[Moto_08]

Don't talk loud about the new Tundra lets just not talk about it all everytime we say something isn't good enough it backfires. Look at the Ridgeline I don't like it either and have no idea why it's truck of the year.

This post has been edited by Moto_08: 22 July 2006 - 09:53 PM

[bowtie_dude]

You're probably looking at a $40k Tundra there. Lets see what the Z71/Denali interiors look like before we make comparisons.

[network engineer]

I love the GMC. That is a nice truck.

The 'Rado is alright. I like it's look -- like, not love; it reminds me of the second-generation S-10 for '94. The extended cab looks so much better than the crew cab.

And, what this? Two different interiors for uplevel trucks and base-level trucks? Whoa. Didn't see that coming. The base-level interior keeps a similar design to the GMT-800, but is lightyears ahead.

(A thought: put the work truck interior in the Tahoe for the base-level models, decontent things a bit, and one could avoid a hefty price tag and increse sales that much more.)

Lets hope the GMT-900 magic rubs off on the NG GMT-355 trucks and possible SUVs.
You can't be serious. GM losing sales to that? That thing is a rolling eyesore in all aspects and I'd bet quality will be poor to boot.

There's "playing it safe" and "going balls to the wall." If "going balls to the wall" brings crap like the Tundra, I'll "play it safe" with the GMT-900s, thank you.

Ouch! I don't think I said the Tundra was balls to the wall, did I? Nope there's my quote, looks like I didn't. You can't honestly tell me that based on these pics that it looks like GM really brought their best game, can you? I didn't say the trucks were bad, What I was attempting to convey was, that the trucks look like GM played it safe. I love GM, no doubt and would never buy a Tundra. I'm just sick of GM bringing out kickass concept trucks and then lowering the bar with the production vehicles.

[network engineer]

You're probably looking at a $40k Tundra there.  Lets see what the Z71/Denali interiors look like before we make comparisons.

I'm sure we are looking at the top of the line Tundra. I just think it was a bigger leap over the previous generation.

[Northstar]

I'm sure we are looking at the top of the line Tundra.  I just think it was a bigger leap over the previous generation.

The Tundra was a big leap, and partly because the old one was so crappy, but how can you tell that it's a bigger leap if you haven't seen the top-of-the-line GM interiors? The picture that you can see the dash is the bottom feeder, and is totally different than the top models.

[RandyMN]

I've owned 6 Silverados since 1991....IMO the best word to describe what I've seen so far for the '07 Silverado is "boring". I love my Honda Ridgeline though.

[sgfootball2006]

The Tundra was a big leap, and partly because the old one was so crappy, but how can you tell that it's a bigger leap if you haven't seen the top-of-the-line GM interiors? The picture that you can see the dash is the bottom feeder, and is totally different than the top models.

The top of the line models have the same interiors as the suv's

[Northstar]

The top of the line models have the same interiors as the suv's

Do you know that for sure? It just says they're similar, but the door panels look the same or very similar, and the center console too. Either way they'll be very close.

[sgfootball2006]

Do you know that for sure? It just says they're similar, but the door panels look the same or very similar, and the center console too. Either way they'll be very close.

I dont know that for sure but I have read it and it looks the same on the extended cab with the doors open. It may vary a little bit like you say, but overall I think it is the same style.

[bowtie_dude]

And the same thing is probably going to happen with the trucks that happens with every other GM vehicle. No matter how nice the surrounded trim is, you've still got an ugly ass flat-black stereo insert and HVAC controls that GM has just slid into a square-shaped hole.

Is it so fucking hard to give these bowtie radios friggin piano black faces? GET A CLUE GM!

EDIT: Censored myself. GM's cost-cutting just pisses me off to no end. The Enclave interior is going to look like total ass thanks that the same damn flat-black radio/HVAC insert. Meanwhile the Lexus RX has had a better looking dash since its MCE, and its almost due for a new model.

This post has been edited by bowtie_dude: 22 July 2006 - 10:42 PM

[network engineer]

The Tundra was a big leap, and partly because the old one was so crappy, but how can you tell that it's a bigger leap if you haven't seen the top-of-the-line GM interiors? The picture that you can see the dash is the bottom feeder, and is totally different than the top models.

You're right about the interior. That I can't tell, but the exterior styling was definately a greater improvement for both Ford and Toyota. Dodge really dropped the ball on the new Ram though. People were expecting something really great there and they delivered the same old truck.

[network engineer]

And the same thing is probably going to happen with the trucks that happens with every other GM vehicle.  No matter how nice the surrounded trim is, you've still got an ugly ass flat-black stereo insert and HVAC controls that GM has just slid into a square-shaped hole.

Is it so fucking hard to give these bowtie radios friggin piano black faces?  GET A CLUE GM!

EDIT:  Censored myself.  GM's cost-cutting just pisses me off to no end.  The Enclave interior is going to look like total ass thanks that the same damn flat-black radio/HVAC insert.  Meanwhile the Lexus RX has had a better looking dash since its MCE, and its almost due for a new model.

Here Here! I second the motion!

[FAPTurbo]

As many people say, I'll wait to see them in jpeg's and give my opinion then.

But I will say, that compared to the overwrought Toyota Tundra, these trucks are conservative looking, but in a strong, silent way.

Let Toyota have it's showoff design.. The real muscle you buy a truck for comes in these rigs.

[ponchoman49]

Not sure what to think of the styling but it sure looks better than the dump on wheels Tundra. The 4.3 is a joke along with the ancient 4 speed automatic. It's also rated at 5 less hp than earlier Silverados with the 4.3. The 4.8 is still at 285 hp and the 5.3 is rated at last years all alloy 5.3 at 310 hp. So much for the huge power increases that were rumored earlier this year! This seems like another half assed attempt at an update though the interior looks better and higher quality. If I were GM I would axe the 4.3 and 4 speed automatic right away from civilain models and instead make an AFM 4.8 std equipment and a 5 or 6 speed automatic available as an option. Why do we still have 1996 designed 4.3 Vortecs and 1982 designed 4 speed automatics in 2007?

[Bazzy]

As far as i know, Toyota has always produced a tank of a truck. I own a Tacoma, it's been through just about everything. Although i'm sure the first year the new Tundra is out, it will have a few problems. Just like the 2005 Tacoma did, but have all been fixed in the 2006 models. I really like the look of the GMC, the Chevy looks about the same as the spy shots. The interior is bland, but did you honestly expect anything else from Chevrolet?

[wjfox]

I guess I'm just not a truck guy. I don't find anything particularly attractive about these designs. They look like pickup trucks. I think the Tundra looks a little bit better, but it still looks like a pick up truck. I just hope GM go the details right on these things; that they do their jobs as trucks better. Then they will sell a bunch of them, because obviously America loves pick up trucks, even if they all look about the same.

[pow]

I still prefer the Avalanche or the current Denali.

[jbartley]

Heh, anyone for a response over one syllable?

i'm LUVIN IT!

it looks like they are saving pics of the nicer interiors for later.

And people shouldn't compare the tundra interior to these. It's too damn busy, and talk about material overkill, these are trucks, not sports cars.

[bobo]

Interior design looks good. I still don't like the oversized Colorado exterior styling. I might even prefer the current truck. The new Avalanche looks so much cleaner than the Silverado.

[bowtie_dude]

i'm LUVIN IT!

it looks like they are saving pics of the nicer interiors for later.

And people shouldn't compare the tundra interior to these.  It's too damn busy, and talk about material overkill, these are trucks, not sports cars.

Why not? The media sure as hell will be, so GM needs to make sure their interiors are up to snuff. The same bland, cheap matte-black radio insert isn't going to cut it, its that simple. No matter what GM does to the rest of the interior, that radio insert always makes it look worse, simply because they do NOTHING to fix it. They could swap out the buttons and face for some faux-aluminum or piano-black, but no, they just pull the same radio the put in the ass-tastic Impala and slap it in the Silverado. I mean, its not like GM isn't CAPABLE of making it piano-black.



Same exact radio, only in the Sky they put a piano-black finish on the face. Its amazing to me that out of GMs interior range of vehicles, the Sky is the only vehicle with an interior that totally blows the competition out of the water. Hell, even the radio insert they were putting in the Equinox had an aluminum face on it!!!!

I just don't get it.