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What Cruze variants would you like to see?

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What Chevy Cruze variants would you like to see?

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The sedan. What a practical bodystyle... but exciting? No way. And with a smaller GM, it seems a no-brainer that they should be doing more with fewer nameplates. So far, all we've seen of the Chevrolet Cruze is a practical sedan. zzzzzz....

What worked in the past could work again: a selection of bodystyles and trim levels in the Cruze lineup is needed to cover the market and help the car generate big buzz. Coupe, hatchback, sedan, convertible and wagon variations were all available on its ancestor, the workhorse Cavalier, and that was when there were J-bodies at every division of GM.

It's what we need today... choices. And it should be easier for GM to justify multiple bodystyles for the Cruze, since there will only be two divisions (that I know of) selling the platform here in the USA.

So how about it, Chevy? What better way to blanket the small car market than with multiple bodystyles of your upcoming mass consumption compact?

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Agreed.

It is a winning strategy, and not only for the Cruze.

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A return to choice is what is needed, something for every budget and every buyer with every model. That's one way to keep convincing buyers to buy your product.

It's cliche, but take Apple for example. iPods not only come in different models (shuffle, nano, Classic, and Touch) but those different models have submodels with different gigs (2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 120, etc.) so that each model can appeal to a different buyer with a different budget and different demands.

Telling the market what it should buy is, to put it simply, wrong.

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While I tend toward the sporty side of the market (I envision a Cruze 2.0 turbo SS coupe/convertible with six speed manual), "green" variants should be part of the plan, as well, for people who believe the sky is falling. We've got to please everyone with this car... it's a Chevrolet tradition.

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True.

But multiple bodystyles would reel in more buyers than either performance options or "green" options.

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The first thing I want to see it the first model Cruze be the best in class before they start to clone it into other styles. If you can't get the 4 doors sedan to be the best they need to make it right before you go any farther.

Right now we may get some of what they have already in Europe. If it is not sold somewhere else it will not be here. A two door hatch that is stylish like the Astra with a good strong performance package like the Cobalt. They need to find a way to make a Hatch sell as the Cobalt trunk is a waste of time.

The SS label is going to stay and no better car to hold this would be a strong 300 HP Turbo coupe.

As in how many models? If GM does not offer it else where then we will not get it here in the Cruze. They will not just do a car for here only.

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Coupe, wagon, and an SS version of all three would be sweet.

The first thing I want to see it the first model Cruze be the best in class before they start to clone it into other styles. If you can't get the 4 doors sedan to be the best they need to make it right before you go any farther.

This.

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Well, the car has been on the market for quite a while elsewhere. Bodystyles should not have anything to do with reliability... reliability and quality should be intrinsic parts of the mechanical, body hardware and electrical systems, parts of the car shared among all the bodystyles.

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Chevrolet Cruze SS

2.0 DI VVT Turbo

Honeywell-Garrett GT2259RS dual scroll turbo

Air-to-water aftercooler

86 mm (bore) x 86 mm (stroke)

10.2:1 compression

11.8 psi maximum boost

91 Octane

270 bhp @ 6300 rpm (est)

228 lb-ft @ 2200~6000 rpm (est)

Just a Cruze with an evolution of the current LNF engine with the objective of REDUCING but flattening maximum torque and reducing turbo lag. This is done by increasing compression, reducing boost pressures and using a small volume air-to-water aftercooler. Reducing maximum torque is actually good for a FWD car because it mitigates torque steer. In addition, the high-compression, lower boost setup is beneficial to cruise and part throttle fuel economy.

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Well Dwight I thought the reviews have indicated good control of torque steer on the current car. I have only driven an HHR SS with automatic, though, not a Cobalt turbo with manual. The HHR had a hint of torque steer.

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I agree with the bodystyle thing. Would love to own another GM car, need a small fuel efficient car, but 'blu is right, the basid sedan bodystyle is about as apealing as a tetnus shot.

Chris

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Well, the car has been on the market for quite a while elsewhere. Bodystyles should not have anything to do with reliability... reliability and quality should be intrinsic parts of the mechanical, body hardware and electrical systems, parts of the car shared among all the bodystyles.

I mean more than reliability or quality. I mean to take a Sedan and hold it up to the best of any company and it come out as the best sedan in all areas. As of what I have read reviews are good but still not class leading.

If the car needs more to make it class leading in handling, comfort, ride, power etc than I would first like to see this addressed and then the other work to make it into other versions then take place. Just being good and better than a Cobalt is not enough.

A car like this as best in class would pave the way to regain the trust. Besides the sedan will be 2/3 of the sales anyway. Get that one right the rest will follow.

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Pretty much every body style the 80s J cars had...

With some trim choices too...

The first thing I want to see it the first model Cruze be the best in class before they start to clone it into other styles. If you can't get the 4 doors sedan to be the best they need to make it right before you go any farther.

Right now we may get some of what they have already in Europe. If it is not sold somewhere else it will not be here. A two door hatch that is stylish like the Astra with a good strong performance package like the Cobalt. They need to find a way to make a Hatch sell as the Cobalt trunk is a waste of time.

The SS label is going to stay and no better car to hold this would be a strong 300 HP Turbo coupe.

As in how many models? If GM does not offer it else where then we will not get it here in the Cruze. They will not just do a car for here only.

True...

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Chevrolet Cruze SS

2.0 DI VVT Turbo

Honeywell-Garrett GT2259RS dual scroll turbo

Air-to-water aftercooler

86 mm (bore) x 86 mm (stroke)

10.2:1 compression

11.8 psi maximum boost

91 Octane

270 bhp @ 6300 rpm (est)

228 lb-ft @ 2200~6000 rpm (est)

Just a Cruze with an evolution of the current LNF engine with the objective of REDUCING but flattening maximum torque and reducing turbo lag. This is done by increasing compression, reducing boost pressures and using a small volume air-to-water aftercooler. Reducing maximum torque is actually good for a FWD car because it mitigates torque steer. In addition, the high-compression, lower boost setup is beneficial to cruise and part throttle fuel economy.

Do you know anything about this? I have had this info for a while but never could learn much about it.

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I got this about a year and a half ago and a lot has happend since then. I have never heard anymore about this engine. I was hoping it would find its way into some of the other new cars that are coming. I do not expect it in the Cobalt or HHR SS since both die next year. As for the Kappa's we already know they will not get them for sure.

If I recall this info was posted here as well as another place where I found this.

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Do you know anything about this? I have had this info for a while but never could learn much about it.

lnydatast6.gif

I got this about a year and a half ago and a lot has happend since then. I have never heard anymore about this engine. I was hoping it would find its way into some of the other new cars that are coming. I do not expect it in the Cobalt or HHR SS since both die next year. As for the Kappa's we already know they will not get them for sure.

If I recall this info was posted here as well as another place where I found this.

I was just looking this over and the torque looks a little lite at 275 lb-ft. The Ecotec witht he turbo upgrade is 315 lb-ft in fwd and the Solstice was seeing 340 lb-ft with the 5 speed.

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I agree with the bodystyle thing. Would love to own another GM car, need a small fuel efficient car, but 'blu is right, the basid sedan bodystyle is about as apealing as a tetnus shot.

Chris

oddly enough, that problem would be cured by a 3 door or 5 door buick astra hatchback.

cruze while i like it, has all the AURA of a Kia Forte to me. No surprise. this must be how Koreans are doing cars these days. the styling of the cruze does not have 'it' that will allow it to dominate the sales charts.

At least the Regal will be there to help me mourn no astra hatch in the US. PCS still hasn't set up that nice steak dinner for me with Susan and MISTER Lutz yet.

by the way, turbo, also please. like loi said.

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WANT COUPE!

Crucial in this segment!

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Toyota/Scion and Honda have not abandoned the compact coupe. Kia just entered the market with a brand-new coupe, and there have been plenty of Cobalt coupes sold. There is simply no way they can abandon the coupe market.

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Toyota/Scion and Honda have not abandoned the compact coupe. Kia just entered the market with a brand-new coupe, and there have been plenty of Cobalt coupes sold. There is simply no way they can abandon the coupe market.

Exactly.

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I'd settle for an estate and a fastback.

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I remember somewhere GM had mentioned that there will be a coupe version of Cruze for North America. The coupe take rate in retail is about 50% of Cobalt's sales. So if GM wants to retain the base, there will be a coupe.

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I wonder what the chances of a hatch....

I would really like a wagon....

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A two-door hatch with the look of a coupe (separate deck line, not just a wedge) might work.

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A two-door hatch with the look of a coupe (separate deck line, not just a wedge) might work.

Gotta have 4 doors too...

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Gotta have 4 doors too...

I am not a fan of the 4 door hatch but there seems to be a growing market for them. the Mazda 3 has shown that. With the car being sold else where it would permit it to be made here and not have to carry the burden of having to sell in large numbers.

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