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"Lucerne ready to do battle in luxury field"

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Im glad he feels that way but it reads mostly as a GM sourced press clipping. Edited by Ultra Magnus
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Nothing wrong with that. Any good media no matter how "fake" it may seem, is still good media.
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Dont get me wrong, I like the car. Add a six speed and its really ready to fight lexus. But I think its time that we read and actual test drive instead of someone reading the info and telling us what we know.
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He was far less critical than most will be. But Buick needs articles like this for people who normally look over Buick to look twice.
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This car doesn't stand a chance against any Lexus or import. It looks like a Chevy, has the dashboard of a Chevy, it has 4 speeds and a dated, weak V-6, and has less passenger and cargo room than either predecessor and some actual competitors.
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This car doesn't stand a chance against any Lexus or import. It looks like a Chevy, has the dashboard of a Chevy, it has 4 speeds and a dated, weak V-6, and has less passenger and cargo room than either predecessor and some actual competitors.

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I can understand why you may not like it, but I seriously suggest sitting in it and trying it out before thinking it'll be a complete failure. The interior space is more than enough & so is the trunk. Not everyone shopping in the large car market is looking for the "largest" vehicle out there. Besides, against imports (Avalon) & Lexus (ES330), the Lucerne's trunk is still larger.

I don't see LeSabre or Park Avenue owners left wanting from their previous car compared to the new Lucerne. I know I'm not. In pics, the Impala & Lucerne's dash may look similar, but the Lucerne's interior is far better executed and more upscale in person.
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it has 4 speeds and a dated, weak V-6,


only if you buy the models that cost less then a Lexus. Hit 30k and you're into Northstar territory. 4-speed or not, a northstar Lucerne will cream an ES330. The 4-speed v. 5-speed isn't as much an issue in this class as long as the transmission is smooth, trouble free, and efficent.

If the performance is similar or better with a 4-speed, yet you still have a problem with it, you need to look elseware for the source of your issues.
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This car doesn't stand a chance against any Lexus or import. It looks like a Chevy, has the dashboard of a Chevy, it has 4 speeds and a dated, weak V-6, and has less passenger and cargo room than either predecessor and some actual competitors.

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Photos and on paper specs don't do justice. Sit in a car before you criticize it. Things may look bad on paper, but actually works very well.
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If the performance is similar or better with a 4-speed, yet you still have a problem with it, you need to look elseware for the source of your issues.

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It's a bland Buick that won't get a second look from a non-GM knowledgable person.

Hate to say this, but I'd take the Lexus. Or even better, a Cadillac!

The Velite-like replacement can't come any sooner... <_< Edited by johnnyb
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I don't think it will set the market on fire, or even rejuvenate Buick the way they need it, but it will get some conquest sales and it will sell well. It is a NICE car, but it is not the breakthrough product Buick really needed. It will cater well to Buick's current audience, and will actually branch out and pick up some non-Buick fans, but not enough of those to justify its existence.
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I think this article is way too sugary sweet. This is no luxury car, near, near luxury maybe. Edited by HarleyEarl
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I think this article is way too sugary sweet.  This is no luxury car, near, near luxury maybe.

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Um...how is it not a luxury car?
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Um...how is it not a luxury car?

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A car with a 3.8L 195 HP pushrod V6 does not qualify as a luxuray car. It also brings down the value of the V8 powered versions. GM really goofed on this one. GM really really cannot afford more slipups like this.
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A car with a 3.8L 195 HP pushrod V6 does not qualify as a luxuray car. It also brings down the value of the V8 powered versions. GM really goofed on this one. GM really really cannot afford more slipups like this.

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so a luxuary car is based on hp?

I timed my friends 3 series bmw and got a 22 second 0-60...

that was a luxuary car...

it felt great, it felt fast, it handled great, but it was slow as hell...
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so a luxuary car is based on hp?

I timed my friends 3 series bmw and got a 22 second 0-60...

that was a luxuary car...

it felt great, it felt fast, it handled great, but it was slow as hell...

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ohh yea... I just bought an 02 Trans Am last week...

one of my coworker said i ought to have got a lexus...

I guess Horsepower isnt in his book...
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so a luxuary car is based on hp?

I timed my friends 3 series bmw and got a 22 second 0-60...

that was a luxuary car...

it felt great, it felt fast, it handled great, but it was slow as hell...

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0-60 in 22 seconds? :blink:
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A car with a 3.8L 195 HP pushrod V6 does not qualify as a luxuray car. It also brings down the value of the V8 powered versions. GM really goofed on this one. GM really really cannot afford more slipups like this.

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Uhm... The 2006 BMW 525 has 215 hp and starts at $42,500. Last year (yes 2004MY) It only had 184 hp.

Are you saying that a 2004 BMW 5-series with a 184hp I-6 isn't a luxury car? It was $42k without any options?


Horse power is not everything.
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The Lucerne is a beautiful car, but does it stand out enough to capture conquest buyers or does it just tide over current Buick owners? Quality rankings will help, and I'm sure this one like all Buicks will be at the top. But what about stand out passion you say? Lexus hasn't had that and it's worked. Why not Buick?
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Not impressed... really. When are we going to start seeing real test drives of the Lucerne? I would have thought reviewers would have had a chance to snag one by now.
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I am sure that the buick is going to have a tough time in reviews because of the competitors that it posses!
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so a luxuary car is based on hp?

I timed my friends 3 series bmw and got a 22 second 0-60...

that was a luxuary car...

it felt great, it felt fast, it handled great, but it was slow as hell...

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The BMW 3 series is a luxuary car in your opinion ? I don' think so. It is BMW's entry level sedan that appeals to people who cannot afford the 7 series but still wants to enjoy a Bimmer. Same thing with the LEXUS ES which is basically somewhat luxurious Camry. But the LUCERNE is suppose to be BUICK's top of the line flagship car. Do you know any other company that puts a sub 200 HP V6 engine in their flagship ? GM better correct this situation soon or very soon you will find LUCERNE selling at EMPLOYEE PRICING>
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Do you know any other company that puts a sub 200 HP V6 engine in their flagship ?

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Chrysler.
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Chrysler.

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:cheers:

Chrysler 300 - 2.7L V-6 190 HP
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