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V8 Acuras May Be Closer to Reality

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V8 Acuras May Be Closer to Reality

Acura is moving closer to fitting its vehicles with bigger engines, including possibly a V-8.

A V-6 is the largest engine that Honda's luxury division now offers. Some company executives think that is a problem.

Acura has announced that the next-generation NSX sports car, due in 2009, will be powered by a 10-cylinder engine. But Hirohide Ikeno, president of Honda R&D Americas Inc., said the company is considering V-8s, too.

"That is our direction," he said last week during a reception for the opening of Honda's advanced design studio in Pasadena, Calif.

Ikeno said it's important that Acura have bigger engines. He added: "I'm pushing for it."

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Next step: Rename the RL 'Legend' and make it look like its worth $50,000.

Next step: Murder the Acura's Calfornia Design Studio members who did that stupid concept.

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Uh... does this mean Acura could be heading for RWD in some of their higher end models?

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Next step: Rename the RL 'Legend' and make it look like its worth $50,000.

Next step: Murder the Acura's Calfornia Design Studio members who did that stupid concept.

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I LOVED the Legend.

It's great to hear they're getting an 8.

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Acura has always marched to the beat of their own drum as far as their engines are concerned. That has made them a unique aspect to the automotive world, but I guess that doesn't cut it in this day in age, especially when the US market calls for a "bigger is better" mentality. I am eager to see what they do with their V8's. If their V6's can perform with some V8's out there on the market, I can only imagine what their V8's can do.

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Finally. Honda will hopefully have a RWD platform someday to accompany this possible V8 engine. For now though, its most likely going to be paired up with the SH-AWD if the V8 ever comes to light.

The thing about Honda is they're a great engineering based company. It's their marketing that needs an overhaul. The SH-AWD system is great and highly sophisticated, too bad the most innovative name they could think of was "Super-Handling." In a class segment where looks and names are everything, you need something more impressive sounding.

Another thing is that Honda has 3 hybrids which barely anyone knows about. The Civic Hybrid is probably the most recognized Honda hybrid but the Accord and Insight are just down and out. If Honda could just get a stronger marketing department I believe they would have an improved public image other than just being safe, conservative Honda.

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Fuc*ing hypocrites.

"We're all about our principles of FWD and small 4 cylinders & V6s"

except when the world wakes up to the superiority of RWD & V8s.

...then we'll jst jump on the NEW bandwagon. Loosers.

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oh panther, admit it, you fantasize about a v8 body on frame hardtop honda.......

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That's probably the weirdest image I've had in my head all day. I guess that means BOF Honda police cruisers too :P

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Fuc*ing hypocrites.

"We're all about our principles of FWD and small 4 cylinders & V6s"

except when the world wakes up to the superiority of RWD & V8s.

...then we'll jst jump on the NEW bandwagon. Loosers.

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Ok, you critisize Honda for having underpowered cars, now you're critisizing them for jumping the bandwagon.

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Though I agree with Polish_Kris' about the "bandwagon" comment being a little unfair, I would say that in general, companies that present themselves as "green" or "fuel-efficient" better be prepared for some serious flack when they ad a big gas-guzzling V8 to their lineup.

Getting that out of the way, Honda finally has a V8 engine but is it too little too late? Honda is the last of the big three Japanese companies to come out with a V8 and the other guys are moving ahead at a fast rate at improving their offerings to match the domestics.

It will be interesting to see what they're going to put this in other then the Acuras.

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companies that present themselves as "green" or "fuel-efficient" better be prepared for some serious flack when they ad a big gas-guzzling V8 to their lineup.

Gas-guzzling V8? We're not talking about a big 6.0L V8 in a giant SUV. Chances are this V8 will displace around 4.0-4.5L, and have a bunch of new-fangled technologies to make it very efficient (like a-Vtec with continuously variable valve lift and timing control).

Getting that out of the way, Honda finally has a V8 engine but is it too little too late?  Honda is the last of the big three Japanese companies to come out with a V8 and the other guys are moving ahead at a fast rate at improving their offerings to match the domestics. 

Too little too late for the company that has had 10 consecutive years of record sales and what looks to be an 11th year soon (they're already at a 3.6% increase from last year at this time, only one month to go)?

It will be interesting to see what they're going to put this in other then the Acuras.

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No Honda's will receive a V8, this is just for a couple of the Acura's (I'm guessing FMC RL first, then maybe the MDX).

Fuc*ing hypocrites.

"We're all about our principles of FWD and small 4 cylinders & V6s"

except when the world wakes up to the superiority of RWD & V8s.

...then we'll jst jump on the NEW bandwagon. Loosers.

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?? Where does it say this?

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Gas-guzzling V8? We're not talking about a big 6.0L V8 in a giant SUV. Chances are this V8 will displace around 4.0-4.5L, and have a bunch of new-fangled technologies to make it very efficient (like a-Vtec with continuously variable valve lift and timing control).

Too little too late for the company that has had 10 consecutive years of record sales and what looks to be an 11th year soon (they're already at a 3.6% increase from last year at this time, only one month to go)?

No Honda's will receive a V8, this is just for a couple of the Acura's (I'm guessing FMC RL first, then maybe the MDX).

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I'm going to answer all of your remarks in order as best as I can:

I should've put quotations around Gas-guzzling. As of recent, V-8s have been getting bad press even though a lot of the time it is completely uncalled for. I'm just stating what we know the greenies will say.

Also, by too little too late, will people accept a V-8 with the supposed shift in the auto industry towards fuel efficient V-6, I-4 engines? I've been reading so much about this trend in Motortrend and CarandDriver that it must be true. Right? (SARCASM) Take a look at the recent Silverado test for an example in Motortrend.

Also, You can't guarantee success from a new tech like a V-8 and now that the ice caps are melting as a direct result of v-8 engines (MORE SARCASM), is it bad timing to come out with a V-8? I'm just putting these questions out there to have people think.

You never know about the V-8. It may be Acura now, but in a few years the Pilot or the Ridgeline may get it. I wouldn't count them out as candidates just because they're not Acuras.

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If Honda made a BOF, V8 powered hardtop it would most likely

still be FWD, ugly as sin and the sheet metal would be made of

aluminum foil & dental floss just like all the other 'tin cans' they

make, thus I would still be mostly repulsed by it.

But in some bizzaro world, if the 1996 Caprice Classic wore a

Honda badge but was otherwise unchanged I'd still love it.

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i think the funny thing is they're planning on skipping a v8 for a v10, then they may make a v8 after that... :lol:

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If Honda made a BOF, V8 powered hardtop it would most likely

still be FWD, ugly as sin and the sheet metal would be made of

aluminum foil & dental floss just like all the other 'tin cans' they

make, thus I would still be mostly repulsed by it.

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I just can't get any love around here. :(:(:(

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I just can't get any love around here.  :(  :(  :(

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Mr. Toronado feels lonely around here? I've got a nice warm empty spot for it in my garage...

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I just can't get any love around here.  :(  :(  :(

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The Toronado is one of the exceptions to the rule.

Here's the rule of FWD:

FWD cars are always inherantly inferior to RWD vehicles...

...unless at least one of the following criteria are met:

1. The car is Pre-WWII, esp. if it is a "boattail" or "coffin nose"

2. The vehicle is powered by a inline-8 motor

3. The motor is mounted longitudinally in the chassis. (lengthwise)

4. The power from the flywheel is transfered to the TH425 via a "Morris Chain"

5. Razorback or Bustleback styling (which automaticaly means criteria 3 & 4 is met)

6. If it is one of the XP-784 prototypes.

7. One & only one truly great car exists that has transverse mounted motor: 1959 MINI.

So please stop assuming I hate the toronado, Cords, '67 Eldorados

and such.... those cars were cool because their FWd was smart,

beneficial and it set them appart.... instead of making them just like

every other car on the road. I could go on & on & on but I will not.

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hypocrisy

SYLLABICATION: hy·poc·ri·sy

PRONUNCIATION:  h-pkr-s

NOUN: Inflected forms: pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness. 2. An act or instance of such falseness.

ETYMOLOGY: Middle English ipocrisie, from Old French, from Late Latin hypocrisis, play-acting, pretense, from Greek hupokrisis, from hupokrnesthai, to play a part, pretend : hupo-, hypo- + krnesthai, to explain, middle voice of krnein, to decide, judge; see krei- in Appendix I.

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The Toronado is one of the exceptions to the rule.

Here's the rule of FWD:

FWD cars are always inherantly inferior to RWD vehicles...

...unless at least one of the following criteria are met:

1. The car is Pre-WWII, esp. if it is a "boattail" or "coffin nose"

2. The vehicle is powered by a inline-8 motor

3. The motor is mounted longitudinally in the chassis. (lengthwise)

4. The power from the flywheel is transfered to the TH425 via a "Morris Chain"

5. Razorback or Bustleback styling (which automaticaly means criteria 3 & 4 is met)

6. If it is one of the XP-784 prototypes.

7. One & only one truly great car exists that has transverse mounted motor: 1959 MINI.

So please stop assuming I hate the toronado, Cords, '67 Eldorados

and such.... those cars were cool because their FWd was smart,

beneficial and it set them appart.... instead of making them just like

every other car on the road. I could go on & on & on but I will not.

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When I become as rich as Jay Leno, I'm going to build a transverse mounted, I8, Toronado Wagon, just to piss you off. :ohyeah::lol:

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FWD cars are always inherantly inferior to RWD vehicles.

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All Acura's, with the exception of maybe the TSX, are moving to AWD (and I wouldn't be surprised at all if the TSX will be AWD too). All Honda cars (with the exception of sports cars) will remain FWD since they are, after all, economy cars. FWD has a lot of advantages over RWD in that area and I'm sure you know that, you're just being sarcastic.

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