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GM Mulls AWD Cobalt

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"Cobalt: The 2006 model year is big for performance at Chevrolet, with the SS badge added to a wide range of high-horsepower vehicles. Cobalt SS coupe and sedan models feature a 171-hp, 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine as well as suspension and styling enhancements. A freshening is planned for the 2008 model year. GM is exploring an awd Cobalt variant that likely would be aimed at the Mitsubishi Evolution and Subaru WRX." -AutoWeek. I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I would believe it to be reasonably so. An all wheel drive Cobalt sure seems exciting!
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If GM does decide to make a EVO/STi fighter then they had better pay attention to what the competion has done and what system they have in place. There is a reason that these cars can ask their $30,000 price tags and still be called a "performance value". I mean GM has the potential as far as the engine is concerned as their Grand Am Cup and Drag racing efforts show. But developing a reliable AWD system that has the technological advancements of the EVO and theSTi, which have been groomed by the "take-no-prisoner" WRC circut, will be a great feat in itself. But if Gm would like to make a statement that the Cobalt is up to the standards of the hard pounding, completely abusive, and rigorous (check spelling) ins and outs of a proven WRC rally car then I say go ahead GM.
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Why not. Getting the basics from Subaru wouldn't be hard, and it really could help the Cobalt stand out. Though I think doing such a product with Saturn makes more sense. Especially considering the way Saturn wants to go.
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I think its a waste of resources as well. At least on a small car. I don't know why they hype over all wheel drive: costs more consumes more fuel costs more to fix Sure you can drop the clutch at 5K rpm and tak off like a sling shot but your drive line components will not last very long
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I think its a waste of resources as well. At least on a small car.

I don't know why they hype over all wheel drive:

costs more
consumes more fuel
costs more to fix

Sure you can drop the clutch at 5K rpm and tak off like a sling shot but your drive line components will not last very long

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I'm guessing you don't live in the NW where GM is hurting in sales. Subaru is queen around here and GM needs products that would appeal to people here. Adding an AWD small car line would be perfect.
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The STI/Evo segment is very small and the money and time spent to develop the AWD Cobalt will be a waste. It could be spent elsewhere. On Buick or Pontiac, perhaps? Got an idea: an AWD Pontiac that looks significantly different from the Cobalt/Persuit and offers awesome performance, all for about $25,000.
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I agree with regfootball and avro206-plus there's too little passenger room in Cobalt already, as all-wheel-drive would eat up more of the dinky passenger space Cobalt already has, and though the trunk is above-average (probably the only thing about the car other than engines and coupe rear styling that IS above-average), it would reduce it to like 10 cubic feet. And this Cobalt should be focused more on mainstream-market compact cars, and fuel economy. Give AWD to a Buick or Pontiac version, but leave it out of Cobalt, and leave it out of this generation period.
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The WRX has taken Subaru to a new level even for those that don't buy it. The Cobalt needs such a piece in it's product line to help it stand out from the rest of the crowd. The SS Supercharded, though great, is not powerful enough, or odd enough to stand out.
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If they up the HP on the Cobalt SS signifcantly to the 250-300 range, they'd need an AWD system to counteract the ridiculous amount of torque steer. With the Cobalt already beginning to carve itself a racing pedigree of its own, it'll be nice to see how it fares on the WRC circuit. Plus, there is an additional payoff in the form of a possible AWD HHR, which would proably make it the best budget SUV alternative out there.
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Give the Cobalt AWD a hi po V6 and call it Z24 (In the style of a Z06 cobalt). Go after the AWD hi po market and at the same time go after the market of Eclipses with the V6. Also I think a AWD HHR would appealing as well I'd love to see a performance variant of a HHR at least cause this thing is really starting to appeal to me..........
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I'm guessing you don't live in the NW where GM is hurting in sales.  Subaru is queen around here and GM needs products that would appeal to people here.  Adding an AWD small car line would be perfect.

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Precisely, there is a need for AWD in many parts of the US. It's a great
friend to have in snow and icy conditions.
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You guys are thinking way too North American, forgetting that the Delta is a world chassis. Surely this would come to great use in a WRC Astra, and the Cobalt would basically be using the same running gear. The AWD turbo Astra/Cobalt could be a cult classic also. But one would not want it come out with 300 horses if the Mitsu is up to 400. I miss Nissan and Ford being in this segment too.
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I think it would help alot. Even it doesnt sell that much, it could still bring alot of recognition to the whole Cobalt line. And I dont think AWD should be limited to only the 250+hp version, it should be available with the 170 and 205 hp versions as well. Then GM could offer a sport tuned suspension for the AWD models. I think it would put the Cobalt a step ahead of the Civic, Neon, and Focus and other compacts. GM needs to find a way to make it available on the G6 as well.
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I think it would help alot. Even it doesnt sell that much, it could still bring alot of recognition to the whole Cobalt line. And I dont think AWD should be limited to only the 250+hp version, it should be available with the 170 and 205 hp versions as well. Then GM could offer a sport tuned suspension for the AWD models. I think it would put the Cobalt a step ahead of the Civic, Neon, and Focus and other compacts. GM needs to find a way to make it available on the G6 as well.

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While that's a whole different chassis, that should definitely happen.

And I would love to see a G6 Turbo with a 2.8 HF. No one would laugh at the G6 then.
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Not in this generation Cobalt, I hope. The current one has too many faults that can bring an otherwise strong performer down. Plus, there's already an SS Supercharged version. Maybe the next...
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I think GM should definetly develop AWD for the whole Delta line. A Cobalt with AWD and a turbo 275hp Ecotec would kick ass.

However, I think the biggest advantage to have AWD Delta would be on the HHR. I'm sure lots of people would like to have AWD on it.

Not in this generation Cobalt, I hope. The current one has too many faults that can bring an otherwise strong performer down. Plus, there's already an SS Supercharged version. Maybe the next...


That's a lame excuse for not giving it AWD. Just because it's not the best at everything doesn't mean it can't be one of the few compact cars to offer AWD.
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It's about time GM seriously considers this. Think about it, the ultra high performance Z06, and ultra high performance Z28 and an ultra high performance Zxx from the Cobalt line, all in coupe form. Then we can call the sedan version something else. I think GM should bring this to market as fast as possible, for sales but more importantly image. It would do good for Chevrolet, Pontiac or even Saturn.
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That's a lame excuse for not giving it AWD. Just because it's not the best at everything doesn't mean it can't be one of the few compact cars to offer AWD.


I agree. With AWD, it can be a player and if executed correctly, will add credibility to the line.
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What's wrong with the current edition Delta? No magazine has complained about the chassis or it's possible dynamics. They just want a nicer interior / exterior design with more power.
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What's wrong with the current edition Delta?  No magazine has complained about the chassis or it's possible dynamics.  They just want a nicer interior / exterior design with more power.

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It'll be dated by the time the AWD version comes out, IMO. It makes more sense to develop the next-gen Cobalt with that in mind rather than spending all that time and money on a car that'll be 3-4 years old.
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It'll be dated by the time the AWD version comes out, IMO. It makes more sense to develop the next-gen Cobalt with that in mind rather than spending all that time and money on a car that'll be 3-4 years old.

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Yeah I agree

PLUS if anyone should have AWD it should be Pontiacs and Saturns first.
(and of course saaaaabs)
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It'll be dated by the time the AWD version comes out, IMO. It makes more sense to develop the next-gen Cobalt with that in mind rather than spending all that time and money on a car that'll be 3-4 years old.

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That, and it trails nearly every single competitor in passenger room, particularly the rear.
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