New York 2019: Cadillac CT5 to Debut: Comments

[Cmicasa the Great]

Just now, dfelt said:

While I have my nitpick issues, over all a very sweet ride and I really like the interior. 

Ya know the German koolaid lovers will also nitpick and move the field goal to justify why the german brands are still better. LOL 

I'm digging everything except windows not being tinted to blind out the Black piece on the back. Once windows tinted.. issue over

[David]

1 minute ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

I'm digging everything except windows not being tinted to blind out the Black piece on the back. Once windows tinted.. issue over

Right, I just do not get with all the skin cancer issues and how people love to have their auto's tinted to help deal with hot summer sun, why that is just not standard anymore on a luxury auto.

I agree that once you limo black tint the windows on the side, that ugly weird C pillar issue is gone. The interior blows away anything I have seen on this class from the Germans.

[Cmicasa the Great]

5 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Right, I just do not get with all the skin cancer issues and how people love to have their auto's tinted to help deal with hot summer sun, why that is just not standard anymore on a luxury auto.

I agree that once you limo black tint the windows on the side, that ugly weird C pillar issue is gone. The interior blows away anything I have seen on this class from the Germans.

Right.. It's a very small thing. Oh.. And the tint issue is due to statutory laws. Many states will not pass cars in inspection process with tint on.. Unless it is so weak that its barely noticed or a truck/SUV. All of my cars, except the 66, are tinted just over the legal, but due to the interior colors look almost black 

[David]

2 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

Right.. It's a very small thing. Oh.. And the tint issue is due to statutory laws. Many states will not pass cars in inspection process with tint on.. Unless it is so weak that its barely noticed or a truck/SUV. All of my cars, except the 66, are tinted just over the legal, but due to the interior colors look almost black 

Lucky me, PNW does not have inspections so unless your doing something really stupid for the cop to pull you over, tinting is not an issue here. Though I think with the amount of State police cars with limo black tint, that the whole tint thing should just be dropped.

I also have come to think that inspections are good as too many dangerous auto's on the road. Amazing how many people buy and auto and let it fall into disrepair.

 

[frogger]

I think the interior looks really good, much better than the CUV ones that have come out lately.

The cargo volume thing, 11.9 cubic feet, maybe that is a typo.

 

[Robert Hall]

4 minutes ago, frogger said:

I think the interior looks really good, much better than the CUV ones that have come out lately.

The cargo volume thing, 11.9 cubic feet, maybe that is a typo.

 

The CTS cargo volume is 13.7 cubic feet, this looks like it has a smaller trunk.   Slightly bigger than the ATS, which is 10.4 cubic feet. 

[ccap41]

59 minutes ago, Cmicasa the Great said:

Right.. It's a very small thing. Oh.. And the tint issue is due to statutory laws. Many states will not pass cars in inspection process with tint on.. Unless it is so weak that its barely noticed or a truck/SUV. All of my cars, except the 66, are tinted just over the legal, but due to the interior colors look almost black 

There are a lot of vehicles that come with factory tinted rear windows. I would assume that'd be available here as well.. maybe not? 

My Escape and Lincoln both came with factory tint behind the driver's row. I can't believe that's a Ford thing.

Don't the GM large SUVs and trucks some with tint on the rear windows in higher trims as well? 

26 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

The CTS cargo volume is 13.7 cubic feet, this looks like it has a smaller trunk.   Slightly bigger than the ATS, which is 10.4 cubic feet. 

While 13.7 isn't huge, 3+ cubic feet more is a good amount difference. 

[David]

2 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

There are a lot of vehicles that come with factory tinted rear windows. I would assume that'd be available here as well.. maybe not? 

My Escape and Lincoln both came with factory tint behind the driver's row. I can't believe that's a Ford thing.

Don't the GM large SUVs and trucks some with tint on the rear windows in higher trims as well? 

While 13.7 isn't huge, 3+ cubic feet more is a good amount difference. 

Weird as I have seen the tint on the GM full size Trucks and SUVs and yet also still seen them come with clear glass. Have not figured out why on an Escalade that someone would want clear glass, but I have seen it and it looks bad IMHO.

I agree, I do not think the Tint thing is a Ford thing, just that for some weird reason dealerships order the bulk with tint and then a few without and I see no reason for them being tintless.

[Robert Hall]

9 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

 My Escape and Lincoln both came with factory tint behind the driver's row. I can't believe that's a Ford thing. 

My Jeep has factory tint in the same way.  As did my old Jeep. Now in Arizona, you can tint the front side windows also...my sister's Trax has those, but my Jeep (which came from CA) doesn't..not sure about Ohio, but her STS has aftermarket tint on the side windows it looks like.   I think some states don't allow front side window or windshield tinting... 

Edited April 16, 2019 by Robert Hall

[ccap41]

3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Weird as I have seen the tint on the GM full size Trucks and SUVs and yet also still seen them come with clear glass. Have not figured out why on an Escalade that someone would want clear glass, but I have seen it and it looks bad IMHO.

I agree, I do not think the Tint thing is a Ford thing, just that for some weird reason dealerships order the bulk with tint and then a few without and I see no reason for them being tintless.

I know on Ford it's a higher trim thing. "Privacy Glass" as they word it. 

I think base Lincoln's do as well even though that should be a small part of the luxury experience, imo, and it should be with Cadillac as well. 

I don't THINK it is a dealer thing unless they're only ordering lower trims. I think once you step up to a mid or higher trim package it's just something that gets thrown in. Maybe that's part of the selling feature because just looking at two vehicles, one with tint and one without, one looks so much better and most people aren't about going and having their vehicles tinted. 

1 minute ago, Robert Hall said:

My Jeep has factory tint in the same way.  As did my old Jeep. Now in Arizona, you can tint the front side windows also...my sister's Trax has those, but my Jeep (which came from CA) doesn't..not sure about Ohio, but her STS has aftermarket tint on the side windows it looks like.   I think some states don't allow front side window or windshield tinting... 

Yeah, i definitely did not think it was a Ford thing. 

Here in IL the fronts are only supposed to be 35%. I've done all of mine to 20% and never had issues with law enforcement. 

I've looked up the laws and it seems like every state has different laws. Some allow anything, some allow none at all on the fronts and all sorts of mixtures in the middle.

[Cmicasa the Great]

33 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

There are a lot of vehicles that come with factory tinted rear windows. I would assume that'd be available here as well.. maybe not? 

My Escape and Lincoln both came with factory tint behind the driver's row. I can't believe that's a Ford thing.

Don't the GM large SUVs and trucks some with tint on the rear windows in higher trims as well? 

 

I said cars. 

[ccap41]

It seems weird to be an SUV-only thing but I'm not an OE manufacturer. 

[frogger]

1 hour ago, Robert Hall said:

The CTS cargo volume is 13.7 cubic feet, this looks like it has a smaller trunk.   Slightly bigger than the ATS, which is 10.4 cubic feet. 

So ATS was convertible sized.. CT5 is sub-subcompact sedan sized.  Basically if you have a family, get a CUV/SUV.

 

 

 

[Robert Hall]

3 minutes ago, frogger said:

So ATS was convertible sized.. CT5 is sub-subcompact sedan sized.  Basically if you have a family, get a CUV/SUV. 

Which is how the market works today...families buy CUVs/SUVs..alas, sedan trunks seem to get smaller and smaller and less useful. 

Edited April 16, 2019 by Robert Hall