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First Look: 2012 Buick (Skylark/Skyhawk?)

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Thank you very much for finding and posting this. But I don't even see a sweepspear, so what are the clues that this is a Buick?

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Greenhouse looks a lot like the Cruise....

Is that "waterfall grill" a fake one? It looks like it's drawn on the covering.

Will the Delta II Buick have Buick cues like a sweepspear or portholes? Or will it have Opel cues?

Wait a minute --- I thought it was supposed to in some way(s) resemble the Buick Riviera Concept?

This vehicle shown couldn't be hiding a Pontiac badge on the grill, could it?

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It might be a Buick... it has rear parking sensors which is never (at least not that I can think of) found in compacts unless they're premium/luxury.

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Is anyone mssing a set of altezzas for a 92-95 Civic, because I think I've found them?

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If it is, in fact, a Buick, I think it would be a mistake to call it "Skylark" or "Skyhawk." This is a step forward for Buick, not backward.

P.S. - Maybe it was rumored that the Buick Alpha would be styled along the lines of the Riviera Concept, not the Delta II. But I can't edit my earlier post for some reason.

EDIT: According to someone at gmi, "There will be a Cruze-based (rebadged Cruze basically) Excelle in China ONLY as a stop-gap product until an all-new, unique Delta II based sedan arrives in 2012 as a 2013 model. The all-new D2 car will be sold in the US and China."

If that's the case, this looks like a quick, Cruze-based rebadge for China as the "stop-gap."

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Body looks the same as the Cruze. A Delta II Buick is a good idea if it doesn't look like the Cruze. If it is a badge job with a new grille and headlights, it will fail. And the interior should be 2010 LaCrosse at a minimum.

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The arch of the roofline looks similar to the Cruze, but everything else looks quite a bit different upon careful inspection (from what little is actually revealed). The side window arrangement is unique. The flow of the A-pillar into the hood looks smoother on this car in comparison to the more angular treatment on the Cruze. Overall, I think there will be enough differentiation between the two cars for them to be viewed as 2 unique models by the general public (which would be a nice change of pace for GM compact cars in North America compared to the blatant rebadged clones that the company has produced in the past). I think this car is actually the next gen Opel Astra sedan, which will probably be some sort of compact Buick sedan in North America and China (and maybe a Chevrolet Vectra in Brazil?).

I know GM has disappointed many people (myself included) with their blatant rebadge clones in the past, but I'm trying to be hopeful that they have learned from their past mistakes and properly differentiated this car. I'm not going to discount it until I see the total package.

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Just to nitpick a minor point: I love the way Motor Authority arranged the headline so that it emphasizes the fact that the Buick vehicle is related to the Cruze. I don't recall many headlines such as "Venza-based 2010 Lexus RX" or "Accord-based Acura TL", etc. I realize that many of the websites will state that the vehicles share platforms somewhere further down in the article, but I don't recall that fact being announced in bold letters in the headline of the article.

Why couldn't the article headline simply been: "Spy Shots: Future Compact Buick Sedan" or "Spy Shots: Delta-based Buick Compact Sedan". The fact that the Delta platform is shared with the Chevrolet Cruze could have been stated further down in the article.

I realize this is a very minor issue, but it just irked me when I saw the headline written that way. It just seemed to me like Motor Authority was already attempting to brand this vehicle as a rebadged Cruze clone without seeing the entire package.

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I realize this is a very minor issue, but it just irked me when I saw the headline written that way. It just seemed to me like Motor Authority was already attempting to brand this vehicle as a rebadged Cruze clone without seeing the entire package.

It's not a minor issue. It's just another example of the media bias that it out there.

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There is a point to this, but while both the Venza and RX are related, they're two different forms of ugly. :P

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The arch of the roofline looks similar to the Cruze, but everything else looks quite a bit different upon careful inspection (from what little is actually revealed). The side window arrangement is unique. The flow of the A-pillar into the hood looks smoother on this car in comparison to the more angular treatment on the Cruze. Overall, I think there will be enough differentiation between the two cars for them to be viewed as 2 unique models by the general public (which would be a nice change of pace for GM compact cars in North America compared to the blatant rebadged clones that the company has produced in the past). I think this car is actually the next gen Opel Astra sedan, which will probably be some sort of compact Buick sedan in North America and China (and maybe a Chevrolet Vectra in Brazil?).

Agreed on the differentiation.

I was wondering about this being the Astra Sedan or something else... and your Brazil comment is interesting too: would that be the Vectra, or would the Insignia go there as a new Vectra? I think I saw a Chevy-badged Insignia with the Vectra name in a pic of some car show in Brazil, but I don't have a link to that on my Favorites anymore...

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It might be a Buick... it has rear parking sensors which is never (at least not that I can think of) found in compacts unless they're premium/luxury.

The Cruze has those...

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There is a point to this, but while both the Venza and RX are related, they're two different forms of ugly. :P

Yes, one is ugly as f@#k and the other is ugly as $h!.

Which is which is personal opinion.

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Yes, one is ugly as f@#k and the other is ugly as $h!.

Which is which is personal opinion.

have you guys seen these in person? grille and face may be the worst feature of the venza, but it was one of the most impressive new vehicles at the auto show. rx continues as inoffensive and sport-lite as possible. they're not at all bad looking [and both slightly more enjoyable overall than equinox and srx though equinox's face is very appealing]........but this is a matter of personal opinion.

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A Delta II Buick is a good idea if it doesn't look like the Cruze. If it is a badge job with a new grille and headlights, it will fail. And the interior should be 2010 LaCrosse at a minimum.

without a doubt you've hit the head on the nail on two points. this is why GM gets picked on. meanwhile ford manages to build distinct and differently marketed vehicles like the C30 and Focus and Mazda 3 hatch on the same platform, along with thier euro minivans and the Kuga.......GM gives us the exact same sedan across two brands, potentially more............we all know they've done this in the past. they stretch thier resources too thin and to save money and focus on short term profit, they sacrifice the vehicle they're working on. i've learned to set low expectations and not hope anymore with GM. even though I want them to put effort into designing totally different interiors and using completely different aesthetic themes and use different materials and suspension tuning a la Audi A3 v. VW Golf in order to really differentiate the models, sell to different consumers, and build the brands.......even though this is what i want in an ideal world, they simply won't listen to me or to my good reason. GM, soon, it's gonna be over between us.

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my bottom line....the article implies GM could allocate the funds better so as to serve the most profitable and volume market first, bring out the Cruze faster, since it's a mainstream hit and that's what GM needs now. i know i know, china is a big market and pays for itself yada yada. ignoring good product for the home market is a big part of the problem they're in.

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before i get cat-calls on how i can make all these assumptions and what not: look at the pictures, this is not a radically divergent shape from Cruze, they could do much even with a similar shape to seperate luxurious from mainstream via sheetmetal changes, that I will give them the benefit of the doubt on. HOWEVER, we all know GM well enough to know they suck at this kind of thing. platform sharing is just not thier forte. they never manage thier resources well and tune the vehicles well to maximize segments, minimize overlap, maximize profit, efficiently use the capability of the platform, so on and so forth.

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Agreed on the differentiation.

I was wondering about this being the Astra Sedan or something else... and your Brazil comment is interesting too: would that be the Vectra, or would the Insignia go there as a new Vectra? I think I saw a Chevy-badged Insignia with the Vectra name in a pic of some car show in Brazil, but I don't have a link to that on my Favorites anymore...

I'm not sure. The current Chevrolet Vectra in Brazil is an Opel Astra sedan, but that doesn't mean that GM won't change that direction in the future. The Insignia could replace it, maybe? I don't know for sure. I was just taking a guess at it based on the current arrangement (current Brazillian Chevy Vectra = current Opel Astra sedan).

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have you guys seen these in person? grille and face may be the worst feature of the venza, but it was one of the most impressive new vehicles at the auto show. rx continues as inoffensive and sport-lite as possible. they're not at all bad looking [and both slightly more enjoyable overall than equinox and srx though equinox's face is very appealing]........but this is a matter of personal opinion.

Yes, I have seen the new Venza and RX in person at the Louisville auto show and I stand by my statement.

You kiss your mother with that mouth?

I don't kiss my mother at all.

In fact I haven't kissed anyone, period, since early November.

I suppose that explains everything huh?

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The sedan in question looks to have the same 4 piece side window treatment and hockey stick shaped side crease (although reversed from the one that adorns the Insignia) as the spy shots and renderings of the next gen Astra 5-door. I believe this car is the next gen Astra sedan and that it will turn out to be quite a bit different from the Chevrolet Cruze. The car might share a roofline arch with the Cruze, but I believe everything below that roofline arch will be differentiated enough to save this car from being labeled as a blatant rebadge.

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Meh..just another FWD generic...nothing worth getting excited about, whatever brand it ends up being.

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Here's some more pictures that were posted on LeftLane News:

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From what little is revealed, it looks like it will be well differentiated from the Cruze.

Source: LeftLane News

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