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Not worried, It's a laptop with 2.2Ghz Core 2 Duo, 4GB Ram, 768MB dedicated ATI etc etc...

All 3 Calgary Saturn Dealers were owned by the same guy. Last fall 2/3 closed and moved their inventory to the remaining one. The third one closed during the summer.

I got Windows 7 Pro for 29.99 from my University. I'm still waiting for it to be shipped to my house but I'm thinking I'll hold off on installing it until maybe Easter so the bugs can be worked out of the OS first. I'm looking forward to virtual XP mode though.

Looks like it's gonna be a Baby LaCrosse with an Astra greenhouse.

IMO they should call the compact the Buick Special

So sorry to hear this DF, but I'm sure you'll be back on the right track soon.

Buick in 1938 I believe. My uncle insists that it was invented by somebody who lived in Shubenacadie, NS who presented his invention to GM in 1937 and was told that it was not something that would be useful on cars. The next model year they showed up on new Buicks a la that "Flash of Genius" movie.

If I plan to keep the car for 8-12 years and put 250+ thousand kms on it then why in the Sam Hill would I care about how GM vehicles depreciate over the first three years? I Don't Care about depreciation for this VERY REASON. Incidentally GXT, for your edification I like my Cobalt- and I wouldn't consider trading it for a candy ass Corolla. The Cobalt, like has been alluded to by others in this thread is by my own estimations, overbuilt. More power than a Corolla and rides like a much bigger car too. I've driven both the new Civic and the new Lancer and they are both tinny and inferior IMHO. Both ride like apple carts and the Lancer especially feels hollow. I wonder why it is that I simply don't like those "glorious" imports. I don't intend to purchase an Asian car, they do not wash with me.

Jeez that really sucks... I hope you get it sorted out and that it's not a rod.

I know what depreciation is, I'm not a moron. We've bought leaseback GM vehicles in 2006, 2007 and 2008 I have a general grasp of the residuals on GM vehicles. My 15'000$ down-payment would become a 4000$ down-payment if I bought a year old car. The number is simply for illustrating a down payment that could be applied to both cars at new in the context of my own scenario (hypothetical at this point). If what I want is available as a leaseback at a year old that's what I'll buy... I'm not stupid. I'm just trying to illustrate the differences here. The numbers aren't spot on they're rough and approximated, not including taxes, and whatnot for the sake of simplicity. I gave the Volt plenty of leeway to illustrate that it just doesn't work for me even in mildest of conditions.

The Economics of the Volt are compelling to me... but my interest in purchasing one would determine on gas prices. When I graduate from University in 2013 I intend to put down a 15'000$ down payment on a new car (as I have intended the Impala would be kept and garaged, its gas costs constant and therefore not a factor in this scenario). Assuming that MSRP on a topped out Cruze LT will be like 25k$ and the Volt will be about 45K$ before the 10K$ tax credit as promised by Stephen Harper and Ed Stelmach. According to statistical research done by my university I should expect to earn 62-68k$ right after I graduate within a 95% confidence interval. At that salary with a mortgage down-payment of 60-80k$ the only place I could afford to live in something bigger than a 900sqft apartment is outside the city limits. I currently put 7000mi on my car annually but this number will realistically be more like 15500mi when I'm out on my own (estimating a commute of 30mi each way, 70/30 hwy city split). I'm assuming paying exactly MSRP for both vehicles. 1. Gas where it is now (3.50/gallon) Cruze 1.4L LT AUTO Combined MPG 35.5MPG Miles Driven: 15'500 Annual Gas Cost: 1480$ Annual Finance Payment: 2364$ Monthly Gas Cost: 123.30$ Monthly Finance Payment: 197$ ANNUAL TOTAL- FINANCE + GAS: 3844$ Volt (assuming a battery range on the average commute of ONLY 20 MILES) Combined MPG: 34MPG Miles Driven: 15'500 Miles on Gas Engine: 3'500 Annual Gas Cost: 363.30$ Annual Finance Payment: 4560$ Monthly Gas Cost: 30.27$ Monthly Finance Payment: 380$ ANNUAL TOTAL- FINANCE + GAS: 4923.3$[/b][/u] ~ at current prices I would lose 1000$ a year for five years before the car would begin to pay for itself. Assuming 5000$ over the finance period and net 10000$ in price difference it would take almost fifteen years for the car to pay for itself, prohibitive because I would only likely keep it as long as the battery warranty (8 years). Advantage Cruze. 2. Gas where industry watchdogs speculate it will go by 2013 (7.50/gallon) Cruze 1.4L LT AUTO Combined MPG 35.5MPG Miles Driven: 15'500 Annual Gas Cost: 3171$ Annual Finance Payment: 2364$ Monthly Gas Cost: 246.66$ Monthly Finance Payment: 197$ ANNUAL TOTAL- FINANCE + GAS: 5528$ Volt (assuming a battery range on the average commute of ONLY 20 MILES) Combined MPG: 34MPG Miles Driven: 15'500 Miles on Gas Engine: 3'500 Annual Gas Cost: 778.50$ Annual Finance Payment: 4560$ Monthly Gas Cost: 30.27$ Monthly Finance Payment: 380$ ANNUAL TOTAL- FINANCE + GAS: 5420.50$ ~ at 7.50/gallon I would gain 100$ a year for five years. Assuming 500$ in gains over the finance period and net 10000$ loss in price difference it would take nine years for the car to pay for itself, prohibitive because I would only likely keep it as long as the battery warranty (8 years). Advantage Cruze. CONCLUSION: Unless gas hits 11-12 dollars per gallon the Cruze remains a more responsible, financially feasible purchase. The numbers look even worse for the Volt if I put it against a Cruze that was bought through an inventory reduction promotion, for less than MSRP, likely with 0% apr. It's a defeat akin to the Battle of Little Big Horn for the Volt if I were to compare it to a Cruze that was bought as a year old low mileage car that's already taken it's first-year depreciation hit and sells for 17000$. The only caveat is that the Volt over the eight years gives off less emissions than the Cruze. Since this is somewhat substantially offset a la Prius by the processes that must go into making the batteries, and because I generally don't believe Al Gore, I don't give a $h! about this point. *Disclaimer* I'm not saying that the Volt won't work for anybody at all, I'm just saying that in my reality it isn't really a better solution than what's already available.

Welcome to the site, make yourself at home! If memory serves the Z34 was the Lumina Sedan and Coupe until 1994 and from 1995-1999 the Monte Carlo

Seconded. When I drive in the Northwest US (once or twice a year) the roads are fine until I cross the Washington State line into Idaho and after I cross the Canadian border into British Columbia, but not inbetween.

Sounds like Cali pays about as much attention to the condition of its critical infrastructure as Quebec.

Looks good on my Cobalt...

Dark Blue, either flat or metallic

This is all kinds of cool!

The trunklid on the Impala was beginning to corrode but since it's 2.5yrs old they just warrantied it. Good Luck!

They offer it with the manual in China.

Hope you get Olds center caps for those Cav wheels.

I am betting it'll offer the 2.4L SIDI, 2.0L Turbo and 3.6L SIDI.

Stick with the Sunfire.

my aunt had a 2003 Liberty Limited 3.7 and it was a boatload of troubles. Over 60k miles almost everything worked itself loose and it needed a transmission. These SUVs also have very little in the ways of interior space and have a very high center of gravity (ie very rollover prone)

there is no such thing as fall weather in Calgary. Its currently 14 degrees Fahrenheit and snowing.

Way cool!