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1 hour ago, oldshurst442 said:

I guess you dont like George Lucas' special edition Star Wars tweeks then...

And it’s hilarious coming from a guy that would probably have no problem with a Corvette based SUV, so long as it uses dinosaur juice. Out of date thinking is still out of date. 

1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

Apparently, the Mustang name is now only sacred to customers, not the company that has peddled it since 1962-63.

Yeah, those pesky customers. They just keep the lights on for companies like Ford. Damn them. Damn them all. 

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16 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

And it’s hilarious coming from a guy that would probably have no problem with a Corvette based SUV

Derangement

16 minutes ago, surreal1272 said:

Yeah, those pesky customers. They just keep the lights on for companies like Ford. Damn them. Damn them all. 

?  wut... it is the customer who loves Mustang that is up in arms over this heresy

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3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Derangement

?  wut... it is the customer who loves Mustang that is up in arms over this heresy

Strange but in talking to coworkers who have mustangs, they are not upset at all but excited about additional options of Mustang DNA products. Must be the Mountain Boys you hanging with that are upset.

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5 hours ago, dfelt said:

Strange but in talking to coworkers who have mustangs, they are not upset at all but excited about additional options of Mustang DNA products. Must be the Mountain Boys you hanging with that are upset.

Nah, I have this thing called the interwebs.  I can go onto it and READ Ford Motor Company's page on, like, Facebook and stuff.  And there is a multitude of other postesses over onto there too, on other pages.  Not too many positive commentators over there, Bub.  Maybe like 3 in Loonburg, California, but that's it.

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13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Apparently, the Mustang name is now only sacred to customers, not the company that has peddled it since 1962-63.

Products evolve over time...at least they aren't making a 4cyl FWD Mustang...imagine the uproar that would have caused.   

 

11 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Apparently they're looking into making the Mustang a whole sub-brand of Ford with a family of Mustangs.

 Since there have been rumors the next Mustang will be on an Explorer-based platform, that opens up lots of possibilities incl. AWD...  I like the idea of a future Mustang GT coupe or convertible w/ a 5.0 V8, manual, AWD and 4500lbs.  That would be tight.   Or a Mustang 4dr coupe w/ V8... 

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3 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Nah, I have this thing called the interwebs.  I can go onto it and READ Ford Motor Company's page on, like, Facebook and stuff.  And there is a multitude of other postesses over onto there too, on other pages.  Not too many positive commentators over there, Bub.  Maybe like 3 in Loonburg, California, but that's it.

The interwebs?

To get feels about how society feels?

Ha ha ha!  Now THAT is a good one.

The interwebs, or as I like to call them, the internets, is a world wide web full of angry people. And its the perfect cauldron of hate for people to hate on things.

Its in human nature to complain. Humans in the summer complain that its too hot. In the winter they complain its too cold. And you would think that in the Spring or Fall, humans would cease to complain. But nope, they complain that summer cant come fast enough or there is too much rain in the forecast or they have to rake the bloody leaves...  and this medium that connects us all makes it easier to...bitch. 

But, humans are also easily pleased. But, its in human nature NOT to advertise what makes us happy. We just smile and move on. 

Star Wars.

Star Wars is dead according to the internets. From waaaaay back to the Prequels. 

Now, a new voice has risen that Star Wars is....dead again. Granted, we will see come Dec. 20 to see if that prediction is true. But I think its just a vocal minority bitching. 

The C8 Corvette. I went on many sites and youtube videos to see "reactions" by my fellow man.

Although the ones in favour of the C8 does surpass the ones that do not like the C8 for various reasons, the ratio seems to be closer than what I let on a few weeks ago when I posted a thought on the C8.

And the people hatin' on the C8, if we went with that as a popular vote on the status for the C8, it would be like what you saw with the Mustang Mach-E...

But, I wouldnt put to much faith into that...

Internet trolls exist. And they exist for many reasons.  And THAT is why you cannot base your opinion on the internets.

 

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'Trolls on teh internets' have been a truism since olden days..they were there on CompuServe and Usenet newsgroups 30 years ago when I was but a skinny teenager with a Mustang (2 actually) and learning the computing game on computers that seem primitive compared to my phone today..

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13 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Derangement

?  wut... it is the customer who loves Mustang that is up in arms over this heresy

Riiiiight. A nation full of Mustang owners and I’m sure you took a very scientific and accurate poll of said owners to come to this “conclusion”. It surely has nothing to do with your disdain of the powertrain involved. 
 

What the F ever. 

10 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

'Trolls on teh internets' have been a truism since olden days..they were there on CompuServe and Usenet newsgroups 30 years ago when I was but a skinny teenager with a Mustang and learning the computing game on computers that seem primitive compared to my phone today..

Exactly my point. Just because some random folks on a message board express their displeasure doesn’t mean squat in the grand scheme of things. Wonder if he shares that same opinion about Vette owners and their opinions of it going mid-engine? The fact is that it wouldn’t matter if every mustang owner loved the E Mach. He would still cry foul because of the powertrain choice. Well boo F’in hoo to him. 

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3 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

As with anything, the loudest complainers get the most attention.   Reality will show in a couple years with sales results as to whether Ford made a good or a bad decision.... 

That was what I wanted to convey.   Plus, internet trolls troll to get reactions... 

I must learn to condense my thoughts. LOL.

Nah!   I like and enjoy writing up, as many of you like to say, novels for posts!   :D

Its what makes me...me. 

 

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Personally, I think Ford is selling out Mustang name, and does it poorly and cheaply.

Regardless of how bad some previous Mustangs were and what kind of engines the have or had it was always a RWD coupe/convertible pony/sports car.

Putting that name on the crossover, even fast EV one I think is a cheap move.

I think it would be great if they just called it Mach E, that actually would be a cool name by itself.

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It's definitely a marketing move.  Gets more attention with the Mustang name than it would otherwise.   But will it be a successful gamble?  Only time will tell.

7 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

That was what I wanted to convey.   Plus, internet trolls troll to get reactions... 

I must learn to condense my thoughts. LOL.

Nah!   I like and enjoy writing up, as many of you like to say, novels for posts!   :D

 

Yes, you do tend toward the loquacious.  I strive for short and pithy, sometimes veering into sarcasm and absurdity. 

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What @Robert Hall  said about it being a marketing move. Let's face it, selling products, all products, any products,  need marketing to be sold.  Marketing tends to busllshyte people into believing into something that they feel good about to buy said product.  Mustang is a good start to start peddling a performance oriented product from Ford. 

@ykX   You mentioned Mach...and THAT would be good start. Better than Mustang. you said.  

 Mach (not talking about the ratio of speed of an object in relation to the speed of sound), which is a FANTASTIC name in itself, but Mach IS a version of a Mustang to begin with. THAT, at least in my eyes, wouldnt make sense.  

Id be saying things like,: "is this EV a Mustang or is it NOT a Mustang?"  Because Mach to me is...a Mustang. 

So...as you could see, picking a name is highly emotional. And its important for brand recognition. A name NEEDS to bring out emotions in people.  

Let us be thankful that Ford did not choose to call it a Model T or a Model A. Referencing their past in that way. Not that Model T is a bad name, but it does not invoke any passion, even if the Model T was voted as the car of the century.  

Tesla Model S,3,X and Y spells out sexy...   By themselves, S or 3 or X or Y...is cold. Like BMW 3xx or Cadillac CTx...but in the grand scheme of things, Elon invokes emotion with that naming scheme...

Mustang Mach-E.

Its got this car forum talking...and THAT is a good way to start selling this EV in my opinion. 

 

PS:  Definitely time will tell if it was a dumb move to call it Mustang or a genius move! 

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16 minutes ago, Robert Hall said:

It's definitely a marketing move.  Gets more attention with the Mustang name than it would otherwise.   But will it be a successful gamble?  Only time will tell.

Yes, you do tend toward the loquacious.  I strive for short and pithy, sometimes veering into sarcasm and absurdity. 

Im a social butterfly.  Some people like that. Some people dont. 

I tend to be sarcastic in real life, but I have to tone it down because of the job I do. Not a good business strategy. But...being a social butterfly helps with the business, so...that would be my Ying to my Yang. The balance to the force.  

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8 minutes ago, oldshurst442 said:

Im a social butterfly.  Some people like that. Some people dont. 

I tend to be sarcastic in real life, but I have to tone it down because of the job I do. Not a good business strategy. But...being a social butterfly helps with the business, so...that would be my Ying to my Yang. The balance to the force.  

I do use sarcasm IRL with care.  I've had people say they don't get when I'm being sarcasm or facetious because I never change my tone of voice.    In writing I do use <sarcasm> </sarcasm> html tags sometimes, if I know my audience well. 

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On 11/18/2019 at 9:43 AM, Robert Hall said:

Yes, it's definitely a marketing move.  It will be interesting to see if it works or not.  This has flashy styling, kind of Tesla-esque, some hints of Mustang.    

If people can swallow the price, there's no glaring downside to it. Heck, even in the Edge-sized price range this isn't really "out there" in pricing. 

16 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Apparently, the Mustang name is now only sacred to customers, not the company that has peddled it since 1962-63.

They mortgaged the pony during hard times. All things are on the table for a business. 

15 hours ago, surreal1272 said:

Corvette based SUV

Remember when everybody was like, "Corvette should split off and create its own brand and have a Corvette SUV"? 

Because I do. 

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15 hours ago, ocnblu said:

?  wut... it is the customer who loves Mustang that is up in arms over this heresy

Well, you're up in arms and you're not a Mustang customer... so... 

15 hours ago, Drew Dowdell said:

Apparently they're looking into making the Mustang a whole sub-brand of Ford with a family of Mustangs.

Just like we've all discussed GM should do with the Corvette and I still think they could/should. 

13 hours ago, dfelt said:

Has Potential! :P 

It's a little ugly but 500hp+ would fix that! 

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