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1. How many new Pontiacs have you purchased (or leased) in the last decade (since the '98 model year)?

2. Do you intend to purchase/lease another new Pontiac in the next two model years?

For me:

1. Two - 2002 Formula Firehawk and 2004 GTO

2. Yes - the G8 Sport Truck ( true name still unknown)

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0 and nope

In fact, I only know 1 person who has purchased a new Pontiac in the last decade, and she traded her Bonneville in for an Acura TL Type-S.

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0 and nope

In fact, I only know 1 person who has purchased a new Pontiac in the last decade, and she traded her Bonneville in for an Acura TL Type-S.

Seems you have forgotten to count your C&G friends. :AH-HA_wink:

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1. None.

2. Possibly. Depends on how finances go. The G8 ST and both Solstice variants are on the list.

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1. Zero

2. Possibly. Candidates: Solstice coupe, G6 coupe, G5 GT. Other Pontiacs I like are out of my price range... G8 ST.

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1) Zer0

2) Pontiac is probably the FIRST place I would go for a new car to either buy a G8 GXP or Solstice Targa GXP. I would even consider a G5 over the Cobalt if it had original styling and a sporty nature.

Notice how there are so many people who HAVEN'T bought a Pontiac but are now WILLING to look? That shows progress GM, the kind of progress you need for GROWTH instead of shrinking your market share.

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1) Zer0

2) Pontiac is probably the FIRST place I would go for a new car to either buy a G8 GXP or Solstice Targa GXP. I would even consider a G5 over the Cobalt if it had original styling and a sporty nature.

Notice how there are so many people who HAVEN'T bought a Pontiac but are now WILLING to look? That shows progress GM, the kind of progress you need for GROWTH instead of shrinking your market share.

Also notice which models are getting the attention...but conversely two members just bought G6's...

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I had a used LeMans, and wanted one of the late 80s early 90s Sunbird convertible really bad when they first come out., but couldn't afford it.

By the time I could afford one Pontiac had turned the Sunbird into a total chick car. White tops, swishy stickers on the side, and then it became the Sunfire.

When I was a kid I love the Firebirds, and might be one if they made it now.

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1. How many new Pontiacs have you purchased (or leased) in the last decade (since the '98 model year)?

2. Do you intend to purchase/lease another new Pontiac in the next two model years?

For me:

1. Two - 2002 Formula Firehawk and 2004 GTO

2. Yes - the G8 Sport Truck ( true name still unknown)

LS, didn't you just buy a G8 or am I confusing you with another CnGer? I know you want the ST, but for some reason I thought you got the sedan in the meantime.

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LS, didn't you just buy a G8 or am I confusing you with another CnGer? I know you want the ST, but for some reason I thought you got the sedan in the meantime.

Wasn't me, I'm not big on sedans nor automatics.

I will be waiting for a manual ST.

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2. The G8 would be on my list if I could afford it. If Pontiac builds a RWD Alpha coupe in the next couple years, I will be very interested.

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1. I have owned... A 1971 Bonneville (got it new) a 1977 Bonneville (got it new) a 1990 Grand Prix (program car) and a 2005 Bonneville SLE (CPO dealer driven car. 1st one to title it) and a 2007 Pontiac Torrent FWD (new) so five Pontiac's I DON'T have commitment issues. I like my Pontiacs. :P

2. Within the next two years unlikely however it could happen. Just like I said with Chevrolet and Caddy, but don't worry I love the G6 Coupe, Solstice and G8 Series.

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1. How many new Pontiacs have you purchased (or leased) in the last decade (since the '98 model year)?

2. Do you intend to purchase/lease another new Pontiac in the next two model years?

For me:

1. in the last 10 years 2 new Pontiacs and 1 GMC if that counts now.

2. I had planned to look at a G8 Truck but with gas going up I many be going Turbo 4 cylinder.

I will buy a new GM car next year and as of now it is going to be a Solstice coupe, HHR SS or a long shot chance a Camaro V6.

Right now the HHR SS fits my needs of a fun car to drive, family hauler and truck replacment. The G8 truck is my personel pick but with rising gas but the fact it would give me 3 vehicles and leave me with only one that would carry more than 2 people would not be a practical choice. This also hurts the Solstice too.

I may have to get the HHR SS as my daily beater and if it is still around a G8 for the wife to replace her GP in about 3-4 years.

I hope to pick up a Solstice later used as a play car.

I never really considered a 4 cylinder or a HHR but my test drive in the SS left a mark on my memory. I did not have a saleman with me and I could let here go. It was a good ride in a cheap package that will do all I want it to do. Just if they could get rid of the FWD. Plus near 30 MPG is a plus.

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1. How many new Pontiacs have you purchased (or leased) in the last decade (since the '98 model year)?

Just one, my G6 in 2006. Previously had the leased Cavalier in 2002.

2. Do you intend to purchase/lease another new Pontiac in the next two model years?

Depends, if the Solstice is still around I might think of it and depending on my financial situation. Probably as a second car. Or if the G6 returns NOT AS A REBADGED MALIBU and has a proper manual option not on the top of the line.

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1. None

2. To answer the question as-posed, no. I will be too busy with student loans. But if I did have the money for a new car, I would go to my local BPG dealer and buy the Panther Black G8 V6 they have on their lot.

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1. 1999 Grand Am GT

2. not really in the market for a new car, but if I were I would consider Pontiac. I jokingly told my Toyota son in law the best way to meet the hands free cell phone requirement starting in July is to buy a new Solstice with On Star.

Previous Pontiacs 1949, 1954 Star Chieftain, and a 1973 Catalina (used).

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For me AND the 'rents:

1. Parents, never. I just bought a loaded new '08 G6 GT coupe after a fun test drive, my first Pontiac AND my first new car.

2. Very possible, for either me or them. Now with the G6 I'm turned back on to the brand, and if more and better products keep coming, we very well could.

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1. Three: 92 Sunbird, I know, older than 98, 99 Grand Am, and my current 08 Grand Prix

2. No. Unless they bring back North American designed/made Grand Prix and Bonneville to live on forever, Kill all Holdens and imports(Vibe), never to return, from their line up and returns to the NASCAR with the Grand Prix, while dropping Toyota from NASCAR while killing Chevy Impala never to return and diss all the Chevy re-badges in exchange for their own body design(like Impala and Grand Prix was, that were different in looks). Otherwise, I won't be comming back to GM.

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1. 3: 92 Sunbird, I know, older than 98, 99 Grand Am, and my current 08 Grand Prix

2. No. Unless they bring back North American designed/made Grand Prix and Bonneville to live on forever, Kill all Holdens and imports(Vibe), never to return, from their line up and returns to the NASCAR with the Grand Prix, while killing Chevy Impala never for it to return and diss all the Chevy re-badges in exchange for their own body design(like Impala and Grand Prix was, that were different in looks). Otherwise, I won't be comming back to GM.

There's a lovely Kia Reo waiting for you then. :P

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There's a lovely Kia Reo waiting for you then. :P

Nope, I hate Imports, even for my native country Korea's. My next car will probably be either Dodge, or Chrysler. Well, in about 20 years, since I will never part with my Grand Prix. Well, even if I get my 4th car. If it dies on me, I am going to restore it and still keep it, for it was the car I wanted for so long and the one GM killed without mercy.

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Nope, I hate Imports, even for my native country Korea's. My next car will probably be either Dodge, or Chrysler. Well, in about 20 years, since I will never part with my Grand Prix. Well, even if I get my 4th car. If it dies on me, I am going to restore it and still keep it, for it was the car I wanted for so long and the one GM killed without mercy.

Well good for you, keep that baby going.

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2. Me none, I'm so done with Pontiac, wife may want a Vibe or Torrent if we come back to the USA, but I tell her the same as I tell y'all, better hurry!!!!

So why are you so anti-Pontiac?

Did the division leave a bad taste in your mouth.... Or is that taste just from CPF?

:AH-HA_wink:

Did someone from Pontiac piss in your cornflakes? Oh I forgot, Uncle Bob is why right? Did he deny you a promotion or are you just professionally jealous? You want to kill Pontiac and Holden because you (and your faction) hate Uncle Bob. It all makes so much sense now! You sold your soul to the CPF side of the company because you, for some reason, hate GMNA leadership. Now this little gasoline spike is just the stroke of luck you needed to see things go your way and prove a point at the expense of the company AND it's enthusiasts.

It's great to see that the leadership at GM is so mature and intelligent these days. It's just too bad someone hasn't retired you yet PCS.

On a related note, I enjoyed the praise heaped onto the G8 from a CALIFORNIA reader in one of this months rags (C&D maybe?) talking about how "cars like this are what GM needs to sell in markets like Cali"

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So why are you so anti-Pontiac?

Did the division leave a bad taste in your mouth.... Or is that taste just from CPF?

:AH-HA_wink:

Did someone from Pontiac piss in your cornflakes? Oh I forgot, Uncle Bob is why right? Did he deny you a promotion or are you just professionally jealous? You want to kill Pontiac and Holden because you (and your faction) hate Uncle Bob. It all makes so much sense now! You sold your soul to the CPF side of the company because you, for some reason, hate GMNA leadership. Now this little gasoline spike is just the stroke of luck you needed to see things go your way and prove a point at the expense of the company AND it's enthusiasts.

It's great to see that the leadership at GM is so mature and intelligent these days. It's just too bad someone hasn't retired you yet PCS.

On a related note, I enjoyed the praise heaped onto the G8 from a CALIFORNIA reader in one of this months rags (C&D maybe?) talking about how "cars like this are what GM needs to sell in markets like Cali"

What are you going on about? :smilewide:

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Borger, now be nice. After all, FOG knows you only by your posts. And your posts led him to the logical conclusion! :AH-HA_wink:
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Too close to home? Do I know too much?

My money's on the real story being that Pontiac has...lost its identity. What isn't a blatantly rebadged Chevy is a blatantly rebadged Holden (which is badge engineering just the same)

Also, as an addendum to my survey response, It's worth adding that my dad and I are going, in a few years mind you, buy a 1994-1995 Pontiac Trans Sport 3.8L and fix it up. Never Again wouldn't be exactly 100% true.

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1) Hmm... if you loosen the limits on the dates:

'88 Grand Am LE - Quad4/4A (given to cousin at 120k - driven into ground after 280k)

'89 Grand Am SE - Quad4/5M (given to another cousin at 98k - driven into ground after 180k)

'04 GTO, converted w/ Monaro bits

2) Maybe, depends. If I replace the Monaro, then maybe a Solstice GXP coupe. If the wife replaces the Trailblazer EXT, then maybe the G8 - but nothing's for sure.

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1. Bought new:

1990 Grand Am LE

2002 Grand Prix GT

2002 Firehawk Trans Am

2004 Montana (still have)

2004 Vibe

2007 Grand Prix (current company car)

Bought used:

1969 GTO

1968 LeMans Convertible

1967 LeMans Hardtop

1968 LeMans Hardtop

1970 GTO Hardtop (still have)

1981 Formula Firebird

1995 Firebird

2. Would like a G8 GXP or Solstice Coupe GXP

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Let's see, I had a 98 GP GTP, 01 Aztek, 04 GP GTP and now have a 06 G6 GTP. In my eyes, I don't see purchasing anyhting but a Pontiac.

My next car will either be a G8 GT or Solstice GXP. I've also been checking out some late model Trans Ams and GTOs. I'm thinking a retirement toy when the time comes. :)

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Borger, now be nice. After all, FOG knows you only by your posts. And your posts led him to the logical conclusion! :AH-HA_wink:

I just enjoy messing with Borger. In fact, since news is relatively slow, it's one of my favorite ways to pass the time now.

:AH-HA_wink:

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I just enjoy messing with Borger. In fact, since news is relatively slow, it's one of my favorite ways to pass the time now.

:AH-HA_wink:

Oh I love when you get so angry with me, I know I am on the right track at work when you are! :smilewide: Besides what else is there to do in Podunk, N.C? Hmmmmmmm? :scratchchin:

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1. How many new Pontiacs have you purchased (or leased) in the last decade (since the '98 model year)?

2. Do you intend to purchase/lease another new Pontiac in the next two model years?

...

  1. Two--2002 Grand Prix 4DR Sedan, 2004 Grand Prix GTP Comp-G
  2. Yes--Either G8 GT or G6 GT or GXP (Decision will be based on the price of fuel.)
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1. Bought an '02 Aztek, since traded in for an '07 Malibu. (My used '87 firebird doesn't count, but it was my first car)

2. I'd consider a G8 sedan, but in all honesty, sad as I'd be to see Pontiac go, maybe it should. Aside from the G8 line, there's really nothing unique to Pontiac; they could fold the G8 into Chevy as a low-production model as it is now, call it the Impala, the ST becomes El Camino, the wagon becomes Nomad.

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1998 - Pontiac Grand Prix

2002 - Pontiac Bonneville

2005 - Chevrolet Trailblazer

2008 - Chevrolet HHR

2010 - ? Like the Acadia right now (really miss the HUD I had in my Pontiacs), but by then, who knows?

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Oh I love when you get so angry with me, I know I am on the right track at work when you are! :smilewide: Besides what else is there to do in Podunk, N.C? Hmmmmmmm? :scratchchin:

Meh... I'm not in podunk anymore sir.

I'm actually with a company that is eerily close to you as a GM employee. :AH-HA_wink: In fact, there is nothing else like it in the world.

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1. None. I've never bought new. I have gone to the Pontiac dealer three times (2002 Trans Am, 2004/5 GTO, 2006 Solstice) to try to get in one, but was unable to come to a decent agreement. I have about 15 used Pontiacs.

2. G8 GXP Coupe... or G8 Coupe with a 600hp aftermarket supercharger kit... G8 wagon (prefer GXP wagon)... G8 ST... might settle for a G8 GXP Sedan.

3. What GM cars would I by in Pontiac's absence... A coupe version of the STS/DTS. Failing that, I'm a BMW/Mercedes buyer.

Stephen

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1. Two, an '01 Montana. Great milage in a minivan. I know they didn't get great reviews but ours has been frugal and pretty dependable. I also have an 08 Vibe. Maybe I saw the gas crunch coming because I got out of a 99 Catera (worst car I ever owned) and into the Vibe, which so far has been WAY more reliable and frugal, but crude compared to the

Caddy.

2. I'd buy another Pontiac. I've bought more of them new than any other brand. I'd like another hauler like the Monatana. Since Pontiac doesn't have a Lambda that could force me into an Enclave, Acadia, Outlook or Traverse, or maybe a Torrent.

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1. Two, an '01 Montana. Great milage in a minivan. I know they didn't get great reviews but ours has been frugal and pretty dependable. I also have an 08 Vibe. Maybe I saw the gas crunch coming because I got out of a 99 Catera (worst car I ever owned) and into the Vibe, which so far has been WAY more reliable and frugal, but crude compared to the

Caddy.

2. I'd buy another Pontiac. I've bought more of them new than any other brand. I'd like another hauler like the Monatana. Since Pontiac doesn't have a Lambda that could force me into an Enclave, Acadia, Outlook or Traverse, or maybe a Torrent.

Wjfox I love my Torrent it is a great small nearly midsize SUV.

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