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PokeCrap can jump off a cliff, no interest and so tired of hearing all the pokecrap along with idiots walking around and into people trying to do who knows what with their phone and stupid digital creations.

 

What a waste of time and effort, if Humanity could just come together we could solve far bigger issues on this planet than people chasing a poke whatever.

 

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If Humanity could just come together we could solve far bigger issues on this planet than people chasing a poke whatever.

 

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Make America great again?

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PokeCrap can jump off a cliff, no interest and so tired of hearing all the pokecrap along with idiots walking around and into people trying to do who knows what with their phone and stupid digital creations.

 

What a waste of time and effort, if Humanity could just come together we could solve far bigger issues on this planet than people chasing a poke whatever.

 

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Sorry to get on my soapbox here, I don't have any issues with you personally or your usual posting...

 

But your post was brutally short sighted and frankly full of sh!t.

 

I don't know if you're aware of modern youth culture or the general obesity epidemic in America, but the post millennial generation of kids barely goes outside. I once read an article about Rickets and vitamin D deficiency-related illnesses making a comeback in children because they don't get enough sunlight. Additionally, living through the internet has caused some rather poor social development. Childhood obesity is also rampant in a way totally unseen even 15 years ago.

 

Now we have people from 10 to 40 years old playing Pokemon Go outside, happily getting tons of exercise, meeting people through a game that has zero cultural or racial biases. There are reports that this game is single handedly improving mental health on a national scale by getting people and kids off the internet and out in the fresh air, seeing their community. If you don't see the benefits in that, you're being foolish.

 

Like it or not, this form of game, "AR" or augmented reality on smart phones, is the next big thing. If it's not Pokemon, it's going to be something else. While distracted driving is clearly a problem with young drivers, the benefits of this sort of game to society greatly outweigh the negatives.

 

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What a waste of time and effort, if Humanity could just come together we could solve far bigger issues on this planet than people chasing a poke whatever.

 

cool let us know how that goes

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PokeCrap can jump off a cliff, no interest and so tired of hearing all the pokecrap along with idiots walking around and into people trying to do who knows what with their phone and stupid digital creations.

 

What a waste of time and effort, if Humanity could just come together we could solve far bigger issues on this planet than people chasing a poke whatever.

 

:fryingpan:

 

Sorry to get on my soapbox here, I don't have any issues with you personally or your usual posting...

 

But your post was brutally short sighted and frankly full of sh!t.

 

I don't know if you're aware of modern youth culture or the general obesity epidemic in America, but the post millennial generation of kids barely goes outside. I once read an article about Rickets and vitamin D deficiency-related illnesses making a comeback in children because they don't get enough sunlight. Additionally, living through the internet has caused some rather poor social development. Childhood obesity is also rampant in a way totally unseen even 15 years ago.

 

Now we have people from 10 to 40 years old playing Pokemon Go outside, happily getting tons of exercise, meeting people through a game that has zero cultural or racial biases. There are reports that this game is single handedly improving mental health on a national scale by getting people and kids off the internet and out in the fresh air, seeing their community. If you don't see the benefits in that, you're being foolish.

 

Like it or not, this form of game, "AR" or augmented reality on smart phones, is the next big thing. If it's not Pokemon, it's going to be something else. While distracted driving is clearly a problem with young drivers, the benefits of this sort of game to society greatly outweigh the negatives.

 

/rant

 

I can understand your rant, most parents today are FAILURES. My parents did not have the money to spend on excessive toys, or what ever people did just sitting inside. We camped every weekend hiking and exploring washington state. Growing up in a lumber town, there were competitions on throwing axes, fishing, finding things and overall being outside. I made sure my two kid did the same thing. As such, they love life outside and are healthy active contributing members of society.

 

Obesity is the lazy results of parents that are to self absorbed in their own life to take the time to take their kids outside and do healthy activities with them.

 

One can make all the excuses they want, but it boils down to the parents responsibility to make sure the kids are doing more than laying or sitting on their ass all day just exercising their thumbs. If you want to be a parent then you also take on the responsibility to raise them with understanding right from wrong, exercise and being active in the world.

 

Just my two cents, but I know if I can do this others can too.

 

So to me Pokeman is a waste of time. For those that are playing it and getting more exercise, good for them. We each find our own way to live an active healthy life and lead by example.

 

Best of luck to those that have kids.

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Sorry but this "hey it's gets kids outside" argument is a crock. Kids were already going outside with their damn phones, only now they're burying their faces in their phones hunting for imaginary creatures as opposed to Facebook, snapchat, or Twitter. Now, they are just targets on the road because they are too damn hyper focused on their phones.

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Sorry but this "hey it's gets kids outside" argument is a crock. Kids were already going outside with their damn phones, only now they're burying their faces in their phones hunting for imaginary creatures as opposed to Facebook, snapchat, or Twitter. Now, they are just targets on the road because they are too damn hyper focused on their phones.

 

If you have ANYTHING substantive to back that up, I'd love to see it. Obesity statistics alone, particularly in children, completely dismantle your whole "kids were already going outside" theory. The rise in vitamin-D deficiency that I mentioned also flies in the face of "kids were already going outside."

 

In fact, this is also true for adults: I met one guy at a "pokestop" who said "If you told me a month ago I'd walk 65 kilometers in two weeks for a game, I'd have assumed you're on all the drugs. All of them." (The game uses metric distances.) Now he's walking all over the community finding new places and talking to people he's never met. Everything I've read indicates this is the rule, not the exception.

 

I'd love to see any real evidence showing a negative overall affect of this game. I've been observing the progressing smart phone culture for a while now, because the effects have been pretty universally bad from a social standpoint, but this game is a huge leap in the direction of healthy progress.

 

Go to a bar, go to the grocery store, go anywhere and look at people staring at their phones, essentially segregating themselves in a public place. The pokemon game does the opposite of that.

 

Stop being negative for the sake of being negative, empirical evidence shows the game is anything but.

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No interest in the game, but I gotta side with CP on this one. If it's making people get off their couches and out to explore their neighborhoods and interact with other people in a positive manner, good for them.

 

People DO need to exercise caution when playing, though. Videos are already starting to pop up in the internet of people getting themselves into trouble/injured while playing. My wife had an ER patient who fell off a wall playing.

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Yes, stupid people will do stupid things, and viral videos involving pokemon go gain traction fast, just like the memes. People have been getting themselves into trouble with smart phone tunnel vision on a consistent basis, it's just not newsworthy anymore.

 

In Baltimore for a couple years now, they have a smash and grab "game" where thugs knock people out and steal their phone. Some of them have used pokemon go "pokestops" as a means for mugging.

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Anything substantive? Are you serious? Man, I see it everyday when these people come into my store, completely oblivious to their surroundings. I literally passed a girl in her VW playing the game WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING! There was a story just the other day of some moron running into a cop car because why? Because he was playing that game.

How about instead of advocating social interaction through a damn game, we advocate those same people actually put down the damn phone for more than minute and actually engage with those same people?

Empirical evidence literally contradicts your claim.

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Don't get me wrong CP. it's great that it's gets some lazy folks off their asses but also contributes to a further obliviousness to the real world, such as actually talking to people. The fact that someone needs a game to make this happen is a perfect reflection of the sadness that is society these days. Sorry but no one will change my mind on this so I'll just leave it at this. Be careful out there.

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Anything substantive? Are you serious? Man, I see it everyday when these people come into my store, completely oblivious to their surroundings. I literally passed a girl in her VW playing the game WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING! There was a story just the other day of some moron running into a cop car because why? Because he was playing that game.

How about instead of advocating social interaction through a damn game, we advocate those same people actually put down the damn phone for more than minute and actually engage with those same people?

Empirical evidence literally contradicts your claim.

 

Your conclusion is logically incorrect. You're confusing ANECDOTAL with empirical. Offer genuine evidence or move along, because you're technically derailing a thread that isn't supposed to be a debate about the merits of pokemon go, certainly not a place for people to bash it unjustifiably.

 

You haven't even debated my primary points of contention.

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Anything substantive? Are you serious? Man, I see it everyday when these people come into my store, completely oblivious to their surroundings. I literally passed a girl in her VW playing the game WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING! There was a story just the other day of some moron running into a cop car because why? Because he was playing that game.

How about instead of advocating social interaction through a damn game, we advocate those same people actually put down the damn phone for more than minute and actually engage with those same people?

Empirical evidence literally contradicts your claim.

Your conclusion is logically incorrect. You're confusing ANECDOTAL with empirical. Offer genuine evidence or move along, because you're technically derailing a thread that isn't supposed to be a debate about the merits of pokemon go, certainly not a place for people to bash it unjustifiably.

You haven't even debated my primary points of contention.

Yes I have. Maybe you should just watch the news sometime proving the obliviousness of some these "players". That is all the empirical evidence I need. You are just ignoring them because it does suit your stance on it and if you think that "socializing" around a game is actually somehow better than real human interaction, it is you that needs to get a clue here. Like I said, if folks want to play the game, more power to them but let's not act delusional over it like you are doing here.

Oh and you don't get to tell me to move along just I disagree with you. No one forced you to respond to my post and if you don't like that, then maybe it's you that should move along.

That is all.

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Anything substantive? Are you serious? Man, I see it everyday when these people come into my store, completely oblivious to their surroundings. I literally passed a girl in her VW playing the game WHILE SHE WAS DRIVING! There was a story just the other day of some moron running into a cop car because why? Because he was playing that game.

How about instead of advocating social interaction through a damn game, we advocate those same people actually put down the damn phone for more than minute and actually engage with those same people?

Empirical evidence literally contradicts your claim.

Your conclusion is logically incorrect. You're confusing ANECDOTAL with empirical. Offer genuine evidence or move along, because you're technically derailing a thread that isn't supposed to be a debate about the merits of pokemon go, certainly not a place for people to bash it unjustifiably.

You haven't even debated my primary points of contention.

Yes I have. Maybe you should just watch the news sometime proving the obliviousness of some these "players". That is all the empirical evidence I need. You are just ignoring them because it does suit your stance on it and if you think that "socializing" around a game is actually somehow better than real human interaction, it is you that needs to get a clue here. Like I said, if folks want to play the game, more power to them but let's not act delusional over it like you are doing here.

Oh and you don't get to tell me to move along just I disagree with you. No one forced you to respond to my post and if you don't like that, then maybe it's you that should move along.

That is all.

 

 

Actually, you specifically responded to my comment, despite not actually quoting my post. You brought on the debate. My stance, like my political beliefs, is based on statistics and evidence, not anecdotes and feelings which is literally what you've brought to the table.

 

I openly invited proof and evidence against me, you admitted closed mindedness on the subject "no one will change my mind on this" and simultaneously accuse me of ignoring opposition? That's just weak, man.

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In response to the OP, I'm only a level 14 trainer because I just play after work, and my town isn't ideal. My best pokemon are Flareon, Golbat, Venonat, and Pinsir. The Flareon is at 930cp and the rest are 600-700cp.

 

My fiance and I took our first gym last night, then came home and banged. How's that for an anecdote?

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Gonna catch'em all?!!

 

I call my Magi-carp a Squishy. And it is MINE. My Squishy. MINEEEEE!!!!

 

I would be someone to play this game...but I already ride my bike and am doing a lot more physical activity.

 

Also don't have a data plan for der phone, so SOL.

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In response to the OP, I'm only a level 14 trainer because I just play after work, and my town isn't ideal. My best pokemon are Flareon, Golbat, Venonat, and Pinsir. The Flareon is at 930cp and the rest are 600-700cp.

 

My fiance and I took our first gym last night, then came home and banged. How's that for an anecdote?

All of which could been done long before the game ever existed.

 

Sorry, maybe it's a generational thing (I'm 43) but I will simply not be convinced of the "pros" of this game when the "pros" could have been applied without the game, i.e. actually going out with these people and interacting the old fashioned way, sans the damn phone.

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Don't get me wrong CP. it's great that it's gets some lazy folks off their asses but also contributes to a further obliviousness to the real world, such as actually talking to people. The fact that someone needs a game to make this happen is a perfect reflection of the sadness that is society these days. Sorry but no one will change my mind on this so I'll just leave it at this. Be careful out there.

 

 

The fact that someone needs a 'game' to make this happen?

 

 

You mean like baseball? Or football? Or Soccer? Or basketball? Like those games? What makes those superior to a Pokemon game?

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