats are forward facing...

Not everyone WANTS a freakin' SUV!!!

Not everyone NEEDS a freakin' SUV 24/7/365!

Cars with hatchbacks or station wagons fill that need quite nicely and in MOST cases HAUL MORE stuff than their CUV/SUV equivalent...without the EΧCESSIVE BULKINESS AND WEIGHT of a SHYTY  CUV/SUV all in the while HANDLING BETTER, BRAKING FASTER!!!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited May 27, 2017 by oldshurst442

[oldshurst442]

Bitchin' just to bitch part deux!!!

If Im not mistaken, this is a Model 3 trunk

 

Its not so bad....the Model3 is said to be BMW 3 Series sized...

 

Advantage BIMMER!  BMW engineers thought this out very well!!!! KUDOS!!!

But lets take a look at a Ford Fusion...a slightly bigger car I believe

Looks about the same as the Tesla Model 3....it really is not soooo bad!!!!

 

But yes....a hatch would do wonders....

Here....a Fusion hatch or I should say the Mondeo hatch...

[balthazar]

In the 2nd Model 3 pic above, you can see the intrusions from below the rear window, like everything has there now- speakers & such, it's a killer. My comment is not about cubic feet but the opening- it looks clearly smaller than the 3-series to my eye, and about the smallest I've ever seen. The late '60s F-bodies created the space saver spare because a full-size tire wouldn't fit thru the short opening. How come Ford was able to get the Fusions hatched but Tesla decided against it?

[Robert Hall]

The Model Y is going to follow the Model 3 and be the small CUV, I've read...

[balthazar]

And?
In the CUV/SUV world of 2017 (& thereabouts), the 3 should've also had the same well-integrated hatch the Model S has, pretty easy since the R&D was already done on it. If it had a decent-sized trunk opening, it'd be OK, but not only is the hatch more appealing, it solves the issue the 3 apparently is bringing to market as is.
 

[oldshurst442]

3 hours ago, balthazar said:

In the 2nd Model 3 pic above, you can see the intrusions from below the rear window, like everything has there now- speakers & such, it's a killer. My comment is not about cubic feet but the opening- it looks clearly smaller than the 3-series to my eye, and about the smallest I've ever seen. The late '60s F-bodies created the space saver spare because a full-size tire wouldn't fit thru the short opening. How come Ford was able to get the Fusions hatched but Tesla decided against it?

Mine too was about the opening....

The BMW 3 Series goes further on top. If the Tesla Model 3 did not have that glass, then the Model 3 would probably have a similar opening where the glass like the BMW 3 Series.....

About the Fusion....that hatch is for China and Europe only...and since the Fusion's trunk is about the same type of wide opening as the Model 3 and I own a Fusion and I do not find any real problems with it then this complaint really is much ado about nothing.

OK...I would have bought that hatch style Fusion if it were offered here in North America, but it aint bad at all this way!!!

This is the actual  video where the second pic comes from....

Its still the prototype of 1 year ago...the dude says the opening will be a little bit larger than that on the production car...but even it stayed that way....its comparable to MANY MANY MANY sedans in this vehicle size range!

@3:23 is where the trunk thing starts at.

 In the first pic, you could tell its wider top to bottom wise...

Edited May 27, 2017 by oldshurst442

[balthazar]

My wife has a older Malibu, with a much larger opening, and there are still instances where fitting stuff is problematic.
But Chevy had no sedan hatches then- Tesla does.

(even older Maxx aside)

Edited May 27, 2017 by balthazar