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Way better looking than the butt ugly i3 car from BMW. that is truly ugly just like the Prius. I take this bolt over the BMW i3 or the prius any day. The Prius' drag coefficient is only 0.24 though. Huge difference. Tesla Model X is also 0.24! Who cares, in daily driving that little tiny bit does not make that big of a difference and the looks of the Bolt are way better than the Prius or Tesla IMHO. Efficiency is noticed daily. Every time you commute somewhere the vehicle's efficiency matters. Bolt looks terrible compared to the Tesla but better than the Prius, but that doesn't really matter as that isn't really the topic and it's opinion based anyway... If the 200 mile range Bolt could claim 220miles, wouldn't that be better? 0.08 isn't a "tiny" amount. If you keep the Bolt within city limits, it won't batter as your speeds will rarely see north of 40mph. Beyond that is where the benefits multiply for an efficient aero package on a vehicle.
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+1!2010 Ford Escape's is 0.29(Hybrid - but it was still quite the box compared to the '13+) The '13+ supposedly is 10% better but I can't find any numbers on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automobile_drag_coefficient 2013+ Fusions are 0.275 Last gen Mazda6 was 0.27 1992 Camry sedan was 0.32 VW CC is 0.284 2011+ Dodge Durango is 0.33 2014+ Subaru Forester is 0.33 Every sedan nowadays is reaching and below a 0.32 drag coefficient.
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Way better looking than the butt ugly i3 car from BMW. that is truly ugly just like the Prius. I take this bolt over the BMW i3 or the prius any day. The Prius' drag coefficient is only 0.24 though. Huge difference. Tesla Model X is also 0.24!
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I think the sub-brand is strictly for brand identity and accounting. That way things can and will get written off and allocated differently. I don't see the issue with them doing this but unless something is coming out later this year I don't understand the "announcement".
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I also don't know how to vote as I'm a mixed back between compliment and rip-off.
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I think it is a slippery slope to try and enforce design cues as their own rights. What constitutes as ripping off a design cue if it isn't the exact slope/pitch/angles/lengths of the "original"? I see it as a rip off if it is on a vehicle made with plastics everywhere and just poorly executed and a compliment if it is done with class and isn't just a complete mimmick of the original. Like I think the Lincoln in general is more of a compliment to an elegant and simple design. I think the Celica's rear trunk lid screams plastic and therefore cheap.. but taking the relative style wasn't done poorly. Hummer vs Dongfeng.. As long as the Dongfeng is as badass off-road as the Hummer then I see it as a compliment. Land Wind is just a rip off, Geely Ge is also just a blatant rip off. The Kia seems more complimentary as they really only seemed to use the headlights. They did their own thing with the grill, much taller and rounder. Porsche and Nissan... well in that picture it seems more complimentary as well because the Nissan actually looks like the nicer car lol.
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Because it should be more efficient than it is.
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Yeah they screwed up the aero drag on this pretty good.
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I thought you were just trying to hammer home how absurd that comment was. Nope, My work computer no longer likes this site for whatever reason. I can't use the full editor for typing and I can't add links or pictures anymore. Well, I have to be in the "BBCode Mode" to make a link and even quote for whatever reason.
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Wow, Sorry for the near triple post.. internet must have been acting up because it never said it posted.. oh well now!
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It largely depends on curb weight and weight distribution. The GT350 weighs in around 3700 pounds. If the ZL1 weighs in at 3900-ish I'd say it's a legit comparo. Yes. Weight and weight distribution makes them competitors. Duh...
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It largely depends on curb weight and weight distribution. The GT350 weighs in around 3700 pounds. If the ZL1 weighs in at 3900-ish I'd say it's a legit comparo. Yes. Weight and weight distribution makes them competitors. Duh...
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Huh? The 1LE will start just above a loaded Shelby and annihilate it? I think you mean ZL1. And in that case, I'm more interested in seeing how that car and the Hellcat compare...a more direct competitor. But if you ask Bong he said the weights are similar or some crap so they have to compete.. *rolls eyes*
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45k for a 1LE. Doesn't sound terrible. I mean in my opinion, anything over 40k is an expensive car because 2 doors and limited capability doing anything other than $h!'n and get'n but should be a great performer for the money! And, thank you! Anything over $25K is expensive anymore. If you were born earlier it would be $20 and even $10K depending on the era.Very true. I honestly couldn't imagine spending north of 30k on a vehicle. Most of that is just the insane depreciation they take.
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45k for a 1LE. Doesn't sound terrible. I mean in my opinion, anything over 40k is an expensive car because 2 doors and limited capability doing anything other than $h!'n and get'n but should be a great performer for the money! And, thank you!
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It was a statement to the both of you. If you chose to, yet again, take it personally, that's your issue. But, yet again, think about everybody else who wants to discuss the cars or automotive world not the validity of one's opinion and be courteous to everybody else. You didn't just ask a question, you hounded him for it like you do everybody. Just agree to disagree that you both feel different about something.. because you two do on most topics anyway. Is there any rumors of what the 1LE package will cost yet?
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I typed in 1Le camaro in best drivers car Ha. Apparently I just suck..
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What'd you actually type in? I tried a few different variations of "2016 Motor Trend Best Driver's car/pictures/SnapChat"
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Give it a freakin' break already.
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So for whatever reason I can't link pictures anymore here. Internet Explorer opens the box to type in the URL but it won't let me click "okay" and Chrome doesn't bring up a full editing text box. Buuuuuut, if somebody wants to take this link and make it a picture that'd be awesome. http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d5/ccap41/9BD137AE-4629-4BA5-A103-2343299598C9_zps1uz2dsmr.jpg
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Oh yeah the new BMW M4 that was like matte grey with orange.. Edit: I did a little googling and I found this picture from their SnapChat although I couldn't find anything else. As far as I can remember this is the cars involved but I promise you there was a navy blue with a black hood Camaro and a baby blue Cayman as well that are missing.
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The 1LE is in BDC? I don't recall any " first drive " or test yet. And I also don't see that package available on Chevy's site either. How could one include a car that's not for sale yet? Last I heard, the 1LE packages are available in late 2016, on 2017 SS and LT V-6 Camaro. It was on their SnapChat while they were testing a couple weeks ago. Almost positive it was the 1LE not the ZL1. I'll try and Google some $h! to figure it out. Thanks for the reply. Even if it's not the 1LE, but is in fact the ZL1, that car is also not available. Either way, how can car(s) not out yet, be included in any sort of comparison? BDC has some odd eligibility requirements. More more what Olds says rings true - M/T's credibility is questionable. How can you question their credibility when there has been zero official information regarding the 2016 best drivers car participants? There is no grand conspiracy here, only huge tinfoil sales. It's silly and half baked to presume otherwise at this point.Every car was on SnapChat. I just don't remember them all but I believe R8, GT350R, 1LE, some AMG GT, GTR, I think the new 718 Cayman, and I guarantee one or two I'm missing. I think maybe one of the new McLarens as well.. It was about a month ago when they were testing them all.
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The 1LE is in BDC? I don't recall any " first drive " or test yet. And I also don't see that package available on Chevy's site either. How could one include a car that's not for sale yet? Last I heard, the 1LE packages are available in late 2016, on 2017 SS and LT V-6 Camaro. It was on their SnapChat while they were testing a couple weeks ago. Almost positive it was the 1LE not the ZL1. I'll try and Google some $h! to figure it out.
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