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Got this from a buddy of mine that works at GM. This was sent to GM exec's and they forwarded it to the employee's...

"Just hapened to get this in a E-mail today that was sent to a GM exec and forwarded around the company.

01/18/2007 01:09 PM

Hi Guys:

You probably heard that Michelle Krebs has joined our editorial team. (We are launching a new site that we will be announcing at the Chicago Auto Show that Michelle will be heading up…)

Anyway, she was on the West Coast this week and by happenstance was seated next to a Honda exec on her trip home. Michelle passed along his comments and I thought you might be interested in the following:

“He said Honda execs (including from Japan) were blown away by GM's new products, especially the Outlook, Acadia and Enclave. They are worried as hell. (Look at the consideration of the new Pilot vs. the Outlook in our data and they should be) He says even the next Pilot doesn't measure up to the current Outlook. Said no one in the industry is doing surfaces the way GM is and he's jealous because the Japanese refuse to even try.”

Obviously, consumer opinions are the ones that matter, but industry attention doesn’t hurt. J

Regards,

Jeremy P. Anwyl

President

Edmunds.com CarSpace.com InsideLine.com"

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Why is the president of Edmunds sending emails to GM execs?

What does she mean by "surfaces"?

I have an idea Edmonds stays fairly close contact with the manufacturers... but not sure other than that.

Surfaces is the exterior sheetmetal work. The untrained eye may not pick up on the flow of the sheetmelal but there are manufacturing limits to what can be done with it, and that depens on whether a peice of metal needs 1, 2 or 3 stages of stamping. Of couse the more stages, the more expensive to produce. That's about the best that I can explain it.

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Why is the president of Edmunds sending emails to GM execs?

What does she mean by "surfaces"?

I'm assuming she mean A-surfaces (appearance), mainly sheet metal, but plastic too.

Call me cynical, but I have a hard time buying this. Not because it isn't possible that Honda is scared of GM's new product. But that a Honda exec would actually tell somebody, especially an American reporter, or that the first we'd here about it is through a friend of a GM worker who had it forwarded to him from Execs who were told by the reporter, and not through the reporter's website itself.

If its true, great, but until there is some kind of verification, meh.

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“He said Honda execs (including from Japan) were blown away by GM's new products, especially the Outlook, Acadia and Enclave. They are worried as hell. (Look at the consideration of the new Pilot vs. the Outlook in our data and they should be) He says even the next Pilot doesn't measure up to the current Outlook. Said no one in the industry is doing surfaces the way GM is and he's jealous because the Japanese refuse to even try.”

lolol

I can't believe some of you believe this.

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If it is true - great! If not - who cares. I really could care less what Honda has to say when it comes to the automotive market, as find their products unexciting and do nothing to attract me to their showrooms.

I for one, cannot WAIT to buy my wife one of the new crossovers. As soon as her lease is up - there will be one in our driveway.

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I'll take this with a grain of salt.

It would be cool if that conversation actually happened, but i'm not so sure. :blink:

Either way GM is finally in a renaisance of sorts!

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Call me cynical, but I have a hard time buying this. Not because it isn't possible that Honda is scared of GM's new product. But that a Honda exec would actually tell somebody, especially an American reporter, or that the first we'd here about it is through a friend of a GM worker who had it forwarded to him from Execs who were told by the reporter, and not through the reporter's website itself.

If its true, great, but until there is some kind of verification, meh.

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This is just like a guy i work with said he saw a japanese kid driving a Supercharged Cobalt SS.....I told him You will never see that happen.

Weird. I see plenty of Asian people drive Cobalt SS's and (Neon) SRT-4's.

Hell, just yesterday some guy in a 1969 Camaro pulled up at my work, and he's from Taiwan.

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As for this, 'letter,' I doubt this sort of thing occurred. The Pilot will be a very good vehicle. However, I'm sure Honda raised it's eyebrows when the Lambda's debuted, and realized it was in for some competition.

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The owner of Toyota of Lewisville son has a 68 Camaro. Their japanese I believe, the father also owns a new Z06 and a Ford GT along with a BMW 745li.

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lolol

I can't believe some of you believe this.

I don't know what to say really either, but all I can say that it was sent through the company via one of GM's best... let's just say it was sent by one who many on here have high respects for. There was more to the email that was interesting as well but was asked not to post anything else, hence the reason I didn't post who the email came from or who all it was CC'd to.

It came from a direct reliable source of mine. Not someones father who works at such and such. Take it for what it's worth

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Yeah, "surface" is practically an engineering term defined by all visible pieces of all materials on products. A-Surface is what you see on the street everyday (the FRONT/FACE side of all materials) and B-Surface is when you take a fender or instrument panel off the vehicle and look at the BACK side of it.

Regardless, this is great to hear. :thumbsup:

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Not too sure myself if its true but if it is then that's great. I did hear a guy standing next to me at the auto show last week who was admiring the new malibu say it was so nice he would consider selling his Honda for one so I turned to him and said I think GM has found their Mojo and he said I think so too.

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Not too sure myself if its true but if it is then that's great. I did hear a guy standing next to me at the auto show last week who was admiring the new malibu say it was so nice he would consider selling his Honda for one so I turned to him and said I think GM has found their Mojo and he said I think so too.

Ironically, like in Austin Powers, it looks like GM reached into a time before they cryogenically froze themselves and regained that mojo they had from way back when. (well, the movie is played out a bit differently, but you get the point..)
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While this may bogus, it may not be. I remember a few years ago when Honda changed presidents there was an article in the media where it was reported that he commented that GM was the class of American vehicles. So there is a history of this sort of thing.

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Hoax or not. I think we can all agree that GM has turned their act around in leaps and bounds with the new product releases. I would not be surprised if Honda and Toyota had their eyes opened up a bit more seeing the debuts in Detroit. I still think the Tundra was held up after seeing the new Silverado! Maybe we could be a little less skeptical and take Good News just as that, Good News for GM!

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I've seen plenty of Asians driving Muscle Cars. My Friend Song is one of them.

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