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Automotive News July 30, 2007 - 12:01 am As legislators, regulators and automakers look for ways to improve fuel economy, they must remember that consumers will make the ultimate choices. And that's going to cause a few surprises. One example: Consumers are bidding up the prices of used cars and trucks equipped with fuel-saving diesel engines. That contradicts conventional wisdom, which holds that Americans gave up on diesels in the 1980s. Some environmentalists turn up their noses at diesel engines, but technological advances have made diesels more palatable to U.S. consumers. The Power Information Network estimates that U.S. consumers will buy more than 500,00…

I know there are lots of Pennsylvania forumers here, so I thought I would share this neat promotional video of Philadelphia & surrounding areas from around 1951. Pre-offshoring,pre-drive thru, and mostly pre-suburbia, this is an interesting blast from the past. Little did they know that the mighty Bethlehem Steel would be nothing more than a memory in 45 years.

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Happy Birthday to Polish Kris! Have a good one, sir.

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Well to Quote: Posted Yesterday, 09:36 PM Yoda of Vintage cars Members 14,064 posts At least they didn't dip the bottom 8" of the vehicle in Plasti-Dip. I thought his bottom 8" of the vehicle in Plasti-Dip was an interesting comment. WOW was I surprised to see what all people have done with Line-X and Rhino coating. So Post what you have found people to be coating in either of these two products or other meterial. Line-X covered auto's I found. Line-X covered Dash

So, I just found out today that my beloved 5500 and 7500 GMCs were replaced with 2 3500 dodge rams with the ISB cummins in them. I'm really confused how trucks that had GCVWRs of 26,000 and 36,000 lbs can be towed now by 3500 pickup.... and a Dodge too! Why not get a GM or a Ford truck... hummm anybody know anything about the big dodge, i read that they can only tow up to 19500 so thats why im worried, i think our big trailer is over 19500.

Do the 1988-up Regals 2-doors last awhile? I know its FWD and everything but there is one sitting at Orangeville Motors behind some trees. I saw it but never asked how much. It looks in alright shape. I just dont know how reliable they are. If it is the right price and reliable I may just pick it up.

I was looking at the vehicle configurtion tool on GM Canada's web page, and I clicked on "Saved configured cars", which brought me to a login screen. On the top of the screen was a little splash image with the panoramic sunroof from the G6, and... some random guy doing a karate kick? Wha??

In early August my girlfriend and I will be driving to Florida. Along the way we will be passing through Missouri, Illinois, Kentucky, Tennessee, and Georgia. We'll be heading through Alabama on the way back since we're going to stop and visit her niece near Huntsville. I've been to all mentioned except the deep south states like Georgia, Alabama, and Mississippi, so it should be a fun trip. How inundated was Nashville with water? I was thinking that would be a great halfway point, but if it was anything like the flooding we had here two years ago, we'll probably stay somewhere else instead. I want to check out Atlanta, but I don't really know what there is to see o…

Alot of you guys have really cool signatures at the bottom of your threads. How do I get one of those? Thanks.

Probably not smiling now ... Jason Huljich, left, and, right, his sister Rachel, and his sorry looking Maserati after its forklift fiasco. The plot outline: Lady parks brother's Maserati 3200 GT in a construction zone whilst brother overseas Builders decide to move Maserati with a forklift Maserati on forklift decides to fall from a height of 2 metres Maserati ends up on its roof Builder now facing possible charges This all happened in Sydney yesterday ... according to the following article from the Sydney Morning Herald, builders have been moving cars that way for a while now.Oh brother, your Maserati's mashed

This guy's actually pretty good for playing on a little keyboard. Drum video

Called The Stalker of the Board of Education. The_Stalker_of_the_Hillsborough_B.doc

"I'm going through change-ehh-es... I'm going through change-ehh-eess" Sing, Ozzy, sing. Anyhow... nothing like a little Black Sabbath to announce changes. As you may remember, I moved to Michigan in the spring for various photography endeavors. It was a fairly substantial change of pace for me and a real opportunity do something with one of my hobbies. It was something I had only dreamed of tackling up to that point. To say the least, I certainly won't regret what transpired this summer, especially the bittersweet ending. However, the experience was mired by a sour agreement before I was even able to begin. Going back, I arrived with an overwhelming nervous…

Anyone who likes basketball should watch this (if you haven't seen it already, it's from game 1 of the Cav vs Wizards):

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Oh man, I am sorry I missed it when I passed through this morning. I hope you are having a good one, sir!

i've been asking this in portuguese forums but anyone couldnt explain me, how parking light work, and what are their function.. do they turn on automaticaly? or do you need it to turn it on yourself? because I red somewhere that parking lights were to show to the other drivers that the car with the orange lights on was looking for a place to park...

Anyone remember this? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...b+Suite&pl=true I thought of this and it could be an idea for a Camaro intro ad... First show a tagline: "After many years of waiting, there's something that the Chevrolet family is so happy they're dancing..." Then show a stream of Cobalt SS, Malibus, Impalas and Corvettes enter the scene doing the stunt ballets. After dancing for a short while, a covered carrier truck arrives. Camera zooms into the container, and zooming into the light fading into the Camaro sitting inside, zooming into the smooth body lines and slowly getting brighter. The Camaro then lights up, launches off from the carrier, do…

I'm running Windows XP, and use Apple Itunes as my default media player. Unfortunately, when importing music, I chose the MPEG-4 format as my default setting...The thing is, the MPEG-4 format isn't compatible with any other media player...Anyone have any ideas on how to covert my music files, currently in the MPEG-4 format, to industry standard WAV, or MP3, format?

Sorry about the late wishes, hope it was a good one!

My wife's company entitles us to the GM Supplier pricing, and there is a web site I can access to find out GMS pricing. Is there a web site fpr GM EMPLOYEE pricing that I can access? If so, what is the address? I'm curious to find out the difference between GM Supplier and GM Employee pricing on certain vehicles. Any help?

Looks like some sort of beetle, a jewel-like insect. Very interesting to see it in motion.

This is a random moment brought to you by a very bored random person. This has nothing to do with anything but i will put this up just so you can say whatever you want that doesnt belong in any other thread but would like to say just because you were bored like me ad it seemed like a good idea at the time. My random message is: Toyota sux! WHOO! Significance? Nope. But i feel better now.

Saw this, thought I'd share. From Here Cribs: Explorer t-bones into tank... Explorer loses. tank1.bmp tank2.bmp

mouse over comment is "i suppose it's more accurately a hare dryer"

My dad sent me this Ebay auction - I wonder how long before the bondo starts cracking? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...bayphotohosting

FUN! (WRONG VIDEO)Here's some Porsche videos: ------ I meant to post THIS one -------> Po-po Charger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTXJIj4FhlM SLR: Ferrari driver trying to get arrested.

While visiting with the owner of my local Chevy Dealer, the subject of GM's future came up. He stated that with 40% of GM dealers being closed, it will be impossible for GM not to file for BK. He stated that GM could not get enough government cash, and doesn't have enough lawyers to cover all of the potential law suits. At the end of the conversation i was in agreement with him regarding this matter. Any thoughts on this?

Been a while since I've been online.... But, what a summer it has been! Lots of gatherings of all sorts...with a road trip in the mix...and more to come YET this YEAR! From Friday, August 8, to Tuesday, August 12, I traveled through 8 states in 5 days...and met up with friends and family along the way. I rented a Dodge Charger, even after the original rental place had no cars available despite my reservation. The Dodge Charger was a pleasure to drive...on the road trip. I had to pick it up Wednesday night, August 6, since Mom and Dad left for PA the next morning (Thursday). I put the '87 MC LS in the garage with the older 4 MCs Wednesday night and took the Charge…

I guess the engineers nowadays are really up to something. If you look under the hood of the Civic, you'd notice there is absolutely NO space for any kind of work. This leads to strange engine layouts The other day when me and my friends were holding a car wash fest, the guy with a Civic Si was changing his headlight bulbs to the white ones. Interesting enough, you have to take out the whole coolant tank to reach the bulbs. I accidently picked it up, and coolant was leaking from it. I started hearing cursing and foul language. In short, you had to unlatch the battery, and remove the coolant tank for you to get to the bulbs. Car engineers these days... Or should I …

Downing of Flight MH17, Who is REALLY to BLAME? Editorial G. David Felt Staff Writer Alternative Energy www.CheersandGears.com The downing of Malaysia flight MH17, delays in access to the crash site, and shipment home of the deceased has many thinking about what could have been done to avoid it this tragedy. Another question to ask is what are the rebels trying to hide? The delay in allowing inspectors to the crash site along with the delay in collecting the bodies all while the rebels based on various news sources with cell phone pictures and cell phone videos showing rebels removing evidence makes this an even bigger question. Years now the world has kno…

Is it just me or does he seem like the kind of guy Josh Oliver, leader of the WWW.thegmsource.com, the greatest site ever, would envy?

Any way I can one for my G6? I can't register on MyGMLink because I'm in Canada, and there's no Canadian version. I want to get it so I can familiarize myself with the car before I pick it up. I need a fairly long trip right off the bat when I pick it up (Toronto -> Waterloo).

If you've got nothing better to do tonight, they're doing one of those paid "test drives" on Speed with Tommy Kendall and Danica Patrick.

its pretty official this isnt meant to be at this time. focus has shifted and this concept was pretty much doa. at least it stirred up some positive talk for a while. maybe theyll cut 4 cylinders and earn the respect again of the benz' bimmers' and bentlys buyers of the world. the cadillac 16 concept from top gear. http://youtube.com/watch?v=4BBekU-CcZ0&mode=related&search=

August and Frederik Duesenberg, 1920s (article by the Des Moines Register) Two of the world's finest car builders got their start in Iowa. Cars adorned with the Duesenberg name were known for speed, style and luxury. Frederick Duesenberg was born in Germany in 1876, and August Duesenberg was born there in 1878. They arrived in the United States in 1885. Their widowed mother emigrated with them and four of their siblings. An older brother had already arrived and welcomed his family to a farm at Rockford. By the late 1890s, the brothers were skilled mechanics, operating bicycle-and-motorcycle shops, Fred in Rockford and "Augie" in Garner. They moved to Des Moines about…

I'm inquiring about two 2009 GM-issued calendars that dealers receive (or buy?) and distribute to their customers: 2009 GM Muscle Cars 2009 GM Classic Cars & Trucks I've tried a bunch of my local dealers to see if they had either calendar to give me with no luck (one dealer said that "GM stopped doing them over a decade ago" ). Do any of our dealership personnel here have access to these calendars? I'd definitely like to get one of each, if possible, and I'm willing to reimburse the cost of shipping. Thanks in advance!!

http://www.sccaforums.com/forums/thread/387381.aspx MY kind of Firebird!

I thought you guys might enjoy this one.... A guy met an older woman in a bar. They drank and flirted and he decided she was pretty hot for a fifty-five-year-old. As they exchanged a passionate kiss, she whispered in his ear: "Have you ever had a mother and daughter together?" "No" he answered. "But it's something I've always fantasized about" "Well, tonight could just be your lucky night." she said, knocking back another double vodka. Scarcely able to contain himself, he went back to her place. She turned the key in the door, put the hall light on and shouted upstairs: "Mom, you still awake?"

This is really clever and very well done http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_PkpRWzP4M

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Flybrian's Random Car Showcase Presents... The 1956 Buick Centurion Through boredom and...well, just boredom, I bring you the second in likely many little 'diaries' of a completely random car. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1956 Buick Centurion Of all General Motors divisions, Buick was arguably the most prolific builder of concept cars. Perhaps it was the motiff of classic American style and attainability that destined the middle-luxury marque to be the showcase for some of the most beautiful automobiles never to be produced. Beginning with the very first dream car - the 1938 Y-Job - Buick took center stage at GM's famed Motorama and gave us all something to fantasize ab…

I went to see the cars lined up at the start of the Copperstate 1000 Road Rally today...neat variety of classics... here's some pics of some of the cars. These cars are going to be driving 1000 miles around AZ for the next 4 days. Gallery view: Copperstate 1000 pics Packard convertible: A '72 BMW 3.0CS for Sixty Eight to enjoy: Chrysler Airflow: '28 Bentley coupe: '61 Aston Martin Zagato: '70 Torino stock car (an unrestored real race car) Corvettes: Aston Martin race car lots of Ferraris also.

... of losing the Firehawk and GTO. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

Jeep Roll dont feel so bad about the blazer st8

Cadillac's Fabulous V-16s by Bill Vance The Cadillac V-16 was conceived in what were seen as the best of times, the Roaring Twenties. Alas, by the time it went on sale it was the worst of times, the Depression of the thirties brought on by the October 1929 collapse of the stock market. In spite of the bad times, however, the introduction of a 16- cylinder engine vaulted Cadillac into the front ranks of prestige automobiles. There were private showings in December 1929, followed by its public presentation at the New York Auto Show in January 1930. Such American marques as Packard, Franklin, Marmon, Lincoln and Pierce-Arrow would respond with large, multi-cylinder e…

With the second pick, the Detroit Lions select Calvin Johnson, wide receiver from Georgia Tech. Those poor Lions are so predictable, I dont care that they're not going to pick for an hour and a half, thats what they're going to do.

http://sports.yahoo.com/olympics/beijing/t...s&type=lgns I didn't know ping-pong was even an olympic event...ranks right up there with badmitton

What is the point of this $h!....

....Into a Toyota dealership and decided to properly test drive a Tacoma. He was even kind enough, as a Loyal C and G member, to videotape the test drive for us! www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8ZOf8xp1no Chris One has to approve of his methodology!

Cadillacs in movies: http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Cadilla...l-Eldorado.html

trusty google is teh suck for me on this. if anyone has a pic of the emblem i can use to finish my sig, i'd appreciate it. :) EDIT: or actually, just what font it is, if available, would work, too.

Today I went up to the Jefferey Buick dealership in hope of finding parts for my 85 Riviera sunroof and they were telling me that the parts are all discontinued but they might be in Wisconsin somewhere. I was wondering if anyone else ever heard of this because I would like to know where this place might be.

Idiots...

So Wednesday after work my girlfriend and I had a nice lunch at the park and decided that it would be fun to go to the Interstate Auto Auction...no intentions of buying, just a chance to check out and drive a bunch of cars. We arrived and registered, the went car browsing...we ended up looking at several cars and test driving a few too. Here are some Highlights: Dodge Stealth My this was the first car we test drove, which my girlfriend pointed out shortly after we started looking at cars. This one was Silver, with the stupid Dodge spoiler (I like the Mitsubishi one much better), upgraded brakes, and performance exhaust, and...blue trimmed black interior. Now, I have…

Has anyone else read Lee Iacocca's new book? Like his previous 2 books I found it to be very interesting.

...the new Octomom Breakfast at Denny's? It comes with 8 eggs, no sausage, and everyone in the restaurant has to pitch in and pay for it for you.

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Anyone heard about this as well? I heard it on the radio the other day. Wondering if that means they're going to sell a bunch of Impala 9C1s, 9C3s and Crown Vic PIs.

I know this is wierd but I'm actually Ferrari360 not that anyone will care, but just for people to know because I used to be into the sight a lot, but I changed my name on all the forums because i wanted something better. So If you noticed my chopping has improved but you guys could still probably tell that they are my kinda chops. Well thx g B) uys, lol :CG_all: -so basically, I've never been gone ^_^

Sorry but I am going to mark out for Kid Rock & T.B.T. right now and say you MUST first download "Live Trucker" By the boys, then go buy it on the 28th when it makes its *official* debut. http://simplemp3s.com/

WASHINGTON - A huge federal study in people — not rats — takes the fizz out of arguments that the diet soda sweetener aspartame might raise the risk of cancer. No increased risk was seen even among people who gulped down many artificially sweetened drinks a day, said researchers who studied the diets of more than half a million older Americans. A consumer group praised the study, done by reputable researchers independent of any funding or ties to industry groups. "It goes a fair way toward allaying concerns about aspartame," said Michael Jacobson, head of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, which had urged the government to review the sweetener's safety afte…

I saw this video and I just had to share it... I have to say this is perhaps the funniest and best explanation of why you'd want an LT1 Roadmaster that I've ever seen!

So my family is going to go be doing a major overhall of our car fleet. in the next 6-18 months almost EVERTHING will be replaced. Current fleet. My car - loaded 2006 SS Malibu sedan My brothers car- well optioned 2006 Mustang v6 with pony package and leather. My sister in laws car- well optioned 2006 Saturn vue fwd v6 My parents car - Loaded (besides sunroof) 2000 Oldsmobile intrigue gls My dad doesnt drive anymore as he has MS so he sold his 02 alero 4 banger and isnt looking to replace it. We've all just moved to a really cool brand new house that customized and once the old one sells (please God let it sell sooner rather than later) We'll be in a gr…

I look at my web home page and there's a link to "campus shooting." Unbelievable: it's at the University of Washington in Seattle More unbelievable: in the Architecture Building They weren't students, per se, but it was a murder-suicide between a research associate and a man who was obviously obsessed with her. One of thinks of smug, morose, safe Nordic Seattle and this is hard to believe. On the South End, maybe. But on the UW campus? I rarely visit the place as I want to forget the school experience there. However, if I ever do, it will be creepy.

Have you heard about the new TV series coming. It's called Supernatural. It's these two brothers who travel around in their beat up '69 Chevy Impala to various small towns investigating strange goings-on. This one looks good to me. http://www.tv.com/supernatural/show/30144/summary.html

Here are some photos of a couple of product lines that were taken (not by me) in an Australian auto parts store. I thought you guys would appreciate the honesty and humor that went into the selection of the product names.

...when this doesn't get you in trouble. Yup, that's the kitchen counter, and the parts will likely be there for a week - she knows it, and is ok with it.

I can't remember who all here is in the auto sales business, but I believe Carbiz is? Anyway, I am looking at a 2001 Lincoln LS V8 that goes for about $8870 according to Kelly Blue Book. However, most of the same year / features / similar mileage that I've seen are between $7900 and $8500 (the $7900 is a private seller). The salesman that I am going through at a local F-L-M dealership is asking $8700, which my uncle (who owns a used car business and goes to auto auctions all the time) says is on the high side. He also says that KBB values are usually overinflated. My question is, what size profit margin would the dealer be expecting on this car? I realize they ca…

Clicky Sounds hellish.

Ditching the lame Blackberry and going with simply out-and-out better. I have a choice between the Palm Treo 650 and UTStarcom PPC6700. Palm Tero UTStarcom Thoughts?

Not the sharpest knife in the drawer." "Got into the gene pool while the lifeguard wasn't watching." "A room temperature IQ." "Got a full 6-pack, but lacks the plastic thingy to hold it all together." "A gross ignoramus---144 times worse than an ordinary ignoramus." "A photographic memory but with the lens cover glued on." "A prime candidate for natural deselection." "Bright as Alaska in December." "One-celled organisms outscore him in IQ tests." "Donated his brain to science before he was done using it." "Fell out of the family tree." "Gates are down, the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming." "Has two brains: one is lost an…

For your parts that fit my Chrysler. The HVAC knobs are custom made using the center parts from the Intrepid knobs housed inside the rubber/chrome ring from a GMC Acadia. The stereo knob, which just arrived today, is from a 2013 Sonic. This was kind of a PITA because apparently GM doesn't sell just the knobs so I had to buy the whole stereo. Bright side is that this is the brick stereo out of the super stripper fleet model, so they're dirt cheap used. She gets a little more classy every day. <3

Does anyone know of a site that has the dimensions of the cargo area listed in inches x inches x inches rather than cubic inches? Rather than just having a figure for cubic inches, I want something that tells me what the minimum width between the two sides of the cargo area are, as well as length and heighth.

Finally got all of the parts I got from All You Can Carry Day (this past Halloween) out and lined up. Here they be: I'm two door panels and a speaker grill short of a complete taupe interior. Nice thing is that the center console has the second AUX power port which I plan to hook up. So much better than the hard to get to one next to the ash tray. I' got a newer style auto dimming mirror, the AutoStick shifter mechanism, a clock, and an OTIC or whatever we seem to call them. I'm calling them that because that's what the manual calls them but I digress. I'm kinda disappointed with the interior color. I thought taupe would be closer to tan than gray. It isn't. Yes…

Being the rebel I try to be once in awhile.. I'm not going to click on the other thread. :) Who's with me?

Basically right now it lets you show off your car, in the same manner CarDomain or CarSpace would, but in facebook. A LOT of new features are coming, including rating your car and a buy&sell. The ratings will be particularly interesting because you'll be able to see a list of people with the most popular cars in your network, your geographical location, and so on. Suggestions for improvements are welcome. Pretty much anything is possible if you can name it... it can be added. *A lot of Classic cars are on the way for "favorites"* So far we have planned to add the following in the next week or two: > Buy & Sell > Rate my car > Top rated cars …

Just for fun, based not so much on his chops but the fun way he responds to critique; How old do you think MRDETROITMETAL is?

If one of the speakers on your home theater system stops working, don't: -Disconnect all 30 wires attached to it... -Take the whole system apart to find nothing wrong... -Turn the receiver off and on repeatedly... -Curse at and hit the receiver several times... -Search on Google futilely to find a solution to the problem only to find nothing... -Curse at and hit the receiver several times again... ...when all you needed to do was cut off the old bare wire at each end of the speaker wire and strip and connect new bare wire.

if we prolly dont' have enough of these already. http://1x.com/photo/30632/ not easily copy and paste-able w/o possible right infringement. go to the site.

I do this....