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    • Toyota has stated that it is cheaper to build AWD than to deal with FWD and AWD which I find interesting, but they have taken this AWD approach in China and Europe. So will be interesting to see what happens with the C-HR. I suspect as much as Idiot47 wants to kill the IRA plan, it would require the House and Senate to agree, and too many red states have billions invested in this for plants, jobs, etc. At this point I doubt the rebate will go away as much as 47 wants it too. GM gets that Bolt out at the $30,000 starting price for a FWD version and with the IRA instant rebate, it will end up selling well but then it will be going up against this as an AWD and a couple thousand dollars difference, I think many will go with AWD over FWD. As long as 47 is in office, China will not get into the U.S. market, but after 2028 all bets could be off.   Update: Thinking on this, Subaru version Solterra is AWD only, Toyota bZ is AWD, but will have a later release FWD version and now the C-HR is AWD to start. This makes it possible since all 3 EVs are built on the same platform to offer a cheaper FWD later as you stated @smk4565. So I am thinking they could have a mid $25,000 to $27,000 FWD version before the IRA rebate is applied giving a true cheaper and better equipped EV than Tesla and very competitive with GM Bolt. My one question is Tesla is falling behind by not moving the Y and 3 or the S and X to 800V systems, will GM or Toyota move to 800V on their entry level EVs or keep them 400V. I think 400V but far more feature rich than Tesla. Much like Kia EV3 is now a confirmed 400V feature rich Subcompact competing in this space already.
    • Agreed.  If this is $30k or even low $30s, and maybe a FWD only follows later for $29,995 this pretty much kills Tesla's sub $30k model they hyped up but will never come out.  Especially if GM brings back a Chevy Bolt for $30k.   Although if the tax credit goes away next year, then the CHR at $32,500 is way less appealing than $25,000.  And if they do take the tax credit away, I wonder how long before the low cost Chinese EV's show up and just take over the market.
    • I'm glad you like the color combo like I do.  Plus, it's two-tone inside.  It was a welcomed difference. I'd prefer the larger displacement and the 6 speed automatic.  I don't need 9 gears!   Also, the only thing I hate is the kink in the rear C-pillar moulding.  It looks like a fabrication mistake and could have so easily been designed out of the car.
    • Considering this is an entry level CUV for Toyota, I suspect the pricing on this will be low $30,000 to start which for the features will hit a sweet spot for Toyota. Be interesting to see how this does against the Koreans and U.S. auto companies.
    • Interesting read, but I have to disagree with the story that auto companies are going away from AA/AC as GM lost my business due to not embracing this and auto companies are so slow to update and keep their software current, so hard pass on this. Another reason why Rivian fell off our choice as we loved the auto, but the lack of AA/AC was a deal breaker for the wife. It required her to learn another new tech interface that she has no interest in doing, she already has everything setup the way she likes on her cell phone. I feel that GM is being used to make a blanket statement that all are going away from it when I am not seeing that. The Real Reason Automakers Are Ditching Apple CarPlay and Android Auto
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