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Awesome video, amazing the ribbed box'd frame around the wheels. It is an intersting way of building and exciting. I feel for OCNBLU as repair on these auto's will be a nightmare I think. Wonder if that egg crate brace member can be replaced. I under stand the need for crumple zones, but WOW talk about the repair work on the car.

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Although the CT6 will be naturally positioned to challenge the Mercedes-Benz S-ClassBMW 7 Series, and Audi A8 club, we’re told it’s truly aiming to bridge the gap between traditional luxury midsize and full-size sedans. Research indicates there are consumers seeking a big car that effortlessly combines the interior space of a full-sizer with the on-road agility more becoming of a midsizer,

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a definitive quote if ever there was one.  and makes a bunch of sense. This will be thrown into comparisons with the aforementioned German 3.. I think that in terms of everything outside of serious extras.. it will shine among them. The 7series, for instance, is really nothing to write home about this generation. I look forward to that comparo.. where the only real gripe they should be able to come up with will be the non-availability of soft close doors.. in which even I am perplexed by to say the least.

 

Cadillac gave an est 5.3 seconds to 60 in the LGW (TT3.6L) but I am gonna go out on a limb as say that I bet U see times in the area of 4.7-4.9 when the mags get a hold of it for an instrumented test. 

 

 

interior looks damn nice, definitely on level with the Germans... sorry Smoke

 

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Add two more glowing reviews here:

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/2016-cadillac-ct6-review/

http://jalopnik.com/the-cadillac-ct6-this-is-it-1694813397

Jalopnik in particular appeared stoked about it, calling it a break from copying the Germans while retaining the dynamics you would expect from them-the best of both worlds. "Resplendent American luxury" were their exact words.

And when you can build one online with the 3.6, AWD, reclining rear seats, and eight-speed automatic for 64 grand it's kinda hard to argue that.

Truly, a fantastic job by Cadillac.

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^^ No doubt. From C&D I had to yank these tidbits. 

 

 

 

Well, when the CT6 was unveiled at the 2015 New York auto show, the design was criticized as somewhat bland. But auto-show turntables don’t tend to flatter cars that make their statement with proportions rather than glitzy adornment. The CT6 is best appreciated in the real world, preferably in motion, whether it be catching the reflections of downtown L.A. skyscrapers or charging along one of California’s challenging mountain roads
In some cars, driving modes are a gimmick but the CT6’s are legit: In the default Tour mode the CT6 is genteel and smooth, but Sport mode sets the powertrain into a considerably more excited state, with the transmission especially eager to play, holding gears and summoning throttle-blipped downshifts more readily than a number of so-called sports sedans we can think of.

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A minute gripe about it, and one that can be fixed with just a different color choice, which I would do anyway, buuuuuuut the light tan one in the Motor Trend review had a black center on the steering wheel that didn't blend well with me, any of the black that they used in the light tan interior. I know that's being picky but if that's the only real downside I noticed..then it's one heck of a good looking car. I'd just get a black interior anyway and not have to worry about that. :D

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Cadillac, imo, nailed this one.

 

The price of the Platinum, along with all its amenities is priced dead on with the Lexus LS460 F AWD
$83,325 vs CT6 Platinum model starting at $83,465. These are most comparable too.. as the HP rating of the Lexus V8 are 386 hp/367 ft-lbs. versus the Cadillac TTV6 at 400HP/400 ft-lbs.
The CT6 took mandatory luxury features and space the Europeans and Lexus, then.. encroached and clobbered the ideals put forth by the upcoming Ford.. er.. Mercury.. er Lincoln Continental. The Price point the Continental will have to come in will have to be in the high $30Ks… the Germans all come in in the high $70ks. Their starting point is where CT6’s end point is. The CT7/CT8 picks up from where CT6 leaves off. This is like a one two punch of massive proportions because it redefines the ideas of luxury without even having to call it “niche.” Bottom line is that Cadillac  split the this  tier of Luxury Sedans.. the segment into two. 
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Yes, there is a hidden message to this particular GIF I chose to state and salute my approval of the CT6...

Germany never could build a quality Whiskey! :roflmao:

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I like how Casa broke down the marketing strategy for the CT6.

Its dead on.

And seeing how Cadillac positioned  the 1st and 2nd gen CTS, this strategy seems similar.

I think the CT6 will kill it and I think it will steal some sales away from the Germans...

Maybe the CT6 dashboard does not have the wow factor of the Germans,namely the Bimmer and the M-B...but to me...that kind of flash is like silicone breasts...nice to look at, nice to fondle, but you do tire of them quite fast.



 

A little movie clip that the CT6 made me think of...

 

And this scene too.

 

 

 

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Yes, there is a hidden message to this particular GIF I chose to state and salute my approval of the CT6...

Germany never could build a quality Whiskey! :roflmao:

 

 

Im sure SMK will defend that statement by bringing in

 

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The critical thing is that the auto journos are getting the message that no, this isn't a faux-German copycat of the S-Class or 7-Series or A8. Rather, what it is is an American luxury car without any excuses, whether in handling, or ride, or engineering efficiency, or styling, or room, or pricing. It is almost like an a la carte chassis: if you want an oversized 5-Series for handling, get the RWD and 260hp for 54 grand and 3700 pounds. If you want a car that will give Lexus nightmares belly up for a Platinum.

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Cadillac, imo, nailed this one.

 

The price of the Platinum, along with all its amenities is priced dead on with the Lexus LS460 F AWD
$83,325 vs CT6 Platinum model starting at $83,465. These are most comparable too.. as the HP rating of the Lexus V8 are 386 hp/367 ft-lbs. versus the Cadillac TTV6 at 400HP/400 ft-lbs.
The CT6 took mandatory luxury features and space the Europeans and Lexus, then.. encroached and clobbered the ideals put forth by the upcoming Ford.. er.. Mercury.. er Lincoln Continental. The Price point the Continental will have to come in will have to be in the high $30Ks… the Germans all come in in the high $70ks. Their starting point is where CT6’s end point is. The CT7/CT8 picks up from where CT6 leaves off. This is like a one two punch of massive proportions because it redefines the ideas of luxury without even having to call it “niche.” Bottom line is that Cadillac  split the this  tier of Luxury Sedans.. the segment into two. 

 

 

 

So you believe the Continental should price drop significantly from the current MKS?

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Without singling out any particular competition from anywhere... It would be exceedingly difficult to challenge a car head-on that, when priced at 64 grand has:

-a 3.6V6

-AWD

-an eight-speed automatic

-adjustable and massaging rear seats

-weighs in at just around 4,000 pounds.

Now, make said car RWD for sunbelt states and take away the BarcaLounger back and you still have the eight speed and even lower weight, despite "only" packing 260hp in his guise.

And at that point it only costs 54 grand.

This car is gonna make some folks think HARD.

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Well this car is going to be a very good car. It has set the direction of Cadillac as being against the Germans but not trying to be one. 

 

I am sure this car will do well profit wise. 

 

But the one thing we need to take away here is this is still a compromised Cadillac as it was not done with the new management that has been freed up. So if they can do a car this well under the GM that was still holding back image where the new Cadillac will go now that they are better financed and more liberated to do as they feel. 

 

I see then going more out with better refined styling and even higher quality with their own engines. That is very exciting to me as they will really be more of their own brand and not just a tarted up Chevy like the last Fleetwood was. 

This car and the coming cars will show just how bad the last 40 years really were. 

 

We should see the TT V8 before long and that should really make things even more interesting. 

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Awesome video, amazing the ribbed box'd frame around the wheels. It is an intersting way of building and exciting. I feel for OCNBLU as repair on these auto's will be a nightmare I think. Wonder if that egg crate brace member can be replaced. I under stand the need for crumple zones, but WOW talk about the repair work on the car.

 

So much anymore cars are totaled because of the cost involved. I do not think this will change much. 

 

I had a co worker with a large luxury car that was still derivable after the crash get totaled. The car was tweaked enough it was not worth fixing.  He was ok with that as he is getting a brand new one. 

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Awesome video, amazing the ribbed box'd frame around the wheels. It is an intersting way of building and exciting. I feel for OCNBLU as repair on these auto's will be a nightmare I think. Wonder if that egg crate brace member can be replaced. I under stand the need for crumple zones, but WOW talk about the repair work on the car.

 

So much anymore cars are totaled because of the cost involved. I do not think this will change much. 

 

I had a co worker with a large luxury car that was still derivable after the crash get totaled. The car was tweaked enough it was not worth fixing.  He was ok with that as he is getting a brand new one. 

 

This is true for all types of consumer objects. It has been true for the last 20 years. And with some objects, 30-40 years.

Cheaper to buy new to than to repair...

 

Is that a good thing though?

I aint an eco zealot, but one still has to wonder what in the world are we doing here?

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It seems like they hit a lot of positive marks on ride, handling and agility.  I think it was Automobile's review that said how the interior of the CT6 is a let down because it isn't on par with the big Germans.  But it is a lot cheaper than the big Germans.  It falls in size and price against the Equus and K900, but it handles much better than those cars, and the interior easily seems on par or better than the Koreans in that price class.  So I think they have them beat at the discount full size sedan game.

 

I think though an E-class has technology and interior quality better than a CT6, the 5-series and A6 aren't slouches either.  I think Cadillac is going to try and steal people that want mid-size car performance in a full size car package.  But I am not sure there are so many "sport sedan" buyers that want a full size car.

 

I guess on one hand they are trying to carve out a niche, but I think it could be hard to steal sales off the establishment, they'll probably steal more sales off the XTS or CTS.

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They need that V8, as it stands, the fastest CT6 is slower than the slowest S-class.  But I still don't really think the CT6 competes with the S-class because of the price gap.  But so much for the it weighs less, it will be faster theory.   Better comparison might be the E450 or AMG E43, whatever the mid-level E-class gets called.

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The TT V6 at that weight will take on many of the V8 models and the TT V8 should be almost 100 HP to the better of the V6 TT. 

 

The thing is this is not a performance model or V model. It is a luxury car that also delivers performance and a quality interior and ride. It is about the complete package not just a small part of the segment. 

They should do very well with this and at the price it is is should even make a good profit even if it sells in modest volumes and should do even better as sales increase. Luxury cars are like printing money. The development cost comes back so much faster and profits arrive so much sooner than a value priced model. 

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They need that V8, as it stands, the fastest CT6 is slower than the slowest S-class.  But I still don't really think the CT6 competes with the S-class because of the price gap.  But so much for the it weighs less, it will be faster theory.   Better comparison might be the E450 or AMG E43, whatever the mid-level E-class gets called.

So since you admit that it does not compete with the S Class, then why does it need a V8 now (I say "now" because a V8 is on the way, as you have been told many times here)? 

It seems like they hit a lot of positive marks on ride, handling and agility.  I think it was Automobile's review that said how the interior of the CT6 is a let down because it isn't on par with the big Germans.  But it is a lot cheaper than the big Germans.  It falls in size and price against the Equus and K900, but it handles much better than those cars, and the interior easily seems on par or better than the Koreans in that price class.  So I think they have them beat at the discount full size sedan game.

 

I think though an E-class has technology and interior quality better than a CT6, the 5-series and A6 aren't slouches either.  I think Cadillac is going to try and steal people that want mid-size car performance in a full size car package.  But I am not sure there are so many "sport sedan" buyers that want a full size car.

 

I guess on one hand they are trying to carve out a niche, but I think it could be hard to steal sales off the establishment, they'll probably steal more sales off the XTS or CTS.

The XTS is on the way out and it will no more steal sales from the CTS than the S Class does from the E Class.

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