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GTO discontinued?

Do you think the GTO will Return  

  1. 1. Do you think the GTO will Return

    • Never
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    • Yes as a 2 door
      10
    • Yes as a 4 door coupe
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    • Yes as a trim of another model
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    • Return is possibly in a few years but not likely
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Early this month, we reported that GM would not build another GTO after the current generation is discontinued. Today, Automotive News is reporting that the end of the line for the GTO is very near. GM will produce 10,000 to 12,000 more GTOs before dropping the nameplate, according to the report. A Pontiac spokesperson confirmed that the GTO will be discontinued late this year, with the last deliveries to dealers taking place in September.

SOURCE: LEFTLANENEWS.COM

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old news. Currently, there is a plan to bring back a RWD Pontiac that might carry the GTO name as some kind of large Zeta quad coupe, but such plans are very fluid and likely to change.

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Damnit... why does GTO have to die for Camaro to live???? WTF! :angry:

I mean at one time we had like two dozen muscle RWD cars/pony cars/personal luxury coupes from GM all at the same time:

Camaro

Nova

Chevelle

Impala SS (Biscayne, Bel Air, Caprice Classic)

Monte Carlo

Firebird/TA

Ventura

LeMans/Tempest/GTO

Grand Prix

Skylark

GS/GSX

Riviera

Cutlass/F85

442

Delta 88

Ninety Eight

Coupe DeVille

...and I'm sure I forgot a couple

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Damnit... why does GTO have to die for Camaro to live???? WTF! :angry:

I mean at one time we had like two dozen muscle RWD cars/pony cars/personal luxury coupes from GM all at the same time:

Camaro

Nova

Chevelle

Impala SS (Biscayne, Bel Air, Caprice Classic)

Monte Carlo

Firebird/TA

Ventura

LeMans/Tempest/GTO

Grand Prix

Skylark

GS/GSX

Riviera

Cutlass/F85

442

Delta 88

Ninety Eight

Coupe DeVille

...and I'm sure I forgot a couple

Well, at one time, we had everything but the Toronado and Eldorado with RWD.

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Damnit... why does GTO have to die for Camaro to live???? WTF! :angry:

I mean at one time we had like two dozen muscle RWD cars/pony cars/personal luxury coupes from GM all at the same time:

Camaro

Nova

Chevelle

Impala SS (Biscayne, Bel Air, Caprice Classic)

Monte Carlo

Firebird/TA

Ventura

LeMans/Tempest/GTO

Grand Prix

Skylark

GS/GSX

Riviera

Cutlass/F85

442

Delta 88

Ninety Eight

Coupe DeVille

...and I'm sure I forgot a couple

Well, if there was an actual buying demand...that might help.

Actually, even a little more advertising would help to get that...

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Umm, GTO's been known to end at 2006 for awhile now. The best bet, however, is that it's coming back in '09 or '10 under a complete redesign and redefining GTO.

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I think you're onto something, caddycruiser. Pontiac marketing has all but forgotten the GTO, and has failed to recognize the fact that the ones out now are wven better than the ones that were available when they were advertising the car.

My gut feeling (based on no facts whatsoever): There will be another GTO, probably after a brief hiatus. Pontiac's lineup looks too weak without it. After it and the GP go away, we'll be stuck with a 240hp G6 as Pontiac's flagship vehicle. That won't cut it for a performance division.

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Contrary to what some young people think, not all pre 1973 RWD cars were 'muscle cars'.

Example: Most big Chevys were not Impala SS's, and had 2 barrel carbed v8's. Same with Chevelles. And no way was the Olds 98 a 'muscle car', either.

A true 'muscle car' is a special edition coupe with engines around 400CI up. Don't change Car History facts.

The Aussie GTO was a Lutz dream car, eager to please the buffs who demanded that GM bring over the Monaro. Now look?

Edited by Chicagoland

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I guess what happened to the GTO is that there were just way too many manufacturing complexities that were not taken into consideration.

Would the batch of destroyed GTOs a while ago be expected?

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I think you're onto something, caddycruiser. Pontiac marketing has all but forgotten the GTO, and has failed to recognize the fact that the ones out now are wven better than the ones that were available when they were advertising the car.

My gut feeling (based on no facts whatsoever): There will be another GTO, probably after a brief hiatus. Pontiac's lineup looks too weak without it. After it and the GP go away, we'll be stuck with a 240hp G6 as Pontiac's flagship vehicle. That won't cut it for a performance division.

Exactly. It reminds me a lot of the Bonneville, actually, except the car itself is actually outstanding. There were one or two pretty pathetic ads, then....chirp...chirp.....nothing....and most people, except for those who really keep up with the automotive world, don't even know the car exists.

There's been a show running randomly on Speed TV about the GTO, mainly from its first days, and a past marketing person for Pontiac "back in the day" gave a great suggestion for an ad that had the GTO up against a BMW 3-series....too bad no one at Pontiac seemed to car about doing anymore than showing it in a garage beside a Bonneville and Grand Prix (remember that one? :blink: )

But, as has been said before, the design is aging, even though we in the US only were around for the second half of its life, and was destined to die anyway.

NOW...if GM could just figure out a way to give that level of body integrity and interior quality to the rest of the cars they make. They want import buyers to seriously consider their cars? That would be a BIG start...

Edited by caddycruiser

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Let's just suppose that the GTO wasn't a stand alone model anymore and therefore is believed to be gone from the automotive landscape but a new RWD sedan and coupe were coming for Pontiac. Sneaking the GTO back in as the all out performance sub-model of the new coupe would be no big deal now would it? :AH-HA_wink:

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Contrary to what some young people think, not all pre 1973 RWD cars were 'muscle cars'.

Example: Most big Chevys were not Impala SS's, and had 2 barrel carbed v8's. Same with Chevelles. And no way was the Olds 98 a 'muscle car', either.

A true 'muscle car' is a special edition coupe with engines around 400CI up. Don't change Car History facts.

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Actually, I think displacement had to be over 318 cu. in. or something like that. I know the SS396 edition of the Chevelle and [insert Chevy-Branded Muscle Car Here] were considered muscle cars and still are. Although I think the 396 actually displaced about 402 cu. in.

And, no, the 98 was never a muscle car. Just an American luxury sedan with an 'effing big engine.

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Well, at one time, we had everything but the Toronado and Eldorado with RWD.

Exactly my point.

Chicagoland Posted Today, 04:50 PM

Contrary to what some young people think, not all pre 1973 RWD cars were 'muscle cars'.

Notice in my original post I said muscle cars, pony cars & personal luxury coupes. I never called the Olds 98 a musle car, but a 2door was certainly a personl luxury coupe.

I think & hope (in my heart) that Camino is 100% correct. I've been saying prettty muhc the same thing and I think it's more than possible but probable.

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The present GTO was going to end no matter what.

Why would GM put a lot of money advetising a car that was selling is so few numbers when money is tight. Pontiac would put the money in the cars they are selling in greater volume like the G6 anf GP.

The present GTO was only a patch in the Pontiac line up by Lutz to buy time and to do it cheap and fast. The present GTO did it's job and if the new Mustang had not arrived when it did the GTO would have been even better recieved.

There are new Pontiacs coming that will hit as well as the new Camaro did. In the end everything will work out.

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Let's just suppose that the GTO wasn't a stand alone model anymore and therefore is believed to be gone from the automotive landscape but a new RWD sedan and coupe were coming for Pontiac. Sneaking the GTO back in as the all out performance sub-model of the new coupe would be no big deal now would it? :AH-HA_wink:

Thats what I think GM should do. How it is with the GTO now, would be like having a CTS-V, with no base CTS, or a Z06 with no base Corvette. Regardless of how great the cars are, they cant survive on their own.

And if its not a true coupe, dont call it GTO. Call it anything else, even Tempest, but not GTO.

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Well, the only Pontiac styling morsel on the whole car was the grille, and later, the hood scoops. Compelling design still sells cars... even with the world's best V8 engine under the hood, and everything it needed to back it up, performance-wise... the styling and compromises in engineering to bring the car to the US in a hurry sort of doomed it.

Thank you, Mr. Lutz for doing something to keep hope alive, seriously. The car did do that.

I am really counting on GM to bring back Pontiac with a vengance, and a clearer focus than we've seen in decades.

Long Live Pontiac!

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Well, the only Pontiac styling morsel on the whole car was the grille, and later, the hood scoops.  Compelling design still sells cars... even with the world's best V8 engine under the hood, and everything it needed to back it up, performance-wise... the styling and compromises in engineering to bring the car to the US in a hurry sort of doomed it.

Thank you, Mr. Lutz for doing something to keep hope alive, seriously.  The car did do that.

I am really counting on GM to bring back Pontiac with a vengance, and a clearer focus than we've seen in decades.

Long Live Pontiac!

I believe that that's exactly what we are going to get and GTO will be part of it.

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