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CES 2020 has been a busy place this year with more auto companies showing of prototypes and finally production ready auto's than ever before. We have seen so much including the latest in super dense solid state batteries for the EVs to motorcycles and bikes.

This year we now get to see the latest competition to Tesla and Rivian in a well funded California / China based EV auto company called NEURON EV. This company has a swiss army knife of a truck/suv auto as well as a Semi truck that they say is going into production in 2020.

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The truck which is seen here in Silver has a sister truck that was running around the streets which is the following Black T-One.

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All the details you could ever want can be found here on this truck: https://www.neuronev.co/new-products/t-one-p-gyrwr

The cool thing about this modular truck is that is can be more than a truck, a tractor, a van. there are no limits to how one can configure up this beast of an EV.

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The seat options are an interesting take as you can go like how Tesla showed their Semi with a center driving position as a base 3 seat configuration of 3 captain chairs, or a single drivers captain chair and a bench seat behind for 4 people and go from there to cover a wide range of colors, materials, etc. in customizing your auto. 

While this company is looking at this modular truck and semi for the US, in china they will have many more auto options including their V.E.G.A. or Versatile Electric Grand Automobile.

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The company has great plans and while they have only two models for the US market, China will get many more that includes a medium duty truck, a bus, a MAP or Multipurpose Autonomous Platform focused on shipping yards, a HUB or autonomous transportation auto, in addition to the car, semi and truck.

NEURON EV has not released any details about their hp / torque other than to say class leading at this time. Two wheel drive and All Wheel Drive will be the choices folks will have and talk of a base 300 mile range battery pack. More details are to come later this year.

First Press release of 2020 can be found here:

https://www.neuronev.co/01102020

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC69MUFfq-4W8qxUWcGltBUg

 

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23 Views and no comments, very surprised that some have not stated how they feel about the style of this truck.

@balthazar What do you think of this truck and semi from a style point of view?

@Robert Hall @ccap41 @USA-1 @daves87rs @loki @smk4565 @ykX @regfootball @surreal1272 @oldshurst442 @ocnblu

Take a look at the link, some very innovative seating options for the Truck/SUV/VAN depending on configuration.

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Certainly seems like an interesting company, interesting potential product.. kind of a skateboard w/ configurable bodywork variations.  I wonder how real they are or how much is smoke and mirrors presentation... 

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not bad, in the way that electric vehicles could be styled, but still very bland, but not in any sort of bad way. makes me think blade runner, kinda.
the small truck and bus are fairly distinctive.

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I feel like companies like this and all the other EV start ups are basically on a mission to just get bought out but a bigger manufacturer so the original investors can cash out.   This company probably doesn't want to sell cars, they want to get bought by Honda or Toyota or someone.

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Computer CAD drawings.

Some words typed on a teleprompter that sound good as to what we should expect because Tesla is the benchmark. Those same words are also on a website because teleprompter is soooooo last century.   However, no real data...just some of those magical words: Class leading and state of the art. 

A mock-up or two for some sort of  presentation.   (We dont know if in the video, that truck is powered by a battery and a motor or a Chevy small block V8 and gasoline...) 

No concrete date of when the actual product will be ready for people to buy.  Or when production will begin.  Or if those CAD designs are actually approved for production.  Or if those CAD designs are an exercise of what a human can do with a 3D computer program...but in reality its just a 3D drawing on a computer screen....

I will refrain to comment further on this up until we get NEURON EV to actually have a real working product, ready for production and ready for sale...

Why I say this?

Because I remember this presentation a while ago.   And if memory serves me right, this too, was a Tesla killer or competitor or whatever...

 

We are still waiting...

 

 

 

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Must have missed it...

One thing that I do like about it is how well it configures together. The different styles tend to suit it very well.

Front end is growing on me......

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It doesn't do a whole lot for me. It gives off the gimmicky vibe of just being different to be different.  

I don't hate it though. 

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I brought up the Neuron EV T-One in a post on here a few months ago about the Tesla Cybertruck. T-One is a pretty slick futuristic truck and probably not far out in our future. I still think the center driver position will pose an issue and the front seat design hogs a lot of space for two potential passengers in front. I don't think US DOT would even allow this center driver setup anyway. I know right hand drive cars are illegal to sell here if new, so I doubt this would be any different.

I'll say it again, Neuron EV is displaying a truck that I would buy WAY before the fugly Tesla "Cyborg" truck if what they've both shown is a real actual production unit.

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It's not terrible but if gives off a gimmicky vibe to me. I'd go with a Rivian well before one of these, and they're made and owned in the US and not partially Chinese owned. 

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2 hours ago, ccap41 said:

It's not terrible but if gives off a gimmicky vibe to me. I'd go with a Rivian well before one of these

For sure, I like the Rivian R1T a lot better, it's actually the best BEV truck so far in my opinion. Cybertruck is definitely more gimmicky if it's even the actual production truck Tesla would bring out.

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One Positive benefit that a Skateboard platform brings to Auto's is the ease of reconfiguration for local markets. Being drive by wire compared to past manual linkage of an auto, this should make configurations a much faster process.

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^ Unfortunately and inconsistent with the "less moving parts" mantra of EV proponents is the 'by wire' approach needlessly complicates and ADDS numerous components and points of potential failure. I realize these systems exist on more & more IC vehicles, but my point is the complexity & longevity questions. Still rocking the factory original mechanical throttle linkage on my 80-yr old truck, and I had to do nothing to it to have it working smoothly & linearly (it's also rather lengthy, as it crosses over to the pass side of the "throttle body", and is routed around the front of the engine).

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On 1/25/2020 at 12:09 PM, balthazar said:

^ Unfortunately and inconsistent with the "less moving parts" mantra of EV proponents is the 'by wire' approach needlessly complicates and ADDS numerous components and points of potential failure. I realize these systems exist on more & more IC vehicles, but my point is the complexity & longevity questions. Still rocking the factory original mechanical throttle linkage on my 80-yr old truck, and I had to do nothing to it to have it working smoothly & linearly (it's also rather lengthy, as it crosses over to the pass side of the "throttle body", and is routed around the front of the engine).

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I understand your point, I also believe as many do that the 80yr old truck was over engineered as we really did build things back then to truly last compared to many auto's in the last 40 years that I believe would never go the distance in lasting that long on mechanical linkage.

I also agree that some of the electronics are built cheaply to wear out and generate repair revenue for the dealerships.

There is plenty of evidence that TBW can be built to military grade spec and last way longer than people would think even in a war zone. Depends on if you want to pay or not.

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Any component can be made to any level of quality/longevity, but all else 'being equal' ; mechanical should outlast multi-component electronics every time. Permanently sealed/lubricated pivot points are not going to get contaminated/corroded or fail before electronics- which don't seem to ever meet 'military grade spec' for longevity; that's not a basis the military really designs on.

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On 1/24/2020 at 6:35 PM, USA-1 said:

For sure, I like the Rivian R1T a lot better, it's actually the best BEV truck so far in my opinion. Cybertruck is definitely more gimmicky if it's even the actual production truck Tesla would bring out.

Yep, I have really high hopes for the R1T. Hopefully my hopes aren't becoming too high and then I'll be disappointed but I think their whole business plan and partnership(s) have me thinking they will be very successful. 

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Depends on the pricing. Initial sales will likely be good, but once the ‘one-uppers’ get theirs, sales will fall off. Right now, it’s a high-priced entry and the volume is going to stay low.

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Rivian seems like it has the most potential to succeed, esp. with it's Amazon and Ford deals and having a plant...moreso than many of these other electric truck startups, a lot of them seem to be smoke and mirrors, more hype than substance..and anything with Chinese funding I'm skeptical of..

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22 minutes ago, balthazar said:

Depends on the pricing. Initial sales will likely be good, but once the ‘one-uppers’ get theirs, sales will fall off. Right now, it’s a high-priced entry and the volume is going to stay low.

Rivian had originally stated much higher starting prices that were in the high $70,000's, but at the San Fransico Road Show this last weekend RJ stated this: Company founder RJ Scaringe told Reuters in a chat that the electric R1T truck and its R1S SUV counterpart would cost less than originally announced. He didn't provide full pricing, but he indicated that a mid-range R1T with 300 miles of range and an electrochromic glass roof would sell for $69,000, while a comparable R1S would sell for $72,000. The automaker had pegged the starting prices for the R1T and R1S at $61,500 and $65,000 respectively.

https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/26/rivian-ev-prices-lower-than-first-announced/

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Yeah, looked into that, not good having a large percentage of Chinese based investors with a US So.Cal based tech. startup like this one. FTC probably needs to step in eventually or at least closely monitor the situation.

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31 minutes ago, USA-1 said:

Yeah, looked into that, not good having a large percentage of Chinese based investors with a US So.Cal based tech. startup like this one. FTC probably needs to step in eventually or at least closely monitor the situation.

Yes, another reason I like Rivian is truly US backed start up with no Chinese influence yet. One does have to wonder about Tesla and the affects China has had with him to push the building of cars there.

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45 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Rivian had originally stated much higher starting prices that were in the high $70,000's, but at the San Fransico Road Show this last weekend RJ stated this: Company founder RJ Scaringe told Reuters in a chat that the electric R1T truck and its R1S SUV counterpart would cost less than originally announced. He didn't provide full pricing, but he indicated that a mid-range R1T with 300 miles of range and an electrochromic glass roof would sell for $69,000, while a comparable R1S would sell for $72,000. The automaker had pegged the starting prices for the R1T and R1S at $61,500 and $65,000 respectively.

https://www.engadget.com/2020/01/26/rivian-ev-prices-lower-than-first-announced/

Very nice.

While 60k+ is well out of my price range, it isn't all THAT terrible considering what you're getting and the performance and packaging these offer. We will see how things pan out though. Maybe it turns into a huge flop, maybe they get 200k sales a year and sustain that. We shall see. 

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8 minutes ago, ccap41 said:

Very nice.

While 60k+ is well out of my price range, it isn't all THAT terrible considering what you're getting and the performance and packaging these offer. We will see how things pan out though. Maybe it turns into a huge flop, maybe they get 200k sales a year and sustain that. We shall see. 

Betting with building the Ford / Lincoln models the prices come down even more. Gut tells me that Ford will want to get the price lower asap.

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2 minutes ago, dfelt said:

Betting with building the Ford / Lincoln models the prices come down even more. Gut tells me that Ford will want to get the price lower asap.

Personally, I doubt it will ever go down but if it just stays the same over the course of 5 years or so and accounting for inflation, it will be "like" it goes down. 

We have no clue how low it will or won't be as a Ford or Lincoln. I think it is assumed it will be a Lincoln, from what I've read. That is just speculation though as Ford and Rivian haven't released anything about it yet. 

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