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I priced a piece of red oak a few weeks ago locally- got hired to make a free-standing 'bar countertop'. Not live edge but dimensionally rough cut; 6/4 x 11"-8' : $90. Place has stupendously beautiful raw material, plus makes select pieces of furniture. The exotic slabs, depending on species and visual interest, can be over $900 ea. One of their tables:

10 PRINT "LIVE EDGE"; 20 GOTO 10 RUN

Good!

I work with one Canadian and it is hilarious when he gets mad and lets out a string of cusswords punctuated with "eh"

@A Horse With No Name @Robert Hall @balthazar This company is up in a little town called LaConner, indian reservation, the guy uses recovered wood from the Ocean, buildings, forest, etc. I bought my wife her Jewelry box from here it is a work of Art. We want to one day after we remodel our house get one of his custom built square tables for 12 people. Just beautiful wood work. https://www.makerswoodworks.com/ I will also say that my wife and I love these two woodworking companies out of Victoria BC in Canada. https://www.houzz.com/pro/arosteguistudio/arostegui-studio-furniture-and-design http://www.arosteguistudio.com/arostegui-studio-home

See, that would disqualify it from my consideration right there.

I don't think that you will tire of the look at all.

Heh-heh... I'm glad I'm not still in the IT sweat shop Wells Fargo was in Chandler, AZ 10 years ago when I was there. On a team of 25 people, one died of a heart attack at age 35 and 2 others (45 and 58) had heart attacks in a 6 month stretch. The last two had their laptops in the hospital so they could keep working while ill (though they were off their usual 65hr a week output). 3 years there was enough for me.

Yes it took forever to get up and running but they are a major employer in the Miami Valley and still growing there are a few other companies in the old complex also but tiny in comparison. FUYAO was always Chinese though, also a plant in Mt. Zion, IL FUYAO GLASS AMERICA WE’RE AN OEM GLASS SUPPLIER TO ALL MAJOR AUTO MANUFACTURERS General Motors, Ford, BMW, Honda, Bentley and more all use Fuyao glass in their newly manufactured automobiles. When top of the line auto glass is required then Fuyao glass is what’s needed.

Live edge tables.. too trendy? We are shopping for a dining table and the wife likes them. I like the walnut ones but I don't know if I will tire of the look in 5 years.

You dont click your fingers to get their attention either... The French are cool people. They just want you to respect them and their language and culture. Isnt that what we all want? They do not care if you speak English. But they do care if you try to speak French to them. THAT goes a long way with them. Especially if you choose to LIVE in the province. All these years, decades, Ive heard English Canada brow beat them because they want to preserve their language and heritage...in Quebec... Im soooooo happy to see and read and hear what some English speaking North Americans are saying about our current legal and illegal immigration affairs that I almost piss my pants laughing daily on what excuses I hear from them. Kinda like the shoe is on the other foot... Life's little ironies...

General Motors got a rude awakening if they picked up a copy of the Detroit Free Press or Detroit News. Right on the front page is a large ad by Canadian union Unifor accusing GM executives of having the lack of support toward Canadian and U.S. plant workers after announcing certain products would be "unallocated" and bringing up the possible worry of plant closures. One ad says, "U.S. and Canadian workers made GM," that follows with the question, "Why should our jobs and our products go to Mexico? Keep our plants open." Automotive News notes that the ads weren't in any Candian papers. The most likely reason for that is that Unifor officials would be meeting with GM today at the Renaissance Center. “GM needs to know that we are not accepting their announcement. It is crystal clear to myself and the leadership of the union that GM is leaving Canada. The newspaper ads are to let them know we are dead serious,” said Unifor president Jerry Dias. Dias said the ads are to show GM that it will have “a real problem” selling new vehicles to consumers on either side of the border starting next year. “GM has betrayed consumers in Canada and the United States. People are finally saying to GM, ‘You have gone too far.’ This is going on on both sides of the border,” he said. GM in an emailed statement to Automotive News said, "The GM restructuring decisions are extremely difficult for all of us in Oshawa, but we believe the best approach is to work together to support our employees including support for local training and transition initiatives in the Durham Region. We remain strongly committed to Canada and will continue to engage in dialogue with Unifor." GM also confirmed the meeting with Unifor but declined to provide any details about it. Kristin Dziczek, vice president of Industry, Labor & Economics at the Center for Automotive Research said Unifor faces an uphill battle with GM as their negotiations don't till 2020, a year after the UAW does theirs. "The UAW is going to go after any new product allocations for their two plants that are set to close and others that are underutilized," she said. "If there's product to be got, the UAW is going to go after it first." Dziczek also notes that Unifor's ads have "somewhat have a point" regarding GM's plants in Mexico, which are more utilized than many plants in Canada and the U.S. "They have to look like they're fighting like mad, and there are lots of ways of doing that. This is one way." We have a picture of the ad from the Detroit Free Press below if you're interested in what it looks like. Source: Automotive News (Subscription Required) View full article

I love this.....this is what happens when you try to go cheap...and it will burn. GM seems to forget who makes the quality product. Coming from a UAW family-this hits home with me. IF they try to make this about the money, it will cost them more than sales... This is not rocket science folks. Cruze sales down? How about sending the Cruze to Mexico and bring the hot selling Equinox here? Bolt would do just fine in D Ham. Couldn’t hurt to build some trucks at Oshawa..... I know how automotive works-and what can and should be done. Would be nice to keep those loyal GM buying workers/family buying....don’t play us dumb, GM. I am but maybe a week or two from getting a GM product. I want to see how this plays out....could be a mind changer. I want to have passion in my product-or it is simply not worth it. If I just want another CUV, heck, I cold just buy a Kia. It just seems GM wants to play stupid at least once a decade.......

I, for one, ABSOLUTELY can deny that a civi-rolla is "built like a tank"- they're cheap, plasticy, disposable appliances. And there's no myth about toyota recalling 50 million plus vehicles over the last 15 years for horrendously bad engineering. The frame rot fiasco is a personal fave I can't get past- that was a 1910-level mistake... but in 2010. We could examine how shitty japanese cars from the '70s ALSO were if the tin worm hadn't eat them all into rust flakes.

IMO, appearance packages definitely have their place/appeal. If they didn't, every single performance package wouldn't ALSO include an appearance pack. But you'd need a min of 40 HP to ever feel it for sure.

I sympathize with this... Yet...the North American market is in fact a free market system. The North American way does not allow for monopolies...(lets leave the obvious exceptions as this discussion will go in another direction. Lets just keep it simple and talk about in theory...) The North American people want and demand choice... Let us be honest...General Motors, Ford and Chryco really did take advantage of the North American people. Let us be honest. The Big 3 over the century of building cars really did some serious backstabbing to their own, really cheated the masses with piss poor quality products, let their dealership network become stealerships, screw over their workers...even Henry Ford who was once a God for his workers ended up being a Devil... Over a century of this. And especially building crap cars in the mid 1970s all the way to, let us be honest...up until 2008...(There was never a good reason for the Northstar V8 to be have been finally fixed of its problems in the mid 2000s when they GM knew what the problems were in the mid 1990s. GM could blame the consumer for crappy servicing, but ultimately, GM knew better... And that is just with one problem of many. In another thread, the one where I went bat shyte crazy, there was talk about GM's screwey key ignition problems. Yes. Yes. Foreign manufacturers have done the same. Hyundai...that thread is about Hyundais... What I find deplorable though, is that the foreign makes also have built crap. In their home markets too. But those folk are proud of their industry as where Americans lost that pride. (Canadians too lost that pride for American cars). What I find deplorable is that Americans continue to self hate... BUT I DO NOT BLAME THEM!!! So...we find our situation that we are in....but make no mistake about it. GM did that to themselves... About closing down these 5 North American plants. This is more of a middle finger salute to Donald Trump than it is to American and Canadian workers. But its these 18 000 workers that ultimately get it up the ass... The next step is this: Do we stop buying GM vehicles completely? Tough call...maybe not a good choice. So how does GM convince the American and Canadian buying public that GM cares? How does GM mend the pain of building shytyy cars in the past and how does GM build cars in North America without screwing its worker while making profits... Mexico...you know, its close to slave labour...how does a politician and a CEO take care of that problem without having to have factories in the US leave for Mexico all in the while a politician trying to balance trade equality and wanting the best for its workers and its own factories and its own industry? Alls I could tell you is good luck in convincing the person who bought 3 Toyota Corollas or 3 Honda Civics in his lifetime, and those Japanese imports did succeed in getting 300 000 reliable miles to buy an American Ford Tempo or Chevy Citation or Pontiac Grand Prix DOHC 3.4 with head gasket problems or transmission failures that their neighbors always bitched about...or my wife's Fusion getting yet another recall on it...I got this new recall in the fall. Sure Ford will fix it, free, but this is how Ford loses money on the Fusion. And if this was before 2009, I would be left with the repair bill to fix it. So...the Big 3 CONTINUE to phoque around with reliability... I know I know....Honda and Toyota also have recalls and their reliability is also questionable. But...you cannot deny that a Civic or Corolla, perception or otherwise, common knowledge or myth, a Honda Civic and a Toyota Corolla are built like tanks and will never let down their owners... Try saying that about a domestic car (not truck) and see who DOESNT laugh at you...

We're still assuming the supposed cancelled vehicles were all unprofitable. And that other brand's vehicles in production are profitable. GM's pre-tax income in 2017 was just under $12 billion, but 'extraodinaries' resulted in a 3.8B loss last year. The 2 years before that GM's net income was in the $9-10B range.

^ Look at all the German & Japanese plants here- those jobs could've gone to citizens where the respective HQs are. They couldn't care less about the workers; only the profits for the shareholders and bonuses for incompetent, corrupt executives.

The common thought today is that the sedan market in the U.S. is dying. If that's the case, the 2020 Toyota Corolla hasn't given any reasons that it should stick around. While styling could be considered bolder over the prior model, it is still bland in person. Front and rear facias nearly mirror each other in a Studebaker-like "is it coming or going?" way. The styling of the interior hasn't changed in any significant way though the materials are somewhat improved. Mediocre engine choices, unlike the 2020 Kia Soul, leave little to be excited over. The addition of a hybrid option is interesting, but only for people who think the Prius is too fugly to drive, otherwise, they would just buy the real thing. The Corolla is the best selling car nameplate in history, but this latest version leaves little reason for that record to continue. In a tough small sedan market, it is going to take more than just more of the same to move the needle. Dull, conventional, boring..... that's my opinion of the 2020 Corolla View full article

Good to see workers fight back..don't know if it will be effective or not. GM (and other manufacturers) would move all production to 3rd world cheap labor locations if they could get away with it, they have no interest in local manufacturing, they just want to churn out product as fast and cheaply as possible. They couldn't care less about the workers; only the profits for the shareholders and bonuses for incompetent, corrupt executives.

It would be better if half the import buyers would buy GM products instead. Last 40 years have been rather painful. While I cannot blame Unifor for this publicity stunt, they would be better off getting their fellow Canadians to stop buying Japanese.

Very well done. If GM workers can convince Americans and Canadians to boycott their product and forcing GM to hemmorage profits and recommit to local manufacturing...it would be one of the last hurrahs of labour conquering capital...damn if it’s Unionized they will want to burn GM down to the ground if nothing is done.

I do not believe nature/natural can ever wear out its welcome. The live edge stiff I see is still fabulously expensive, when it comes down to WalMart-level pricing and is mass produced (which really isn't possible), then maybe.

Glad to see someone fighting back.

Since I am in a good mood...shame we don't get this here. I have built somne live edge furniture...it is a lot of fun to make.

I feel his pain

Damn the only guy here who loses it occasionally is from Connecticut.. We are convinced he will be the first employee here to pass on the job, likely from a stroke. Has been saying "I've had enough of this place, I'm going to quit. Bangs the desk, F&*^Q@#$( this etc etc" for 10 years around once a week. He only gets away with it because he puts up decent sales numbers. He is our canary in the coal mine for citrix and office 365 that is for sure.

AT4 is mostly an appearance package. 15 HP? You'll never notice it when it already has 420 other horses.

I don't know where GM package planners' heads are these days, but it isn't in a good place. I'm an old-time GM guy and I have a hard time seeing the value in GM offerings these days They just did the Tacoma.

Interesting...would look good in a log cabin or lodge..

That's pretty cool...

Alfa, Maserati and Fiat are dead brands walking, can't see a point in investing further in them, though they probably will. As far as a GM I6, I don't see it happening. They have the DOHC V6s which works fine for RWD and FWD applications. The Atlas died with the old GM--the plant that built it and the plant that built the GMT-360 long closed/demolished, the tooling probably long scrapped or landfilled. Part of the legacy of that decade of failure for GM. I don't expect major new ICE engine families from GM in the future, as Mary Barra has stated GM's future is EVs and AVs..

I saw the movie White Men Can't Jump for the first time. I was shocked to see some cool muscle cars in it... Chevelle Charger Olds Cutlass Convertible Pontiac Trans Am I was mildly entertained by the movie. very 1990s dialogue. Very 1990s premise. (DUH! Made in 1992) I enjoyed it but I have a feeling I enjoyed more because of the pleasant easter eggs that were these cars.

OH NOZ! AND RITE BEFUR X-MAS! HOW HEARTLESS!! HOW GREEDY!! THEY SHOULD KEEP THE FACTORIES RUNNING AND BUILDING, AND JUST STORE THE UNWANTED VEHICLES IN STADIUM PARKING LOTS, OFFERING THEM UP AS SLEEPING BERTHS FOR THE HOMELESS!! BECAUSE; CORPORATE MONSTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A good concealment for me recently occurred. In the front row at the symphony last Saturday night, trapped gas was released during the standing ovation at the end of the performance. Like Mr AHWNN, I enjoy partaking in spicy food, especially Asian curries. I have to temper my enjoyment of such food with the real possibity of violent magma flows from my rear end—the heat of a 1000 suns burning my sphincter and delicate tissues, sometimes accompanied by violent nausea. Copious use of Imodium and Pepto Bismol helps prevent such toxic eruptions. Perhaps the most powerful emission I had was once whilst walking in London, standing at a viewpoint overlooking the river, hours and hours of trapped flatulence (after the 10 1/2 hr flight from Phoenix, train trip into the city, etc.). There were a couple of people standing a foot or so behind me before, after I turned and they had moved probably 12-15 feet behind me. I didn’t intentionally cut loose then, but it happened.

I never conceal, I own up and say that I produce natural gas because there’s constant chemical reactions occurring that result in gaseous products and the ability to perform work. Bad smells means the worst of it is exiting and not being retained internally. Good. Mans good fart smells means good gut bacteria and vitality. Also good. I’ve never had a bad fart ever.

Sounds like an excellent idea, they can replace the Pentastar and Hemi with this new engine in any of their rear drive vehicles. I imagine they will use the e-torque system from the Ram with this.

Good review, not sure if we posted this elsewhere here. last few days have been a blur.

Interesting technology, should save a ton of money and help the environment at the same time...

Again.. when it is weighed without the dressed configuration . Add in other things and the weight goes up. BTW.. these two vehicles both have S/C'd OHV engines and both will F@CK up any one of Benzes comparable configs.. still costing $10Ks less.. NOW THAT.. IS EFFICIENCY

5 grand for intake and exhaust? Doesn't the AT4 already come with some sweet off-road tires? What value am I missing? This looks like a raping from GM to the buyers.

The problem for Toyota is that the Civic does appliance just as well but in a more interesting way. The Mazda 3 does appliance well but in a much more luxurious way. And the Cruze... well.... nevermind about that.

Alberta voted in the NDP. I keep looking out the window for locust plagues.

a Job is a Job.. and next time U complain about what U have to wear to work.. think about what this guy has to go thru just to leave the house without people making fun of him.. including his kids

Picture taken so no one will say I was REALLY drunk and seeing things when I tell the story later at a bar in Kent Narrows when a duck just waddles his ass in and chills for a minute. I offered him a drink.. but he had already had a few too many..

This is my cat Calvin. I took out my phone to get a new picture of him to show my little niece, and he got real excited about my phone and grabbed it. Now my cat has a selfie. He also once stood up and gave me an unsolicited, completely deliberate slap-five for ripping on my girlfriend. She has been jealous of that moment ever since.

Logical thinking is a lost ability.

Cannot wait for windows 10 to get here as the current build I am using is awesome. Just need the final version now.