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Toyota Tops GM in 1Q Global Auto Sales

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Ironic because GM has never sold so many vehicles as it did in the first quarter, 60% in overseas markets. GM could still revise their Q1 sales numbers in many markets.

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Ironic because GM has never sold so many vehicles as it did in the first quarter, 60% in overseas markets. GM could still revise their Q1 sales numbers in many markets.

I hope they don't. The US Media will have their field day, the import humpers will claim they said it was coming and long overdue. There may even be a final "GM Deathwatch." But in the end it really doesn't matter. If GM was more concerned w/ production numbers than Profit they could probably ratchet out more than enough vehicles to cover the increases by Toyota but it doesn't matter. Profit and the long term health of the brands/company are what is important and I am glad they see that.

Lets just see GM Execs say "Congrats, now can we move on?"

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Sad but not entirely unexpected. We have been told over and over again that this day is coming. I mean can you actually count the number of articles written in the last 3 years that Toyota will topple GM ? I wonder if the media has actually helped out Toyota in their quest for the global No.1 title ?

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how they did it for 76 years us a mystery to me, but it would be sweet to have the biggest car maker on there 100th anniversary.

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Who cares about the numbers, I don't. I forsee Toyota spinning out of control, there are already signs of this. They are concerned about their defects already, engine problems, the Tundra isn't setting the world on fire like they said it would either. And of course the Unions want in on Toyota. They are going to find out real fast that being #1 has more problems than they think. I mean once you get so big so fast its hard to maintain this "image" of being the "best" as everyone says they are. GM found out the hard way about being the biggest, but maybe Toyota will have lessons learned from this. But GM has some of their best products coming out and other ones on the burner so I feel they are poised to be moving on the up and up, and these products are in the car market right where they need them.

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meh

I'd rather focus on GM's record quarter, especially given the woes of recent and not so recent years rather then dwell on Toyota selling more

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"Our goal has never been to sell the most cars in the world," Nolasco said. "We simply want to be the best in quality. After that, sales will take care of themselves."

Somehow, I doubt this statement is true.

As for it actually happening, I don't care really. GM is improving and that's what counts, if Toyota is #1, fine.

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I am with Big Blue on this one. Who cares. GM was # 1 with bloated fleet sales and record poor resale values because of it. As far as the quality rap that GM has had over the years - I can say that NO GM PRODUCT EVER LEFT ANY MEMBER OF MY FAMILY ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN 30 + years!. My brother cannot say that about his Toyota.

We have seen the future on both sides: GM's quality is up, profits are up even with less units sold. Toyota's sales are up and recalls are at record levels. It sickens me to see so many Americans buying a Japanese car, but at least my Tahoe stands out on the road with all the me too Camry's.

Does anyone else sense the jubulation in the press while reporting this? Like it was them that toppled the giant that is GM? It seems like they are so happy to be saying that the largest American company has fallen to the Japanese. Well, now that Toyota is the # 1 automaker in the world, will the bullseye be placed on them - let's wait and see. :angry:

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Unimportant.

The margin was a mere 90k units worldwide, so I don't think Toyota is celebrating yet.

The test will be seeing if Toyota can maintain or expand this lead by the end of the year.

I think that the two companies will be neck and neck for some time to come.

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I hope they don't. The US Media will have their field day, the import humpers will claim they said it was coming and long overdue. There may even be a final "GM Deathwatch." But in the end it really doesn't matter. If GM was more concerned w/ production numbers than Profit they could probably ratchet out more than enough vehicles to cover the increases by Toyota but it doesn't matter. Profit and the long term health of the brands/company are what is important and I am glad they see that.

Lets just see GM Execs say "Congrats, now can we move on?"

The only problem with that is that GM is required by law to revise the numbers if a discrepancy is found.

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Does anyone else sense the jubulation in the press while reporting this? Like it was them that toppled the giant that is GM? It seems like they are so happy to be saying that the largest American company has fallen to the Japanese. Well, now that Toyota is the # 1 automaker in the world, will the bullseye be placed on them - let's wait and see. :angry:

I agree, the two articles I read today had the same feeling. I just can't believe how excited one of the author was. :huh:

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Wouldn't it be amusing if GM actually gave up the North American market? Since 60% of GM's sales are now from outside the U.S., and Japan Inc. (courtesy of MITI) is in the final phase of its assault on the 17+ million market here, wouldn't it be funny if GM just gave up and let Japan's Big 5 fight over the carcass? What is more sad is that America's own Big 2.5 can't sell in their own country what Japan's Big 5 can.

GM is doing well in South America, China and Europe. Why is that? How long will Detroit treat us like North America is different? This is not 1965. And Washington had better wake up, too, as well as the media because Japan Inc. will not relent until Detroit is smoking ash.

Japan is a tiny island with virtually no natural resources of its own and not too many original ideas, but they are focused and their populace stands behind their government like sheep while their companies assault Fortress America (and by default, Canada) from one market to another.

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I sense from a lot of the articles I saw in Business Week/ AP / Reuters, etc, that the Japanese analysts working for some of the large investment banks were extremely arrogant about how Toyota has a great reputation and GM doesn't. The old "GM has a reputation for poor quality and it's only getting weaker/worse" argument. That *REALLY* bugs me for some reason. Makes me hope that Toyota totally flops with their new Tundra. It does seem true that that US media likes to play on that too. But that's what sells I guess - extreme articles that play into trendy thinking. Oh well.

GM doesn't play it right though. I don't think their marketing is aggressive enough here in the US. They need to talk about how many models they have that are built here, etc, before people begin to really think that GM outsources everything. And believe me, a lot of people will, especially if they read a lot of the press that tends to spin the news in Toyota's favor. I notice they tend to talk about Toyota opening factories in North America, and GM closing them, but they never follow up by saying that GM still has 5 times as many factories in North America, even after the closing. The problem is - GM never says that either! They really need to stress that - big time.

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This is a very sad day. I knew once I added up the sales for the first 1/4 of 2007 I knew they were screwed. Big deal off by 100K. Toyota doesn't even want the problems and crud GM got for being nu. 1. Sad day... But oh the bright side it might not hold long. Still 3 quaters remain with some strong new product. When will the 08 Malibu come out? (NOT SOON ENOUGH!) And uhh Tundra sales have been slow, what put Toyota over was the Camry/Corolla sales to Avis and Hertz. :alcoholic:

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It seems like Toy and Japanese Co. in general have found a new tag line. The quality of cars manufactured by them in Japan are better than ones produced here. Import humpers are buying into this. Toy used to boast of having quality regardless of their location, I guess they found an excuse here.

Coming back to the subject, I really do not care for GM losing the #1 spot, so as long we have a strong bottom line. The products in the pipeline look good. Good to see GM concentrating on reducing the fleets. With GM removing its stake from fleets, I see a lot of Toys, especially the Crapollas in their.

However, GM needs aggressive marketing. They need to be more daring and slap back at the Japanese co.

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As long as GM still makes cars that are more desirable to me I could care less what someone on the other side of the world is buying. It would be nice to be #1 in the world, but it's not the biggest deal.

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Northie makes a good point. If they become profitable and make excellent cars and that sell on merits and not rebates who cares if they are nu. 2? I would like to see them stay on top it is 1/4 of the year wait till the new Enclave, new Malibu and HD GMT-900's get out and in stock on dealers lots. (I know they are out but not well stocked! My local dealer sold 4 just like that!) When is the Aura Hybrid coming? That will hurt the Camry Hybrid I think, because of the PRICE!

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As long as GM still makes cars that are more desirable to me I could care less what someone on the other side of the world is buying. It would be nice to be #1 in the world, but it's not the biggest deal.

The smartest comment on this post. You are a GM fan because you like what they make, and they appeal to your tastes. The other people here seem to be throwing personal political opinions instead of the love for the cars.

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I wish the two could be separated, but it is naive to believe that there is not some sort of assault on the North American market. The Japanese Big 5 don't have near the market presence anywhere else in the world that they do here in North America. Why is that? Is it because the North American market is (was?) more homegenous and, therefore, easier for Japan Inc to attack? After all, Europe is also a big market, but until recently was fragmented into dozens of smaller pieces. Now, suddenly Japan Inc is interested in Fortress Europe, but the Europeans are far more skeptical of everything imported.

Or we can just be lazy and take everything we read at face value and continue shipping our money overseas.

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I think throwing in passion and your love for something is okay. Check my sig, would I have purchased so many GM vehicles if I didn't like or believe in their product? $h! no, seriously there products appeal to me and I am biased but care very deeply about them, so what is wrong with that? So honestly I think a combo of both is a good thing. I really do like what they make, would I have ever purchassed 8 soon to be 9 with-in a year if I didn't like them? Not me, I buy what I like and it happens to General Motors products... GM you can do it, kick so Toyo a$$!

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Some of these opionions remind me of what my grandparents keep telling me, "Japan said after WWII that they would take us over without firing a single shot"

Could this be from the industry?

Rather interesting to think about.

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I think throwing in passion and your love for something is okay. Check my sig, would I have purchased so many GM vehicles if I didn't like or believe in their product? $h! no, seriously there products appeal to me and I am biased but care very deeply about them, so what is wrong with that? So honestly I think a combo of both is a good thing. I really do like what they make, would I have ever purchassed 8 soon to be 9 with-in a year if I didn't like them? Not me, I buy what I like and it happens to General Motors products... GM you can do it, kick so Toyo a$$!

Amen, brother! One day, my sig will be as long as yours! :thumbsup:

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Toyota has grown at an alarming rate. In the last few years its passed DaimlerChrysler and Ford and now its GM's turn.

Toyota's goal was to overtake the American auto industry...they may have failed to put any of the Big Three out of business, they've essentially completed their goal. Now what?

Any company...ANY...will be scrambling to cover all their ground after such explosive growth and something in their operations is liable to give, causing problems. Toyota's become disgustingly arrogant, the quality of their vehicles is slipping...we're even seeing the beginning of some anti-Toyota sentiment.

If this is how they're acting after being number one for only a few months, just imagine how complacent they'll get in a few years. Personally, I'm hoping to see Toyota get like GM got in the 80's, just to watch them crumble and fall.

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