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Dealer on new Malibu:"It's going to be a home run"

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Northstar    11

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The Chevrolet dealers who gathered Sept. 19 in a ballroom of the Venetian hotel and casino in Las Vegas for General Motors Corp.'s annual dealers meeting held their breath as the cover was pulled off a new car amid a light show and thumping music.

At first, dealers were baffled by the upscale-looking sedan on the stage, and then pleasantly surprised to find out it was the 2008 Malibu, Chevy's entry level sedan that typically starts at less than $20,000.

"It was a stunner. Just a beautiful car," said Jim Quinlan, a Chevy dealer from Knoxville, Tenn. "Nobody could figure out what it was at first. It looks like it would cost $35,000 to $40,000."

Chevy spokesman Terry Rhadigan said dealer reaction has been overwhelmingly positive.

The new Malibu has not been shown publicly but could make its debut at the Detroit auto show next year or one of other major U.S. auto shows.

Quinlan can't wait to get the Malibu on his lot in the latter part of 2007. "It's going to be a home run," he said.

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loki    286

these seem so much like teaser articles... i'm sure lots of people can't wait, especially the media.

we know it'll have the 2.4L hybrid.... hopefully the other powertrains are great too

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Paolino    99

I really can't wait to see.

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T-Keith    0

I hope they do well with it, but I'm disapointed to see GM get rid of their smaller midsize cars. A malibu/G6 size car is great because you have room for four adults, but still have a compact narrow car. The Cobalt is too small for most people, the Grand Am/G6 and similar GM cars have always been segment bridging cars that attracted a lot of people and were always so much nicer then their smaller counterparts.

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pow    106

these seem so much like teaser articles...  i'm sure lots of people can't wait, especially the media.

we know it'll have the 2.4L hybrid.... hopefully the other powertrains are great too

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Hopefully it's a real hybrid, to take on the Camry.

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I hope for GM's sake, Malibu will be a home-run-the current Malibu is a pretty crummy car-it needs to be almiost perfect, spacious, and that trunk better be pushing at least 16 cubic feet, though 17 like the 1997-2005 model would be better. (2004-05 Classic, that is.) I'm waiting to see this car more than CTS, Enclave, Astra, or whatever else is coming for 2008.

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prototype66    0
Posted ImageFrom the pics i've seen and the word on the street, this will be a great product that will appeal to many different groups.I for one will be looking to buy one myself.It may not appeal to everyone but no one car does. I think it will be a touchdown! 8) Edited by prototype66

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Intrepidation    848

I don't believe it will be a home run... I do believe it will sell well, and much better than the current one...but it's not something that will do for Chevy what the 300C did for Chrysler. Why? Because while revolutionary for Chevy as a brand, it's not revolutionary for the segmen like the 300 was for it's segment. It's still FWD, will have 4 cylinders and V6's and a hybrid, 6-speed automatics, a nice shape, and hopefully a nice interior...but all that does is make the car competetive. I seriously doubt there's something segment-busting about it.

Granted, from what I have seen so far i really like the car, and it's garunteed to sell much better than the current POS...I just don't believe it'll be a home run like the 300C for Chrysler.

Edited by Dodgefan

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Chicagoland    2

Cars can have FWD and a 4 cylinder standard and be a 'home run'. But, it remains to be seen for real.

300C was a home run, but mostly in reviews, and it was only the top of the 300 line up. Now it is not really selling as hot its first year. Also, the 300c's 'aura' isn't offsetting all the unsold Dodge/Jeep SUV's. Or the unsold Magnums and Chargers. Heads are going to roll for the 'sales bank', for sure. So much for Chrysler being "the only Detroit makers who gets it"

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Cadillacfan    0

First of all, the current Malibu isn't a POS. It can be a lot better but it's still a good, dependable car. I know a lot of people who own it and love it.

Secondly, you can't predict that the Malibu won't rock the segment. The new Camry is selling like wildfire across the country and it certainly isn't anything special. It offers nothing new to the segment and it draws so many visual cues from it's competitors (especially Mazda) that it should've been anything but a hit.

They're hard to find in the capital district and even in Buffalo because they're selling so many of them. I know this because a cousin from the DC area is looking to buy one and they have no available there or here. The Greater Buffalo/Niagara region is Chevy territory and yet the Camry is still selling out. Why is that? Well, even though it's a Toyota, it still looks good to most people. We live in an age where brand loyalty is no longer a main reason to buy a new car. If a product looks good and upscale for a cheaper price, people will go for it. If Chevy can do that with the Malibu and offer all the same options when the new model comes out, it could do a lot of damage in the segment.

Hey, you may be right. But all the hints we've been given points to a certified hit for Chevy.

Edited by Cadillacfan

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sciguy_0504    0

Count me as having low expectations after the Aura. I know GM can do trucks and SUVs well but that has not transferred over to its cars. Plus, low expectations can lead to a big (positive) surprise.

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titan    0

I don't believe it will be a home run... I do believe it will sell well, and much better than the current one...but it's not something that will do for Chevy what the 300C did for Chrysler. Why? Because while revolutionary for Chevy as a brand, it's not revolutionary for the segmen like the 300 was for it's segment. It's still FWD, will have 4 cylinders and V6's and a hybrid, 6-speed automatics, a nice shape, and hopefully a nice interior...but all that does is make the car competetive. I seriously doubt there's something segment-busting about it.

Granted, from what I have seen so far i really like the car, and it's garunteed to sell much better than the current POS...I just don't believe it'll be a home run like the 300C for Chrysler.

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I see your point, and agree with most of it. Though the next Malibu won't shake the segment to it's core, it's seems that it will finally, finally be a true competitor to the bread and butter leaders of the segment. If it can finally put real dent in Camry's sales, then Chevy's got a success. The next Impala, from all the rumors and CGI's I've seen will be absolutely awesome. I think the Impala and Malibu will both draw customers into the showroom, and sales will feed off each other, and help elevate the entire lineup. In esscence, the Malibu WILL do for Chevy what the Fusion DIDN'T do for Ford... not say the Fusion's a sub-par product, because it's not. But it (nor the 500) were the saviors of Ford that Ford thought they would be.

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Northstar    11

I don't believe it will be a home run... I do believe it will sell well, and much better than the current one...but it's not something that will do for Chevy what the 300C did for Chrysler. Why? Because while revolutionary for Chevy as a brand, it's not revolutionary for the segmen like the 300 was for it's segment. It's still FWD, will have 4 cylinders and V6's and a hybrid, 6-speed automatics, a nice shape, and hopefully a nice interior...but all that does is make the car competetive. I seriously doubt there's something segment-busting about it.

Granted, from what I have seen so far i really like the car, and it's garunteed to sell much better than the current POS...I just don't believe it'll be a home run like the 300C for Chrysler.

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The only reason the 300 was so successful was because of the Hemi and styling, and I think most of it was styling. Not many cared that it was RWD. If the Malibu has knock-out and looks like a $30-40k car for $17k, then I see no reason why it won't be a home run.

Most cars in the segment fit your description of the Malibu. FWD, I4/V6, hybrid option, 6-speed auto. However, what most of them lack is standout styling, and certainly none of them offer knock-out styling. That will be the Malibu's ace in the hole if all the reports are true about its looks.

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ocnblu    777
I'm still not sure why people keep saying LX buyers "don't care" that the car is RWD. I have not seen documentation.

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Angry Dad    0

Count me as having low expectations after the Aura.  I know GM can do trucks and SUVs well but that has not transferred over to its cars.  Plus, low expectations can lead to a big (positive) surprise.

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Cripes, Toyota could put it's badge on a Yugo and you'd be here declaring it superior to a Ferrari.

The current Camry is a dud in styling following on the heels of a confusing at best Avalon and yet to be released but already declared failure Tundra. And yeah I've got insight on this one, the Malibu kicks the Camry in every direction styling wise. Just like the Aura has already done. Don't get it, read the others on this board that haven't blindly followed the orders from the great Kool-Aid dispenser.

Bottom line is GM has caught it's stride styling wise. Toyota still has it's shoelaces tied.

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regfootball    252

First of all, the current Malibu isn't a POS.  It can be a lot better but it's still a good, dependable car.  I know a lot of people who own it and love it.

Secondly, you can't predict that the Malibu won't rock the segment.  The new Camry is selling like wildfire across the country and it certainly isn't anything special.  It offers nothing new to the segment and it draws so many visual cues from it's competitors (especially Mazda) that it should've been anything but a hit.  

They're hard to find in the capital district and even in Buffalo because they're selling so many of them.  I know this because a cousin from the DC area is looking to buy one and they have no available there or here.  The Greater Buffalo/Niagara region is Chevy territory and yet the Camry is still selling out.  Why is that?  Well, even though it's a Toyota, it still looks good to most people.  We live in an age where brand loyalty is no longer a main reason to buy a new car.  If a product looks good and upscale for a cheaper price, people will go for it.  If Chevy can do that with the Malibu and offer all the same options when the new model comes out, it could do a lot of damage in the segment.

Hey, you may be right.  But all the hints we've been given points to a certified hit for Chevy.

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problem is the Camry in no way looks 'upscale'.

I'm still not sure why people keep saying LX buyers "don't care" that the car is RWD.  I have not seen documentation.

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those I know who have got a 300 bought it for the penis extender (or penis provider) factor more than anything. I can guarantee the two I know who got a 300 likely have no clue which wheels are doing the driving. The third person I know who looked at one but ultimately got a Town and Country instead, had a previous 300 and likely had no clue as well.

That said, I am sure some charger buyers are buying on RWD alone. Too bad they are getting a hellaciously ugly car on that RWD chassis.

Edited by regfootball

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Northstar    11

I'm still not sure why people keep saying LX buyers "don't care" that the car is RWD.  I have not seen documentation.

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I don't have documentation, but I do first-hand experience. One of my dad's co-worker's wife was looking at the 300, and they had test drove it and everything, and then when I asked her if she knew it was RWD, she said, "No, it is? I don't know if I want it then." So, obviously some dealerships are touting that it's RWD in order to sell it, or she would have known that already. Few people are going to be drawn into the showroom because a vehicle is FWD or RWD. They get drawn into the showroom because of styling.

Heck, someone asked me if the Solstice was FWD. Obviously they didn't like it because it was RWD, but because it's drop-dead gorgeous.

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Cadillacfan    0

problem is the Camry in no way looks 'upscale'.

That's your opinion. But many people I know who own it and like it (which is only a handfull) and the auto magazines (yeah, I know they're a little biased) have said it looks much more upscale to the previous model. I'd have to agree. Especially with it's high belt-line and stance of the vehicle. Now, upscale doesn't mean beautiful, but it's much better then the previous model.

If GM is going for the same approach with the new Malibu as Toyota did with the new Camry, it will do well. It looks like they are aiming directly at the Camry this time judging from the spy photos.

Edited by Cadillacfan

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turbo200    6

I don't have documentation, but I do first-hand experience. One of my dad's co-worker's wife was looking at the 300, and they had test drove it and everything, and then when I asked her if she knew it was RWD, she said, "No, it is? I don't know if I want it then." So, obviously some dealerships are touting that it's RWD in order to sell it, or she would have known that already. Few people are going to be drawn into the showroom because a vehicle is FWD or RWD. They get drawn into the showroom because of styling.

Heck, someone asked me if the Solstice was FWD. Obviously they didn't like it because it was RWD, but because it's drop-dead gorgeous.

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you're absolutely right. however, one massive argument in favor of RWD, and I know you're not making this a FWD v. RWD thing, I just want to defend the RWD camp and play the underdog....one massive argument in favor of RWD is that it is because of the setup of this type of chassis that can allow for such drop dead gorgeous looks and proportions. Additionally, RWD has a certain feel to it that many will find addicting and even, gasp, pleasureable, once they do give it a chance, that is why the solid road feel and neutral handling benefits of RWD can often sway the purchase, even if RWD was not a list of priorities on the buyers' list and even if they do not know they are buying a RWD car.

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turbo200    6

problem is the Camry in no way looks 'upscale'.

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you're wrong. bam snap crackle pop.

okay, the point of that little excersize was to show you that your opinion will not always be shared by others. it'll be better for the sake of discourse if you start thinking like that.

Camry is definitely an upscale looking car. Fish face aside, the shape is generally luxurious and Lexus-like, that's what most people, who are already import buyers and have been successfully converted and secluded and secured, like about it. It is anonymous, but it isn't cheap looking, that's for damn sure. Interior materials aren't a cut above though, Accord has it on Camry.

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turbo200    6

I don't believe it will be a home run... I do believe it will sell well, and much better than the current one...but it's not something that will do for Chevy what the 300C did for Chrysler. Why? Because while revolutionary for Chevy as a brand, it's not revolutionary for the segmen like the 300 was for it's segment. It's still FWD, will have 4 cylinders and V6's and a hybrid, 6-speed automatics, a nice shape, and hopefully a nice interior...but all that does is make the car competetive. I seriously doubt there's something segment-busting about it.

Granted, from what I have seen so far i really like the car, and it's garunteed to sell much better than the current POS...I just don't believe it'll be a home run like the 300C for Chrysler.

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cautious optimism is best, I'm in this camp. Dealers don't usually know stud from a loser.......but some of them can tell the difference, perhaps if they are multi-brand. I expect for it to be segment competitive, and it's looks to be killer, I hope this will be enough to ricochet the segment. I won't have expectations like that for a GM vehicle because they have yet to prove my faith is justified...except in concept form.

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ketch    0

While many who still consider American iron will consider this new version (me for example), I fear those turned off by bad experiences and even heresay about someone else's poor luck, will run away from this car. There is a whole generation that will never return to American cars, and thats at least sad, and at worst extremely niave and shortsighted. I just don't see how this car will out do the percieved value of a Camry or Accord to sway them, no matter how good it is.

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daves87rs    352

While many who still consider American iron will consider this new version (me for example), I fear those turned off by bad experiences and even heresay about someone else's poor luck, will run away from this car. There is a whole generation that will never return to American cars, and thats at least sad, and at worst extremely niave and shortsighted. I just don't see how this car will out do the percieved value of a Camry or Accord to sway them, no matter how good it is.

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Maybe for a few years...but I think that will change.

Even those who I know feel that way-a few are already breaking away..

One already traded his civic for a G5.

So times are changing...even if it is slowly...

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Croc    268

you're wrong. bam snap crackle pop.

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OK mr. rice krispies... :rolleyes:

okay, the point of that little excersize was to show you that your opinion will not always be shared by others. it'll be better for the sake of discourse if you start thinking like that.

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...and maybe reg doesn't share your opinion? don't tell him how to think...i think he's old enough to think for himself however he sees fit.

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