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Rumors On Blue Devil, Sixteen, z06, H4 & More

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Thanks to C&G reader Dave for sending this information along. Rumors on the mentioned vehicles.

Our insiders should have some fun with this.

Orignial Thread

GM is back, and with avengence.

As far as all the things I've read lately, and from my uncle, who is close friends with some of the largest figures in the Auto industry, I have some HUGE surprises...

Corvette Z06 SuperSport (aka-Blue Devil)
Most of us know about this high performance machine, and we all know that at least 600 hp is expected. Well, good news for the all of you, expect at least 650. For about 95,000 American, you get 150 more ponies, and a high performance car capable of putting the Enzo to shame. Expect it by Fall 2006.

Chevrolet Camaro Z28 and SS
We all know this too. But I betcha you didn't know that the base version will be the only car for under 22,000 that comes with a V8. No joke. Oh, and expect this car to be here by Summer 2008, and with the SS version pumping at least 480hp into that engine bay.

Cadillac Cien
GM's first mid-engined production car is gonna make a gigantic splash on the aut industry. Expect Bentley Continental GT pricing and Saleen S7 performance when this all Carbon Fibre Supercar pops into showrooms in Summer 2007. Oh, and don't expect a Corvette Engine. It's all Northstar V8.

Cadillac Sixteen Sedan
Not quite as big as the Concept, but big enough to scare the living crap out of a H1 owner, this Caddy will have a V16 engine, a collaberation of two Northstar V8's, and will produce a more healthy 800hp. Expect it to be here by 2009, and for the workers at the Maybach factories to be fuming with new ideas.

Buick Roadmaster
Well... just what we need, another GM coupe and Convertible. This one will have rear wheel drive though, and a possible 420hp when it pops up stateside in 2007. Built on the same Corvette chassis and suspension setup as the XLR, this car will have a huge pricetag, and few will be made.

Hummer H4
Great, another one. Well, not exactly. This time, it won't be so much off road king as cheap off road prince built off of the Equinox chassis. And it'll be more suited to a Younger Crowd, with an obviously lesser amount of money. Expect a concept of this $25,000 pony to be shown at the 2007 Detroit Auto Show.

Now, everything I just told you may sound like a lie, coming from me. It's not. Although I will be honest and tell you that GM isn't completely sure whether they'll produce some of these, especially the Roadmaster. But I can tell you that the Corvette SS, the H4, and the Camaro are coming.

And look out, because they're coming with they're weapons ready.

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The Cien is starting production in two years? And with a Northstar V8? Don't think so.
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Bentley Continental GT pricing for a V8, if it is a V12 and pumps 500 hp at least it would deserve about 75 - 80% of the Bently's price..
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The Cien is starting production in two years? And with a Northstar V8? Don't think so.

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Oddly enough, the Cien had a part in the recent "The Island" movie... Like the CTS and EXT in Matrix Reloaded.
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I've been let down to many times by rumours from 'knowledgable' people. I'll be excited when they are unveiled.
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Caddy Sixteen with 2 V8's producing 800hp? By 2009? I'm not believing this one. Nor am I believing the Camaro base with a V8 engine for under 22,000. C'mon, if GM could do that, don't you think we'd have a little better pricing/specs for the cars out now?
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How about any news about cars for Pontiac. The base V8 for the Camaro will probably be the 5.3L. I wounder how much the SS model will be.
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Corvette based ((ROADMASTER))?!?!---Roadmaster should be a LARGE HIGH POWERED luxury touring sedan!------480HP CAMARO SS?!?!------Most likely the NAIAS consept!---Would be GREAT for KILLING the GT500 if built!!
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When I read this stuff it makes me not want to spend any money for the next 3 years so I can snatch one of these hi-po monsters up. I'm getting horsepower giddy!
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If half of these rumors are correct I'd be quite ecstatic. Can GM build a V8 Camaro for $22,000 when Ford can't do it now with the Mustang, doesn't seem possible. Maybe the 2006 Detroit Auto Show will be a memorable one after all.
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Roadmaster as a coupe and convertible? That doesn't make much sense. On the other hand, as a Riviera it would.
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Damn is all I'm going to say. Damn. :o
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I could see a camaro being as little as 22k (for a real stripper car though), i betcha that GM's cost on either a 5.3 or 4.8l smallblock is a lot cheaper than Ford's 3v OHC v8s for starters. GM also has better productivity than ford (don't know about the auto alliance plant where the stang is built in particular though), especially in its newer plants that could keep costs down. And don't forget the total value promise, or whatever they call their lower MSRP strategy. If they wanted to keep camaro production low, they could concievably build zeta chasis's in australia and send them over for final assembly in the USA.
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i believe the vette and the h4..the rest i must question but then again...the ss is suppose to go against the gt500 cobra if it does and gm h olds true to the past...all the camaros had more horses than the must counterparts always so 30 more horses than the gt500 sounds about right. the hardest one to believe are the caddy ones. we haven't even heard rumours about the cien but we know the sixteen is coming we saw the clay models for it...i heard they weren't going ot do a v16 though and just do a v12 for it. but I'm sure NAIS will be an awesome show.
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Corvette Z06 SS: We've been talking about it for a while, and with yesterday's news about the LS3 and LS9, I think it's definetly possible. Camaro: I think it's possible to put a V8 in the Camaro at under $22k. I also think it'd be a good idea to do because then they can advertise base V8 power, something the Mustang doesn't have. They do it in the Impala for $27k, and it has a lot more standard stuff than a base Camaro would. Cien: not buying this, although I heard that GM was until recently still considering the Cien. Sixteen: I suppose it's possible they will eventually build it, but not by the time he says. I'm guess he's getting it mixed up with the ULS because that's about the time it's supposed to come out. Also notice he said it wasn't quite as big as the concept, and the ULS would be a slightly smaller Sixteen. Roadmaster: maybe they decided that they should do a two-seat Velite as the Buick flagship, but I don't see the need. H4: It certainly better be off-road capable. Hummer shouldn't put something out that isn't "Trail-Rated" they don't need to follow Jeep. The GMC Theta should be capable of attracting similar buyers if done correctly.
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Most of that is hardly believable... And appearantly whoever wrote is an idiot as he said the Cien would be GM's first mid-engined vehicle... Heh... Riiiight. ;) I love my Fiero... But, there's nothing about Pontiac... So, I can't be too excited.
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sniff... sniff... I smell bullshit.

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You just couldn't resist could you?
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As much as I would love to believe ALL of this, some does work. The Camaro and Corvette, I definitely see making it to production. But come on, Buick Roadmaster? One, the name says really old people. Two, do we really need another 2 seat luxo cruiser? I thought cadillac had that sewed up. Now if it was a lengthened 'Vette chassis, so it could seat four, then I would believe it.
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... the Cien would be GM's first mid-engined vehicle...

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And don't forget the Corvair!
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That's why they're rumors ;) Damn we need the AH-HA wink around

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Josh I keep forgeting to tell you about Bill Durant.

He was fired from GM twice.

Ended up working at a bowling alley.

And died broke.

Might I suggest Alfred P. Sloan II

http://www.classiccar.com/articles/william_durant.asp

:P
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I'm not even an insider and I sense that everything but the blue devil thing is BS. A Roadmaster on a vette platform? uh... right.
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