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    Sales Figure Ticker: September 2018

      As the leaves begin to change color, how did automakers fare in September?

    Quarterly:
    General Motors Co.Down 11.1% (694,638 Vehicles Sold This Quarter, 2,168,808 Vehicles Sold This Year)

    Monthly:
    FCA US LLCUp 15% (199,819 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,679,983 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Volvo Cars of North America, LLCUp 10.3% (8,715 Vehicles Sold This Month, 69,981 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Subaru of America, Inc.Up 3.5% (57,044 Vehicles Sold This Month, 503,418 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Hyundai Motor AmericaUp 1% (57,359 Vehicles Sold This Month, 501,701 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    BMW of North AmericaUp 0.2% (29,369 Vehicles Sold This Month, 259,258 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Kia Motors AmericaDown 1.8% (51,503 Vehicles Sold This Month, 452,042 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Volkswagen of AmericaDown 4.8% (30,555 Vehicles Sold This Month, 266,228 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mercedes-Benz USADown 5% (30,715 Vehicles Sold This Month, 254,366 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    American Honda Motor Co.Down 7% (132,668 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,206,997 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Jaguar Land Rover North America - Down 7.1% (9,006 Vehicles Sold This Month, 86,080 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Porsche Cars North America, Inc.Down 7.1% (5,102 Vehicles Sold This Month, 42,626 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mitsubishi Motors North AmericaDown 8.6% (7,705 Vehicles Sold This Month, 93,398 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Toyota Motor North AmericaDown 10.4% (203,098 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,824,235 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Ford Motor CompanyDown 11.2% (197,404 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,887,625 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Nissan GroupDown 12.2% (122,819 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,124,682 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mazda North American OperationsDown 17.4% (21,257 Vehicles Sold This Month, 235,122 Vehicles Sold This Year)

    Audi of America - 

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    Buick - Down 7.3% (45,911 Vehicles Sold This Quarter, 155,606 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Cadillac - Down 10.7% (37,291 Vehicles Sold This Quarter, 113,240 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Chevrolet - Down 11.4% (485,019 Vehicles Sold This Quarter, 1,504,038 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    GMC - Down 11.3% (126,417 Vehicles Sold This Quarter, 395,924 Vehicles Sold This Year)

    Brands (Monthly):
    Acura - Up 4.4% (13,511 Vehicles Sold This Month, 114,483 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Alfa Romeo - Up 29% (1,639 Vehicles Sold This Month, 18,160 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Audi - 
    BMW - Up 1.3% (25,908 Vehicles Sold This Month, 225,065 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Chrysler - Down 7% (14,683 Vehicles Sold This Month, 127,156 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Dodge - Up 41% (42,101 Vehicles Sold This Month, 359,728 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Fiat - Down 46% (1,185 Vehicles Sold This Month, 12,084 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Ford - Down 11.3% (189,236 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,812,345 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Genesis - Down 75.8% (419 Vehicles Sold This Month, 8,909 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Honda - Down 8.2% (119,157 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,092,514 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Hyundai - Up 3% (56,940 Vehicles Sold This Month, 492,792 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Infiniti - Down 1.6% (12,536 Vehicles Sold This Month, 105,249 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Jaguar - Down 38.1% (2,040 Vehicles Sold This Month, 20,947 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Jeep - Up 14% (83,764 Vehicles Sold This Month, 746,194 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Kia - Down 1.8% (51,503 Vehicles Sold This Month, 452,042 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Land Rover - Up 8.7% (6,966 Vehicles Sold This Month, 746,194 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Lexus - Down 6.1% (24,597 Vehicles Sold This Month, 213,622 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Lincoln - Down 7.2% (8,168 Vehicles Sold This Month, 75,280 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mazda - Down 17.4% (21,257 Vehicles Sold This Month, 235,122 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mercedes-Benz - Down 9.8% (26,169 Vehicles Sold This Month, 225,384 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mercedes-Benz Vans - Up 44% (4,448 Vehicles Sold This Month, 28,023 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    MINI - Down 7.4% (3,461 Vehicles Sold This Month, 34,193 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Mitsubishi - Down 8.6% (7,705 Vehicles Sold This Month, 93,398 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Nissan - Down 13.3% (110,283 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,019,433 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Porsche - Down 7.1% (5,102 Vehicles Sold This Month, 42,626 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Ram Trucks - Up 9% (56,447 Vehicles Sold This Month, 416,661 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Smart - Down 59.3% (98 Vehicles Sold This Month, 959 Vehicles Sold This Year)
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    Toyota - Down 10.9% (178,501 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,610,613 Vehicles Sold This Year)
    Volkswagen - Down 4.8% (30,555 Vehicles Sold This Month, 266,228 Vehicles Sold This Year)
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    10 minutes ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    A tough month for car sales.  This does not bode well for the economy in general.

    I truly think we have hit a peak and a cooling period is beginning for the North American Market.

    I also think many buyers are holding off till the OEMs have their EVs on the lots to kick the tires and consider if they want to go that way or not.

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    56 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    I truly think we have hit a peak and a cooling period is beginning for the North American Market.

    I also think many buyers are holding off till the OEMs have their EVs on the lots to kick the tires and consider if they want to go that way or not.

    The market is changing in a lot of ways.  Fuel prices may well go up, which will change the dynamic once again. I like that GM held on to its passenger car production in North America. I think that may bode well for them.

    Mazda is also way down. One wonders how long they will hang on as an independent-shades of Studebaker and Packard here.

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    I feel sad for Ford getting rid of their passenger cars.  If the trend is towards higher fuel prices, they better pull a rabbit out of the hat to make trucks and SUV's super fuel efficient.  Electric is still a long way off from being mainstream.

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    3 hours ago, 25ThTA said:

    I feel sad for Ford getting rid of their passenger cars.  If the trend is towards higher fuel prices, they better pull a rabbit out of the hat to make trucks and SUV's super fuel efficient.  Electric is still a long way off from being mainstream.

    I don't.  Shutter the Ford plants...all of them. Permanantly.

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    GM got beat up on the sales front across the board.  Not many sales increases anywhere either.

    Horse, how many Fords have betrayed you over the years for yo to feel that way?

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    Still waiting for the other shoe to drop...so far, the economy is holding steady. Even though jobs are really coming on to their own, thr big stuff like cars and houses are on the way down.....

    The biggest issue now is going to be gas prices, as I see them going up.....

     

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    15 hours ago, A Horse With No Name said:

    Mazda is also way down. One wonders how long they will hang on as an independent-shades of Studebaker and Packard here.

    perhaps, but they have a turbo cx-5 coming, and the skyactiv-x engine around the corner. rumor has it the 3 and the cx-3 will get the 2.0 x. it will be interesting what the market will do with these products...when they hit lots.

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    35 minutes ago, loki said:

    perhaps, but they have a turbo cx-5 coming, and the skyactiv-x engine around the corner. rumor has it the 3 and the cx-3 will get the 2.0 x. it will be interesting what the market will do with these products...when they hit lots.

    Overall Mazda is doing ok:

    https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/global-sales-mazda-posts-third-straight-record-year/

    "Global sales: Mazda posts third-straight record year. Mazda Motor Corporation established a new best mark for global vehicle turnover during the 2017-18 fiscal year that ended on 31 March. With 1,631,000 units sold, up 5% or 72,000 from the previous year, the Japanese carmaker set its third-consecutive record while also recording its fifth year of uninterrupted growth"

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    4 hours ago, ocnblu said:

    We are reading the last chapter of Genesis already, and they only just begun.

    Even sarcasm fails me at this point...and that is saying something.

    11 hours ago, riviera74 said:

    GM got beat up on the sales front across the board.  Not many sales increases anywhere either.

    Horse, how many Fords have betrayed you over the years for yo to feel that way?

    Which makes me think it is the economy slowing down.  GM does not lack for products.

    Ford is a long strange love hate relationship with me. I will be more rational and rant less.

    1 hour ago, ykX said:

    Overall Mazda is doing ok:

    https://www.automotiveworld.com/news-releases/global-sales-mazda-posts-third-straight-record-year/

    "Global sales: Mazda posts third-straight record year. Mazda Motor Corporation established a new best mark for global vehicle turnover during the 2017-18 fiscal year that ended on 31 March. With 1,631,000 units sold, up 5% or 72,000 from the previous year, the Japanese carmaker set its third-consecutive record while also recording its fifth year of uninterrupted growth"

    Good to know, they are quite the innovative car company.

    8 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Genesis down 76% ????
     

    And we are surprised...why?

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    1 hour ago, frogger said:

    Genesis has 3 sedans, no CUV's... They really failed to read where the market was going.

     

     

    The market is also really saturated with fantastic product at the moment. Not product that excites me as an enthusiast....but fantastic product. 

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    3 minutes ago, smk4565 said:

    Genesis sold 1 G70.  Good job on that.

    G70 just started to get to dealers

    At the moment I can't even find any for sale around me

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    Edsel sold 44,891 units in model year '59.

    For MY 60, given pre-introduction production, let's give Edsel 2 months of production (the new models were intro'd 10/15, discontinuation was announced 11/19).
    They sold 2,486 cars, which would extrapolate out to about 14K for a full year.

    44,891 to 14,xxx is a 70% decline.

    Historically & business case-wise, it's hard to imagine a 2020 Genesis dealership being open. I say that, under the glaring inconsistency that is 14-year old money-burning Tesla.

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    many other brands were down so I don't think GM looks real bad here or anything. 

    I think this is natural market cooling, and in part because i think we are seeing resistance to the more and more absurd MSRP's.  But the market wanted expensive CUV's and trucks and maybe its time for the automakers to back of the heavy optioned and expensive vehicles and try to serve the lower ends of the market a little better now.  And maybe some folks will move back to cheaper mid size sedans, or not.

    It's probably ok for housing and car sales to cool off a bit.  The used market may heat up then, which is ok too.

     

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    The newly redesigned Chevy Traverse large CUV saw sales rise 3.1% to 32,908 units, while its Buick Enclave platform-mate enjoyed a 7.1% sales spike to 12,807. However, sales of the 3-row GMC Acadia, a slightly smaller take on the Traverse and Enclave, were nearly halved to 13,485.

    Maybe its time to wake up that why in the hell did they downsize the Acadia topic again

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    18 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Edsel sold 44,891 units in model year '59.

    For MY 60, given pre-introduction production, let's give Edsel 2 months of production (the new models were intro'd 10/15, discontinuation was announced 11/19).
    They sold 2,486 cars, which would extrapolate out to about 14K for a full year.

    44,891 to 14,xxx is a 70% decline.

    Historically & business case-wise, it's hard to imagine a 2020 Genesis dealership being open. I say that, under the glaring inconsistency that is 14-year old money-burning Tesla.

    You have to wonder, with Ford being highly profitable and selling for relatively low prices per share, and Tesla burning cash left right and sideways....and being valued in the stratosphere. Something is really irrational about those stock market prices. 

    18 hours ago, balthazar said:

    Edsel sold 44,891 units in model year '59.

    For MY 60, given pre-introduction production, let's give Edsel 2 months of production (the new models were intro'd 10/15, discontinuation was announced 11/19).
    They sold 2,486 cars, which would extrapolate out to about 14K for a full year.

    44,891 to 14,xxx is a 70% decline.

    Historically & business case-wise, it's hard to imagine a 2020 Genesis dealership being open. I say that, under the glaring inconsistency that is 14-year old money-burning Tesla.

    I always wanted a 60 Edsel convertible, which is a fairly uncommon car. 

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    No Edsel equivalents these days.  That marque would be run out of the market in three years, just like Edsel.

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    13 hours ago, riviera74 said:

    No Edsel equivalents these days.  That marque would be run out of the market in three years, just like Edsel.

    Maybe a Chinese company is the next Edsel.

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    On 10/3/2018 at 2:55 PM, smk4565 said:

    Genesis sold 1 G70.  Good job on that.

    One born every minute...

    3 minutes ago, dfelt said:

    Maybe a Chinese company is the next Edsel.

    No, they will be too well financed and the Chinese actually govern themselves like adults, unlike what we see in Washington from both parties. Once the Chinese get their foot in the door they will be here to stay permanently.

    Managed to convince the rental company to give me a Pacifica for this weekends debate trip. Chrysler did that one right.  I wish that Chrysler had stayed an American company and kept bringing out innovative product. They came so damned close. And yet they are so far....

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    ^^^^ its pretty amazing how decent the new Pacifica is, that won me over for a van and it drives better than a lot of CUV's and sedans, its why there's one in my garage right now.

    the guts of the Pacifica would be alright for a large sedan and crossover as well.  LHS anyone?

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      18,752

      33,839

      -44.6

      Expedition

      24,267

      14,140

      71.6

      86,422

      54,661

      58.1

      Ford SUVs

      180,957

      196,391

      -7.9

      742,578

      797,238

      -6.9

      F-Series

      233,952

      230,312

      1.6

      896,526

      909,330

      -1.4

      Ranger

      33,059

      0

      N/A

      89,571

      0

      N/A

      E-Series

      12,837

      11,387

      12.7

      45,063

      47,936

      -6.0

      Transit

      36,885

      31,331

      17.7

      153,868

      137,794

      11.7

      Transit Connect

      10,208

      8,705

      17.3

      41,598

      31,923

      30.3

      Heavy trucks

      3,134

      3,124

      0.3

      16,510

      12,096

      36.5

      Ford Trucks

      330,075

      284,859

      15.9

      1,243,136

      1,139,079

      9.1

      Ford Brand

      568,507

      581,386

      -2.2

      2,310,494

      2,393,731

      -3.5

      LINCOLN BRAND

      MKZ

       

       

      4,080

       

       

      4,931

       

       

      -17.3

       

       

      17,725

       

       

      19,852

       

       

      -10.7

      Continental

      1,845

      2,424

      -23.9

      6,586

      8,758

      -24.8

      Lincoln Cars

      5,925

      7,355

      -19.4

      24,311

      28,610

      -15.0

      Corsair/MKC

      7,549

      6,971

      8.3

      25,815

      26,241

      -1.6

      Nautilus/MKX

      7,727

      8,687

      -11.1

      31,711

      28,573

      11.0

      MKT

      275

      540

      -49.1

      3,388

      2,324

      45.8

      Aviator

      6,424

      0

      N/A

      8,323

      0

      N/A

      Navigator

      5,455

      4,754

      14.7

      18,656

      17,839

      4.6

      Lincoln SUVs

      27,430

      20,952

      30.9

      87,893

      74,977

      17.2

      Lincoln Brand

      33,355

      28,307

      17.8

      112,204

      103,587

      8.3

    • By Drew Dowdell
      MONTH OF DECEMBER YEAR-TO-DATE Model 2019 2018 2019 2018 Rio 2,144 1,608 24,961  22,975  Forte 7,635  7,709  95,609 101,890  Optima 7,141 7,809  96,623 101,603 Cadenza 237 198 1,630  4,507 Stinger 1,034 1,289 13,861  16,806 K900 30 55 390  354  Soul 6,932 10,128 98,033  104,709 Niro 2,284  2,006  24,467  28,232  Sportage 8,426 6,998 89,278 82,823  Sorento 7,319 8,502 95,951 107,846 Telluride 6,496 N/A 58,604  N/A Sedona 1,551 1,126 15,931 17,928 Total 51,229 47,428 615,338 589,673
    • By Drew Dowdell
      Volkswagen of America December 2019 Sales
        Dec. 19
      Dec. 18
      Yr/Yr% 
      change
      Dec. 19 YTD
      Dec. 18 YTD
      Yr/Yr% 
      change
       Golf
      314 
      281 
      12% 
      5,644 
      6,642 
      -15%   GTI
      765 
      1,045 
      -27% 
      11,672 
      16,684  -30%   Golf R
      394 
      88 
      348% 
      4,223 
      3,468  22%   e-Golf
      264 
      222 
      19% 
      4,863 
      1,354  259%   Golf SportWagen
      927 
      789 
      17% 
      10,991 
      14,123  -22%   Total Golf Family
      2,664 
      2,425 
      10% 
      37,393 
      42,271  -12%   Jetta Sedan
      8,164 
      10,261 
      -20% 
      100,453 
      90,734  11%   Jetta SportWagen      
       (now Golf  SportWagen)


               N/A 
      -  71 
      N/A 
       Total Jetta
      8,164 
      10,261 
      -20% 
      100,453 
      90,805  11%   Beetle Coupe
      324 
      455 
      -29% 
      7,704 
      8,636  -11%   Beetle  Convertible
      388 
      462 
      -16% 
      9,511 
      5,775  65% 
       Total Beetle
      712 
      917 
      -22% 
      17,215 
      14,411  19%   Passat
      714 
      3,116 
      -77% 
      14,123  41,401  -66%   CC

      11 
      -82% 
      58 
      455 
      -87%   Arteon
      283  -  N/A  2,449  -  N/A   Tiguan Limited

      189 
      -99% 
      391 
      13,546  -97%   Tiguan
      7,930 
      8,353 
      -5.1% 
      109,572 
      89,476  22%   Total Tiguan
      7,931 
      8,542 
      -7.2% 
      109,963 
       103,022 
      6.7% 
       Touareg

      58 
      -88% 
      160 
      2,022 
      -92%   Atlas
      7,400 
      6,717 
      10% 
      81,508 
      59,677 
      37%   Total Car
      12,539 
      16,730 
      -25% 
      171,691 
      189,343 
      -9.3% 
       Total SUV
      15,338 
      15,317 
      0.1% 
      191,631 
      164,721 
      16% 
       TOTAL 
      27,877 
      32,047  
      -13%  
      363,322  
      354,064  
      2.6%  
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    • Stockholders love Tesla because it's been on a general uptrend, certainly via the stock price, and only recently, flirting with profitability. Other than this week's NHTSA investigation, there's not been much scandal. Daimler is on a downward trend, and with increasing scandals. It's also a decade behind in the EV movement. Big difference.
    • If it drops to $3 billion that is still more than Tesla makes and stockholders love Tesla.  What matters is how much is going into EV's and autonomous  driving tech, especially for Daimler who makes so many semi-trucks, self driving is going to be huge for long haul trucks.
    • I quoted the wrong section... This is the part I wanted to quote you on... And no...Motor Trend did not cop out on anything...   EVs are REALLY REALLY smooth. THAT is the point... THAT is what YOU misinterpreted... and un-ironically...they compare an EV ride to an ICE powered isolation luxury machine that costs more to buy than real estate in certain cases...  
    • Its only ugly because you dont like EVs... THAT would be a cop out on YOUR part... See what you did there?  See what I did there? This is what I got from the article: EVs are not cost effective (for most people) just yet.  (That would be a  No shyte Sherlock moment actually...no need for a MT article to point that out) But...I also got "life is full of  small inconveniences" and "capitalism lets us profit from it"  regarding charge stations.  And that one just compliments another video I saw yesterday.  I also got that EV infrastructure and battery range has improved to the point that range anxiety (at least in California...and in Quebec)  is literally a NON-ISSUE...   What I got is...at least in California...and in Quebec... that an EV of at the very least a KONA EV, one could travel decent distances and not worry about being stranded and eaten by wolves because of desolation...as haterz like to tell their tales against EVs.   Your blindness and hatred to EVs and you misread...and misinterpret.    You could read into the 1.6 liter is rough and tough because transmission...but you omit that even comparing a 2.0 KONA..."The EV is almost continuously better to drive than the gas," Reynolds said. "Its silky acceleration and right-foot response are akin to a Rolls-Royce." And to boot, the EV is SLOWER than the 1.6 gas 0-60...    You could hate on EVs, man....but at least when reading an article...please dont misinterpret  the information given.  Or at least try not to. Regardless of your feelings towards things you hate on.         
    • LOL the false tears.  Cry! If you really read the article... what Motor Trend REALLY doesn't like about the turbo Kona is the TRANSMISSION, which is a dual clutch.  NOBODY likes the type of DCT that is in the Kona.  This is a cop-out on MT's part.  Buy the 2.0 with conventional automatic and save even MORE over the exorbitant MSRP of the uglier EV version.
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