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I simply CAN'T believe I'm the first one to throw this up on The Lounge.....

I friggin' love her.......sometimes I can't pin my finger on why I do......but I see some surprising strength in the way she carries herself, in the way she speaks (scripted or not)....and I see strength in the many things she has accomplished as Governor of Alaska. (I'll admit I had to do my own research on her to know much....)

In addition, she seems like a "normal" working woman with a "normal" family.

And, she has charm a-plenty, I think......VERY un-Hillary-like.......(and I'm somewhat of a Hillary fan, believe it or not....)

I think Obama has been knocked off kilter quite a bit by the recent announcement by McCain of Palin as his running mate.....I really don't think Obama saw this coming....at all....and I think he's kicking himself because he could've had Hillary.......(but alas he was too proud to ask her to be his V.P. running mate.)

Many criticize that McCain is old.....and should he pass away, she would be the President. And many feel she wouldn't be able to handle it, or wouldn't be effective in foreign affairs.

Well, first of all, McCain has to die FIRST for her to get the top job. And secondly, I think I'd rather have her experience as a mayor and governor than I would have Obama in the FIRST place....!

She is supposedly quite conservative, but time will tell if she's conservative to a detrimental effect.....I'm betting she won't be.

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I think she's awesome. Just watching her speech at the RNC was enough to make me back her. Given, I do like many of the things she is for, so don't say I'm voting on her character. I do think she has a great charisma about her and I, too, like the fact that she seems like a normal American citizen who was picked out of the blue.

Seeing McCain pick somebody way off the charts like this shows that he's still got "it" and he obviously does his research before making decisions.

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Forget about Obama, I don't think McCain saw her coming.

Her biggest problem is that she tells easily refutable lies. All politicians lie, but at least be smart about it.

I'm curious why the media hasn't called her out on the "I was always against the Bridge to Nowhere" lie the way they did with Clinton's "Ducking under sniper fire" lie.

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And that's why I don't like her.

Ya...the whole 'skin a moose and make mooseburgers' shtick or whatever, 'NRA life membership', and 'extreme pro-life' stance I find disgusting.

Inexperienced in government (a mayor of podunk and governor of a remote state don't count) and the far right wing angle is a total turn off.

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Ya...the whole 'skin a moose and make mooseburgers' shtick or whatever, 'NRA life membership', and 'extreme pro-life' stance I find disgusting.

Inexperienced in government (a mayor of podunk and governor of a remote state don't count) and the far right wing angle is a total turn off.

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Ya...the whole 'skin a moose and make mooseburgers' shtick or whatever, 'NRA life membership', and 'extreme pro-life' stance I find disgusting.

Inexperienced in government (a mayor of podunk and governor of a remote state don't count) and the far right wing angle is a total turn off.

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+2 This girl needs to go home and focus on her family instead of trying to tell others how to live their life and then like so many neo conservatives, double standard do what I say not what I do crap. She is a total white trash, lying more of Bush politics. Why would anyone want a person who took a town with NO DEBT and left it with 22 million in DEBT! She is now trying to do the same thing with the State. That is the type of person they DO NOT NEED! Our Country DOES NOT NEED Her or McCain. That ticket is all about more of the current same BS, Porkbarrel spending and double standards to make a rich and poor cast system here in America. :toiletpaper:

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Something I found on the web, from someone's myspace page...

The top 10 things you should know about Sarah Palin:

  1. She is presently under investigation in Alaska for abuse of power
  2. She believes creationism should be taught in public schools
  3. She is opposed to abortion even in cases of rape and incest
  4. She strongly supports big oil (her husband works for oil company BP)
  5. She has no federal or international experience. Prior to being governor (for less than two years) she was only the mayor of a small Alaskan town and a beauty queen!
  6. She believes global warming is a farce and is opposed to listing the polar bear as an endangered species
  7. She supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and anywhere else big oil wants
  8. She supports Pebble Mine which will destroy the richest salmon run in the world
  9. She supports aerial shooting of bears and wolves even though Alaskans voted twice to ban the practice.
  10. She used $400,000 of state money to fund a media campaign in support of aerial shooting of wolves and bears
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Bear viewing in Alaska generates $100,000,000/yr. yet Palin refuses to even learn about the industry

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her families living room

Now, I haven't starting looking up sources for every one of those points, but I have seen several of them across the web.

The last thing this country needs is another radically conservative, redneck/white trash bible thumping ignoramus in power.

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+2 This girl needs to go home and focus on her family instead of trying to tell others how to live their life and then like so many neo conservatives, double standard do what I say not what I do crap. She is a total white trash, lying more of Bush politics. Why would anyone want a person who took a town with NO DEBT and left it with 22 million in DEBT! She is now trying to do the same thing with the State. That is the type of person they DO NOT NEED! Our Country DOES NOT NEED Her or McCain. That ticket is all about more of the current same BS, Porkbarrel spending and double standards to make a rich and poor cast system here in America. :toiletpaper:

+1 :thumbsup:

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Now, I haven't starting looking up sources for every one of those points, but I have seen several of them across the web.

The last thing this country needs is another radically conservative, redneck/white trash bible thumping ignoramus in power.

Actually I ran across the full story on Newsweek web site that this is quoted from. All the listed facts are true. One can only hope America will wake up finally and not allow 4 more years of destruction to our country.

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Don't forget that Wasilla was the only municipality in Alaska during her tenure as mayor that charged victims of rape and/or sexual assault for the rape kit DNA testing--until Alaskan legislature made that illegal specifically because of Palin/Wasilla.

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Well, for starters, she's certainly made it obvious over the last few weeks that she has no idea what a community organizer is.

Policy-wise, she's pretty much the exact opposite of what I think our country needs right now.

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Not a fan. Even though the banned books thing turned out to be false, the Wasilla sports complex controversy does not bode well for her political career, or the fact that she was nearly ousted as mayor in her first year. Yeah she seems to have energy and is charismatic, but she is far too tied to her evangelical Christian values to be taken seriously as a Vice President of the United States.

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She sure is getting a lot of people talking. And from what I understand, the polls look promising. After the DNC, Obama/Biden enjoyed no bump, but after the RNC, McCain/Palin took a sizable jump, and are in the lead in a lot of polls.
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Worst. VP pick. Ever.

She has no business running for national office, if she were actually the person people were voting for, it would a landslide loss of record proportion. She knows nothing about governing, all she knows is how to read the speeches McCain's people write for her attacking Obama. Why do you think she hasn't done a single live interview yet? Her ABC interview is going to take place (or has taken place, may have been yesterday and today) over the course of a few days, which gives her a ton of time to prepare for questions and to leave and come back to "clarify" what she may have said earlier. Has any other VP pick been protected from the media so much? Just awful and an insult to Americans.

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I'm from Texas, I know White Trash when I see it, even when it comes from Alaska!

I had to bite my lip, but now I can go with the flow. Don't kid yourself, the PNW has plenty of white trash. Can you spell "Tonya Harding?" The local trash up there resented the fact that transplanted Californians and Northeasterners actually lifted the cultural profile of the place...not to mention adding more attractive people to their ranks than the local inbreds.

Re the OP, I respect what she's accomplished but she ain't the best thing since sliced bread. Yeah, look at her husband and some of her kids. They'll have to go to "charm school" for execs and first families, I guess.

Palin comes from Sandpoint ID. It's a neat little town between Coeur d'Alene and the Canadian border. Look her up on NNDB. It indicates she was baptized Roman Catholic (you know, normal), but then went "fundy."

I had pretty much decided on McCain until this came along. He needed to have a person with strong charisma AND good experience. I'm not convinced.

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I had pretty much decided on McCain until this came along. He needed to have a person which strong charisma AND good experience. I'm not convinced.

you mean a 72 year old man with a history of cancer should have picked someone qualified to be the leader of the free world?

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she's more genuine than hillary and has the demeanor to accomplish more. she also has the tenacity to be a bulldog and not a pussy on foreign policy and on capitol hill. margaret thatcher with a rifle.

she makes hillary look like a hack, hillary never did anything.

i doubt i'd agree with all that she professes, but she picks a route and goes with it. and i don't think she'll put up with bull$h! and gridlock.

i can't wait for a WWF style matchup between her and Pelosi. hair pulling, commence!

now the x factor is the same thing that got bill clinton elected. since so many women wanted to have sex with Bill, they put him in office. Its the same thing here, in reverse. Its not a crime for men who find her fetching to allow that to affect their vote a little, when that's how clinton got in office. i sure think she's got some style that's fer sure. But she's not a nut job like hillary.

this election is like 'the apprentice'. i think what we'll have to evaluate on here is more about 'mental makeup' than actual experience.

by that litmus, hill already showed she was a wuss with her little campaign estrogen moment.

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now the x factor is the same thing that got bill clinton elected. since so many women wanted to have sex with Bill, they put him in office. Its the same thing here, in reverse. Its not a crime for men who find her fetching to allow that to affect their vote a little, when that's how clinton got in office. i sure think she's got some style that's fer sure. But she's not a nut job like hillary

I know more than a handful of pissed-off Republicans right now...specifically about the Palin choice.

Bill Clinton looks like, has always looked like, and sounds like a hick, despite lofty pedigrees. Go to one of those bohemian stores that have the nasty greeting cards. There's one birthday card with Bill and Hillary on the cover, showing them as college students, and inside it says "You haven't gotten older, you've gotten better." They did NOT look good.

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Oy, where to begin? I’m not an Obama supporter. I’m a very disillusioned republican. I believe McCain’s choice of Sara Palin as his running mate was an act of political expediency without regard for her knowledge or ability to assume the presidency. I believe it was a last minute choice and there was no significant investigation into her background before the decision was made.

She read a speech at the republican convention. Since then, all she does is repeat sections of that speech and repeat claims about her record where the evidence indicates that she is being less than honest. All the while, the McCain campaign severely limits her access to the press. They have decreed that any interaction between Palin and the press is off the record so she doesn’t have to defend her record.

I think she is a religious extremist and would be willing to bend the law or outright ignore it to get what she wants or what she thinks god wants. I would not want her or anyone like her to be in the position to make the decisions the president has to deal with.

I was talking with a friend of mine about this the other day and he proposed an interesting hypothetical situation. Assume that McCain had picked someone else as a running mate who was totally non-controversial and they went on to win the election. Now assume that within days after taking the oath of office, his vice president died. In this situation without the pressure and hoopla of a campaign, do you think McCain would choose Palin and do you think she would actually make it through the confirmation hearings? I don’t.

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Palin on the Bush Doctrine:

I believe that what President Bush has attempted to do is rid this world of Islamic extremism. Terrorists who are hellbent on destroying our nation. There have been blunders along the way, though, there have been mistakes made. And with new leadership -- and that's the beauty of American elections of course and of democracy -- is with new leadership comes opportunity to do things better.

All Bush said as that we have the right to invade a sovereign nation (without a declaration of war) if there is a remote possibility that said nation will attack the U.S. Palin apparently interprets that as...I dont know, we suck at getting terrorists?

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One of the quirks of this year is that the conventions were back-to-back. You can thank the Olympics for McCain getting a big post-convention bump, he was able to prevent an Obama poll bump by announcing Palin the day after Obama accepted, then go into a convention, then further use Palin's charisma to stay at the forefront of the news. McCain isn't dumb, he just has stupid ideas. Like picking someone only marginally more qualified than me to be vp.

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There is almost always a jump after the conventions. Obama didn't get much of a jump because the conventions were so close together this year and McCain essentially steamrolled over the DNC bounce with his own convention.

Things will level out again in a week after swinegate has run its course. Polls right now are going to be volatile until the debates.

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For contrast, here is how Palin handles an interviews with ABC News. I didn't like her before, but after seeing how she not only handled that interview (you can tell Tom wasn't buying her BS) to the fact that she is another bible thumper...that is not a person I want in office. Go back to Alaska.

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/pop...16&src=news

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Palin on the Bush Doctrine:

All Bush said as that we have the right to invade a sovereign nation (without a declaration of war) if there is a remote possibility that said nation will attack the U.S. Palin apparently interprets that as...I dont know, we suck at getting terrorists?

Yeah, how about if she had to make a decision about pushing "the buttons" while on the rag?

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I simply CAN'T believe I'm the first one to throw this up on The Lounge.....

I friggin' love her.......sometimes I can't pin my finger on why I do......but I see some surprising strength in the way she carries herself, in the way she speaks (scripted or not)....and I see strength in the many things she has accomplished as Governor of Alaska. (I'll admit I had to do my own research on her to know much....)

In addition, she seems like a "normal" working woman with a "normal" family.

And, she has charm a-plenty, I think......VERY un-Hillary-like.......(and I'm somewhat of a Hillary fan, believe it or not....)

I think Obama has been knocked off kilter quite a bit by the recent announcement by McCain of Palin as his running mate.....I really don't think Obama saw this coming....at all....and I think he's kicking himself because he could've had Hillary.......(but alas he was too proud to ask her to be his V.P. running mate.)

Many criticize that McCain is old.....and should he pass away, she would be the President. And many feel she wouldn't be able to handle it, or wouldn't be effective in foreign affairs.

Well, first of all, McCain has to die FIRST for her to get the top job. And secondly, I think I'd rather have her experience as a mayor and governor than I would have Obama in the FIRST place....!

She is supposedly quite conservative, but time will tell if she's conservative to a detrimental effect.....I'm betting she won't be.

The O.C. I totally agree she is great and breath of fresh air. She can totally relate with average people.

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Apparently you CAN put lipstick on a pig!!! just kidding

Really, she is the most repulsive woman ever. The more you find out about her the more you hate her.

+2. Agreed.

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The O.C. I totally agree she is great and breath of fresh air. She can totally relate with average people.

Average people fire a guy because he wont punish their sister's estranged husband? Ordinary people get a per diem from the state to stay in the home that they own? Ordinary people want to tell their neighbors what they can and cannot do with their bodies?

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Man, aren't we polarized? Then you wonder why I run a poll like are you "liberal or conservative?" LOL.

Polarized? Sure looks to me like the majority of people here are against her. And I'm 110% with them.

Just about the LAST thing we need.

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Man, aren't we polarized? Then you wonder why I run a poll like are you "liberal or conservative?" LOL.

:) ...but this has different meanings in different countries.

I'm sure Europe is on its own scale again, but I will speak of Canada because I know it.

SCALE:  traditional left wing .......................................... traditional right wing
Canada: ....NDP...................Liberals.............Conservatives
USA:    .........................................Democrats..............Republicans

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>>"Average people fire a guy because he wont punish their sister's estranged husband?"<<

Anybody bother look into the specifics in this case, or are you all just a bit too eager to add another arrow to your Democrat quivver?

TIMELINE

You talk as if Wooten was some sort of humanitarian model officer, instead of a multiple-reprimand, drunk-driving, child-tasering, murder-threatening, loose cannon with a badge. All 4 of his marriages have ended in divorce- no doubt he's always the soft-spoken, humble father he appears to be when the camera is on & his union rep is at his side. :rolleyes: Look at the guy- he's 4 feet wide: imagine the confrontations between him, his trooper ego & his wife- no doubt amicable... so the domestic abuse restraining order is a real puzzler. His actions more than justified his ass getting fired (which it wasn't), yet a mere 10 day suspension for --it can't be for threating to shoot his father-in-law; why was that ignored?-- was, of course, challenged by the police union and knocked down to 5 days. Wow, what a victory for public safety.

Monegan's job as public safety comissioner was an appointed cabinet position under the governor. In other words, he served at her discretion. What portion of his refusal to fire Wooten (Palin never directed Monegan to fire Wooten, only suggested it) was sourced from himself being an ex-officer/ police union member? Does a 5-day suspension for all Wooten's transgressions really serve the public's interest? Does not Monegam's failed judgement of these events & refusal to remove a dangerous cop play a part in his evaluated ability to perform his job as PSC?

Palin did her job justly, IMO. Sure, there probably was a degree of emotion involved on Palin's part, sourced from direct knowledge of the situation, but this pales in comparison to the big picture: public safety. And yes, that rightfully includes Wooten's family, regardless of their relationship with Palin. If Monegan could not reasonably perform his duty as public safety commissioner responsible for ensuring that, he should not hold the position.

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Average people fire a guy because he wont punish their sister's estranged husband? Ordinary people get a per diem from the state to stay in the home that they own? Ordinary people want to tell their neighbors what they can and cannot do with their bodies?

Yes, if they can get away with it.

I am afraid that white rural and working class America prefers a beautiful charismatic lady with little knowledge and experience over an intellectual black man with a funny name.

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So a governer is supposed to keep tabs on what every state trooper is doing at home, because it may impact what they may do at work? She had no reason, as governer, to get involved. If the officer in question hadn't been her sister's estranged husband, she probably wouldn't have even known what was going on. Abuse of power.

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So a governer is supposed to keep tabs on what every state trooper is doing at home, because it may impact what they may do at work? She had no reason, as governer, to get involved. If the officer in question hadn't been her sister's estranged husband, she probably wouldn't have even known what was going on. Abuse of power.

This is not about other troopers, and it's not what he "may" have done at work, but what he DID do as a representative of the State Police. Cops answer to higher standards than most other professions (or they're supposed to) and those standards encompass off-duty behavior, also.

You're saying that merely because she knew about this reckless cop, one who had threatened to make someone "eat a F-ing lead bullet", she should've just turned the other way and waited until someone was beaten or killed? What the hell kind of logic is this ??

Palin had every reason to suggest to the Public Safety Commissioner that this public danger be removed as part of PCS's job responsibility. Ignoring problems don't make them go away. She got involved because Monegan would not. Monegan deserved to be fired for lack of judgement, and Wooten deserves to be fired for conduct unbecoming of an officer. Palin deserves praise for being involved in the public's safety and sticking up for what's right.

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Hi, Your average 72 year old has a 66% chance of living till 80. Average 72 year olds dont have top notch presidential medical care. I have little doubt that he will live well through his first term. Look at his mom! his MOM was there at the RNC and shes like 96!

Obama and friends are making a huge mistake by continiously going after Palin instead of McCain. As Obama and friends pound on Palin, who will sway next to no voters, McCain can go about making his idea of change look better.

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Hi, Your average 72 year old has a 66% chance of living till 80. Average 72 year olds dont have top notch presidential medical care. I have little doubt that he will live well through his first term. Look at his mom! his MOM was there at the RNC and shes like 96!

Obama and friends are making a huge mistake by continiously going after Palin instead of McCain. As Obama and friends pound on Palin, who will sway next to no voters, McCain can go about making his idea of change look better.

His idea of change is ordering new whitehouse stationary.

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Better than destroying the last vestiges of personal responsibility left in this country.

yes, you're right. The destruction of our civil liberties is minor.

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P.S. What personal responsibilities is Obama going to take over for me?...... Just trying to figure out where my schedule is going to free up.

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Between the war in Iraq, and the overwhelming liberal bandwagon jumping by

so many these days to paint Bush & Cheney as typical Republicans, add to

that the fact that we've had 8 years of a Republican prez & it would have been

a safe prediction that the Democrats would win this one, just a year ago it

would have been my educated guess that a Democratic win would have been

all but certain.

But then Hil666ry Clinton and some noob who used to be an anti-American,

community activist & goes to a church that rates in blatant racism at about

the same scale as a typical white trash KKK-Podunk, duke it out for months &

throw so much mud and undermine themselves to a degree where people with

jackass tattoos on their chest are talking how the better choice this time around

is going to be to vote for the moderate Elephant.

Add to that a strong minded woman VP?

It's all over. Like it or not, and trust me, I know McCain is no saint or even a

great alternative to Bush, but he WILL win this election.

Stop and think fora moment.

ALL Republicans are either gladly voting for McCain or they're voting for him

because they think McCain/Palin are the lesser of two evils.

And a small chunk of people who are dyed-in-the-wool Democrats are going

to get on board the McCain train simply because they are turned off my many

of the radical left skeletons in Obama's closet, or his racist wife, or any other

(if technically stupid) reason WHY they said that they either vote for Hillary or

if she lost the nomination for Obama's rival. Many Democrats. you see, are

petty and childish.... just like many Republicans.

now.... what do I think of Sarah Palin?

MILF! :spin:

I'd hit that like a Kenworth W900 hauling California Redwoods with

massive brake failure, going downhill.

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Personal responsibility....You mean like, say a 13 year old girl is raped and impregnated, and is potentially forced by law to keep the child because its her responsibility?

I don't usually get involved in political stuff, but this is a pretty uneducated quote. First of all, I highly doubt the ruling of pro-choice will be reversed, and even if it is, if you go by the Catholic teachings (I am not Catholic but I did go to a Catholic school, so I know) then in cases such as the one you listed, birth control is acceptable. In such a case, assuming the girl reported the incident, she would be allowed to take a morning after pill at the hospital and not be doing anything wrong, again according to the Catholic church.

But the ruling is never going to be reversed, so it is stupid to get into this in the first place.

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Palin has said that she opposes abortion even in cases of incest and rape.

That is her stance, even McCain does not agree with her on that and said so yesterday, by saying to the media, that is not Cindy's and my belief, when they informed him of her stance on abortion.

She's a loose cannon, and will be McCain's undoing.

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>>"So the president can fire the Secretary of the Treasury because an official at a local IRS office didn't claim all of his casino winnings on his taxes?"<<

Yeah: failure to report casino winnings is the same thing as someone "eating a F'ing lead bullet".

Can you see the cause of this entire issue at all, or are you content to just point a finger at Palin and dance the pee-pee dance ??

>>"Best quote about Palin's candidacy...... "It's like a really bad Disney movie!""<<

Yeah- Matt Damon. :rolleyes: Hollyweird; these disfunctionals are paid to pretend for a living, they provide escapism and nothing more. We're supposed to lend weigh to what they really think about real life ?? It's ludicrious.

Olds- I suppose you were ROTF RE Gershon's lil impression of Palin, too, eh?

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I don't usually get involved in political stuff, but this is a pretty uneducated quote. First of all, I highly doubt the ruling of pro-choice will be reversed, and even if it is, if you go by the Catholic teachings (I am not Catholic but I did go to a Catholic school, so I know) then in cases such as the one you listed, birth control is acceptable. In such a case, assuming the girl reported the incident, she would be allowed to take a morning after pill at the hospital and not be doing anything wrong, again according to the Catholic church.

But the ruling is never going to be reversed, so it is stupid to get into this in the first place.

Sorry Northie, but you're wrong. Roe v. Wade could very easily get reversed if McCain/Palin appoint another conservative judge to the bench. Bush got 2. All it would take for Roe v. Wade to be overturned/reversed is another stupid abortion case arguing one little twist they haven't heard before, them deciding to take the case (conservative activist majority would likely do this), and then rule in a way that overturns the Roe v. Wade precedent.

And no offense, but who cares about the Catholic teaching? Maybe that's relevant in Rome. Palin's against BC as well, and if these things are made difficult to obtain, the point's moot. Also, what kind of BC is acceptable in a case of a pregnant rape victim? BC is preventative...

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The partisan gang-banging in here speaks volumes.

Realistically do you think the gang-banging is gonna go if either of the candidate comes victorious? Four years ago after Bush got elected there was a fine piece of cover page write up in Economist saying, "Now unite US." We are back at the same point.

The entire system needs a overhaul, we are 332 years into the system. That is stone age compared to car platform overhaul (well neophite when it comes to compare with W-body) and Jurassic era compared to computers.

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Sorry Northie, but you're wrong. Roe v. Wade could very easily get reversed if McCain/Palin appoint another conservative judge to the bench. Bush got 2. All it would take for Roe v. Wade to be overturned/reversed is another stupid abortion case arguing one little twist they haven't heard before, them deciding to take the case (conservative activist majority would likely do this), and then rule in a way that overturns the Roe v. Wade precedent.

And no offense, but who cares about the Catholic teaching? Maybe that's relevant in Rome. Palin's against BC as well, and if these things are made difficult to obtain, the point's moot. Also, what kind of BC is acceptable in a case of a pregnant rape victim? BC is preventative...

Perhaps it is possible, but I doubt it would happen.

As for the Catholic teaching, I just figured that was what Palin probably based her views on, but apparently I'm not correct. If a rape were to occur, the women could get a birth control pill the next day and everything would be fine...

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Perhaps it is possible, but I doubt it would happen.

As for the Catholic teaching, I just figured that was what Palin probably based her views on, but apparently I'm not correct. If a rape were to occur, the women could get a birth control pill the next day and everything would be fine...

Palin is far from being Catholic, she is a Pentecostal. She wants to have a direct personal experience of God through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues etc. They believe the earth is only 5000 years old and dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago. :rolleyes:

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Palin is far from being Catholic, she is a Pentecostal. She wants to have a direct personal experience of God through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues etc. They believe the earth is only 5000 years old and dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago. :rolleyes:

Ok, well even if she has some wacko religious beliefs, that doesn't mean she's going to be able to make you or anyone else in the country follow them, even if she becomes president.

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Palin is far from being Catholic, she is a Pentecostal. She wants to have a direct personal experience of God through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues etc. They believe the earth is only 5000 years old and dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago. :rolleyes:

There is a museum in my state which is devoted to and teaches Pentecostal views on the creation of life. They even have exhibits that depict humans riding dinosaurs like horses. I have no place in chastising anyone for their religious views, but I do find entertaining the whole thought that life used to be like an episode of The Flintstones quite absurd.

But, anyhow, back to the topic at hand.

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There is a museum in my state which is devoted to and teaches Pentecostal views on the creation of life. They even have exhibits that depict humans riding dinosaurs like horses. I have no place in chastising anyone for their religious views, but I do find entertaining the whole thought that life used to be like an episode of The Flintstones quite absurd.

But, anyhow, back to the topic at hand.

Hey don't be knocking the Flintstones, their cars were green, very little carbon footprint, after all they ran on foot power. :smilewide:

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Anyone else see that state spending in Alaska increased 30% in the two years Palin has been governor? She was able to keep the budget in good shape by raising taxes. And that "bridge to nowhere" money was kept by the state and used for things other than a bridge to nowhere.

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>>"Best quote about Palin's candidacy...... "It's like a really bad Disney movie!""<<

Yeah- Matt Damon. :rolleyes: Hollyweird; these disfunctionals are paid to pretend for a living, they provide escapism and nothing more. We're supposed to lend weigh to what they really think about real life ?? It's ludicrious.

Olds- I suppose you were ROTF RE Gershon's lil impression of Palin, too, eh?

Just because he's Hollywood doesn't mean he can't be right.

I have no idea the impression you're referring to

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The partisan gang-banging in here speaks volumes.

Had McCain picked Christine Todd Whitmann, I would have come to the conclusion that he's serious about the economy and serious about the environment.... or just plain serious period.

Whitmann is an environmentalist former two term NJ Governor who cut taxes and balanced the state budget. The then was head of the EPA.

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Ok, well even if she has some wacko religious beliefs, that doesn't mean she's going to be able to make you or anyone else in the country follow them, even if she becomes president.

Dude. Executive power provides for Judiciary appointments, which are then lifetime appointments. How the way the Supreme Court functions for the next decade or two isn't a big deal to you I cannot fathom.

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Anyone else see that state spending in Alaska increased 30% in the two years Palin has been governor? She was able to keep the budget in good shape by raising taxes. And that "bridge to nowhere" money was kept by the state and used for things other than a bridge to nowhere.

Did you know there is a second $600 million dollar bridge that she does still support (as of now at least) that would allow residents from her home town to get to Anchorage faster.....?

I'll try and get more links later.

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PCS- >>"Palin is far from being Catholic, she is a Pentecostal. She wants to have a direct personal experience of God through the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, speaking in tongues etc. They believe the earth is only 5000 years old and dinosaurs existed 4000 years ago."<<

>>>Pentecostalism is an umbrella term including a wide range of different theological and organizational perspectives. As a result, there is no central organization or church which directs the movement.<<< --wiki :rolleyes:

Are you sure about exactly what she believes?

Obama is far from being a Catholic, he practices black liberation theology (and so does his wife, whom he has stated would be one of his top advisors):

>>>Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal.<<< --wiki :rolleyes:

I'm sure both would be equally driven to force their religions on the rest of the country by radical law... OR... perhaps they can both separate their personal beliefs from what they believe is good/right for the country. You know- like individual freedom of religion. You can't legitimately have it 2 ways here. Either this sh!t is important across the board of candidates, or it's not.

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Oldsmoboi- >>"Just because he's Hollywood doesn't mean he can't be right."<<

No, he could get lucky, I suppose, but living in that cocaine-infused fantasyworld doesn't make even that likely. The entire entertainment industry is a liberal wacko-ward :

>>>"I think America has no experience with terrorism or even with war. In Europe, we know a little bit more about these things." -- Bono

Like how to appease and make multimillion dollar deals with dictators who support terrorists?

"America has never paid any attention to other people, so it's absurd for Bush to say that it's all in the best interests of the Iraqi people." -- Richard Gere

Yeah! Yeah! We never paid any attention to the Jews, or the French, or the Russians, or the Mexicans, or the Spanish, or the British, or the Kuwaitis, or the Bosnians, or anyone else! We are so totally all about isolationism.

"Have we gone to war yet? We f'ing deserve to get bombed. Bring it on." -- Chrissie Hynde.

By "we," do you mean you and the French, since that's where you're living? Because if that's the case, then I wholeheartedly agree with you.

"Melt their weapons, melt their hearts, melt their anger with love." -- Shirley MacLaine on her anti-terrorism policy.

'While they melt your skin with searing hot iron rods.' -- Iraqi Prisoners on the torture policy of Saddam and his thugs.

"This is a racist and imperialist war. The warmongers who stole the White House have hijacked a nation's grief and turned it into a perpetual war on any non-white country they choose to describe as terrorist." -- Woody Harrelson

'And right after I finish smoking this shirt made of hemp, I'm gonna go visit my convicted murderer father in prison and hire him to kill the President, as soon as I get out of rehab.<<<

Maybe they're right, too, eh?

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>>"Had McCain picked Christine Todd Whitmann, I would have come to the conclusion that he's serious about the economy and serious about the environment.... or just plain serious period."<<

Don't leave out that just about the last thing we heard publically from Whitman was that the air in NYC right after 9/11 was 'OKily-dOKily'. Or was she not being serious there?

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Oldsmoboi- >>"Just because he's Hollywood doesn't mean he can't be right."<<

No, he could get lucky, I suppose, but living in that cocaine-infused fantasyworld doesn't make even that likely. The entire entertainment industry is a liberal wacko-ward :

>>>"I think America has no experience with terrorism or even with war. In Europe, we know a little bit more about these things." -- Bono

Like how to appease and make multimillion dollar deals with dictators who support terrorists?

"America has never paid any attention to other people, so it's absurd for Bush to say that it's all in the best interests of the Iraqi people." -- Richard Gere

Yeah! Yeah! We never paid any attention to the Jews, or the French, or the Russians, or the Mexicans, or the Spanish, or the British, or the Kuwaitis, or the Bosnians, or anyone else! We are so totally all about isolationism.

"Have we gone to war yet? We f'ing deserve to get bombed. Bring it on." -- Chrissie Hynde.

By "we," do you mean you and the French, since that's where you're living? Because if that's the case, then I wholeheartedly agree with you.

"Melt their weapons, melt their hearts, melt their anger with love." -- Shirley MacLaine on her anti-terrorism policy.

'While they melt your skin with searing hot iron rods.' -- Iraqi Prisoners on the torture policy of Saddam and his thugs.

"This is a racist and imperialist war. The warmongers who stole the White House have hijacked a nation's grief and turned it into a perpetual war on any non-white country they choose to describe as terrorist." -- Woody Harrelson

'And right after I finish smoking this shirt made of hemp, I'm gonna go visit my convicted murderer father in prison and hire him to kill the President, as soon as I get out of rehab.<<<

Maybe they're right, too, eh?

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>>"Had McCain picked Christine Todd Whitmann, I would have come to the conclusion that he's serious about the economy and serious about the environment.... or just plain serious period."<<

Don't leave out that just about the last thing we heard publically from Whitman was that the air in NYC right after 9/11 was 'OKily-dOKily'. Or was she not being serious there?

All of those other actors being wrong/crazy doesn't mean that Matt Damon is also.

Oh noess1!!!11 Whitmann said one dumb thing! Can we start counting Palin's dumb statements?

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Had McCain picked Christine Todd Whitmann, I would have come to the conclusion that he's serious about the economy and serious about the environment.... or just plain serious period.

Whitmann is an environmentalist former two term NJ Governor who cut taxes and balanced the state budget. The then was head of the EPA.

+1. Yes, Whitman would have been a credible, rational choice. Palin represents the lunatic fringe.

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"If nothing else, McCain wouldn't have been subjected to all this ridicule."

Ridicule from the far left... OMG I bet he is sooo scurred. :rolleyes:

I am not far left and I'm ridiculing him for it. There are Republicans who don't approve of his pick.

The point is, had he picked a more worthy VP of either gender, he would not be subjected to this now. Off the top of my head, Whittman would have made a decent choice if he wanted a woman VP. Half of the criticism would melt away because few could argue with her credentials and only her policies would be left.

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I wanna go in DEEP on some of you right now, but you're doing an extremely good job of showing how you really are, so I'm just gonna sit back and let you fall into the trap and hang yourselves.

All I'm gonna say is this: With the fear and suspicion I hear in the people's thoughts these days, America is finished.

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I wanna go in DEEP on some of you right now, but you're doing an extremely good job of showing how you really are, so I'm just gonna sit back and let you fall into the trap and hang yourselves.

The f@#k is that supposed to mean? Frankly, it's really telling that the majority of your recent posts are caustic and/or threatening. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. These threads are in good humor, and nobody should be taking them seriously to the point of getting pissy.

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The f@#k is that supposed to mean? Frankly, it's really telling that the majority of your recent posts are caustic and/or threatening. If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the kitchen. These threads are in good humor, and nobody should be taking them seriously to the point of getting pissy.

Let's just say we see this through different eyes.

And I'm gonna continue to maintain that talk of things like politics and religion is simply not a place to go on a board that should stay humorous and fun.

Trust, I have very strong views on those topics, and I could go real hard, but I also know better to understand this isn't the place for them, just like this isn't the place to talk our tastes in porn. I'm not here to polarize the climate.

So, please, Croc. Relax. I'm here to have my opinion just like you are.

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