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Last week we had "Unpopular Opinion about an Unpopular Car". This week we're doing Unpopular Opinion about a Popular Car. What good selling car or one that gets lots of praise in the motoring press do you have a contrary opinion about? One entry for me is the Alfa Romeo Giulia. While they handle well, I find their styling, both interior and exterior to be completely underwhelming. They lack the refinement of most of their competition. The reliability is ...erm.... traditional Italian brand reliability. I've just never seen what the rest of the motoring press is going on about with how "great" these cars are. Apparently shoppers agree with me as the Alfa brand is…
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Rules are simple: Post a car from a PREVIOUS poster in your favorite color. Post YOUR favorite car in your favorite color. Only cars (trucks, suvs) currently on sale. I will start Mustang GT in Velocity Blue
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I have a quick question and I'm hoping someone can help. I know for 2016, the Buick LaCrosse got Android Auto/Apple CarPlay Could a 2015 LaCrosse get an update to utilize Android Auto/Apple CarPlay or is it a different radio altogether? Thanks!
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Guess what? I am NEW to these. Typically, I've had rental cars while on vacation or, if in foreign urban centers, I've just used their metro systems to get around. I need to get to the airport. Early. If not an early flighty, I just take a bus from a suburban mall to a train station for the subway into the airport and go on the cheap. Can't beat that. Plus, I love riding subway type trains. There is no early bus or train service for those first flights out. So I plan to take Uber or Lyft. Questions: 1. Have you had success with early pick ups in the burbs to go to the airport with Uber or Lyft? 2. Do you prefer Uber or Lyft? Pros and con…
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Do you have an unpopular opinion about an unpopular car? Shout it out here. Here's one of mine: The first FWD generation of the Impala was actually a handsome car.
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Rainy and foggy so far this May....Friday was particularly gloomy and foggy/rainy...saw a white C7 convertible (top up) out in the gloom. This morning saw a dark red '19 Camaro SS at the grocery, still had a window sticker and temporary tag, yet the rear bumper was cracked and scuffed.
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Help me pick out what cars I need to focus on. I usually can get 7 to 8 drives in maximum. You tell me what you want me to write about. Acura NSX Acura TLX PMC Edition Alfa Romeo Quadrifoglio BMW i8 Roadster BMW Z4 sDrive30i BMW X7 50i xDrive BMW 330i Adaptive M BMW M850i xDrive Buick Regal GS AWD Buick Envision AWD Cadillac XT4 AWD Sport Chevrolet Bolt EV Chevrolet Blazer RS AWD Chevrolet Silverado Trail Boss Chrysler Pacifica Dodge Challenger Scat Pack Fiat 124 Spider GMC Sierra Denali 1500 4WD Honda Civic Honda HR-V Honda Passport Hyundai Veloster N Hyundai Elantra GT N-Line Jeep Gladiator Lexus LC 500 Hybrid Lex…
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20190505_110414-mp4.mp4 Mother’s Day weekend was a busy one. The kids had planned out the whole Sunday for the wife and I had planned the day before to build an area with a raised garden bed for the wife. The raised bed material was bought, the area mapped out and the plan to get up early and rent a truck to pick up cedar chips and black gold compost soil was scheduled. Saturday morning went as I expected, up early, quick breakfast and off to be the first in line at the U-Haul rental place. Figured rather than $75 per delivery, two types of material meant $150, why not spend $19.95 for a single day rental of the truck, pick up the material myself and pocket $1…
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Happy April Fools Day, folks. To kick off this thread, I don't have a really interesting sighting. Just an observation. I saw the current Lincoln Continental going down the freeway next to me, ultimately passing me as it was moving along to my left. The Continental's front grille makes that nice, vertical Lincoln statement. I once sat in one at the auto show. The interior is really nicely finished and the one at the show had these blue leather seats - nice ones, not tacky ones. Then, as the car pulls away from you, the effect sort of sputters. The rear deck lid tapers and the twin horizontal lamps are sort of wimpy compared to the statement the rest of th…
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I know the topic was discussed about a year or so ago, couldn't find it. Question: if you were going out to -ahem- purchase your first smart phone, what would you chose & why? Asking for a friend.
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Does anyone else notice a big drop in fuel economy when using the air conditioning? For people with automatic climate control do you ever manually turn off the air conditioner?
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Photos from the Cleveland Auto Show today. New cars and old cars.
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Let's first say that this is the first non-GM product my family has owned, and the GM dealership where we always take our vehicles gives us very fair prices. Anyways, my brother's Civic had it's first service warning light and code come on this week (I guess all Hondas do this). The code was B12, meaning the car thinks it's time for an oil change, air filter change, cabin air filter change, and tire rotation (plus inspection of whatever). My dad called the Honda dealership to see what the code meant, and then scheduled an appointment. They told him it would be $260 to do everything the car "needed." Now we've only put 3k miles on the car since buying it, and the tires w…
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What's a car commercial from your youth that really stuck in your head over the years... it doesn't have to be a car you particularly liked, but one that was unique and you remember well. One of the ones that really stands out for me was this Isuzu Rodeo commercial. A older teacher in a monotone voice slowly instructs a class of coloring 1st graders to "Stay between the lines, the lines are our friends". Then one precocious little girl decides to scribble all over her coloring book. She grows up to buy an Isuzu Rodeo and goes off-roading. For whatever reason my dad got a kick out of it and it really stuck in my head all these years. So what's one th…
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What would be some nominations for 7 wonders of the automotive world? I'll compile a list from your nominations and we'll have an article about it. You don't need to nominate 7 in total, just something you think should be included on the list. Just picking your favorite cars isn't going to be enough. The vehicle should be historically significant and/or mark a departure in automotive design/technology. I'm going to try to include some from America, Asia, and Europe so we're not so heavily weighted. In any case, when explaining automobiles to some alien race, these 7 vehicles should tell a story about why they are the most important ones in automotive history.
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Time Travel Edition.... Your 12 year old self, 22 year old self, 32 year old self, 42 year old self, 52 year old self... If you are not 42 or 52 yet....what you would buy today if you were older. For your younger self, anything available at the time you were that age. Only restriction is must be street legal. Kit cars, one of show cars, prototypes, et al completely allowed. Does not have to be your only car...5 exotic concepts is fine. 12 year old self...69 Charger Pretty Mellow guy at 22...newly married....living a quiet life...but still loved cars....how about this Buick GS? Was into Mustan…
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Been a while since we did one of these. A lot of great vehicles had their last hurrah for the 2018 Model Year. From mainstream offerings, to exotics, many models had their demise. This thread will be dedicated to those. You can choose either cars that were discontinued entirely, had specific trim levels axed, or lost body styles. Rules- 1) Must be 2018 MY 2) Choices must be offered in your market 3) Production vehicles only 4) Choices must have been discontinued, replaced with new model, had a body style dropped, etc 5) Maximum of 5 choices 6) These are your only vehicles Have fun!
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Last night, my wife and I took a trip of about 100km to another city. I got off the highway at my exit and pulled up to the stoplight at the end of the ramp. All of a sudden the dash lights up like a christmas tree (Service Engine light, Engine Power Reduced light, Service Vehicle light, Traction Control light) and "CODE 84" shows up in the DIC. Engine power was extremely limited, I limped off the road at about 20 km/h. Pulled over, checked the fluids, everything looked fine. Tried restarting the car a few times, same thing kept coming up. I started to call GM customer service, then realized I couldn't remember what the number of the code was, so I started the car back up…
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Post pics of your other Hobbies besides cars. Me, I love to bake. Specifically I love making bread, but I also like cakes and cookies and pies. For the past week I've been working on a sour dough starter so I can make sour dough bread and sour dough English muffins. These just came out of the oven and smell great!
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Hi there! I'll admit writing this feels somewhat awkward as I really don't like talking about myself. Most of the time, I'm churning out news stories and reviews for various places. But this is somewhat important. Next week, I'll be starting a new job with JATO Dynamics as a Specifications Researcher. Basically, I'll be digging into the various information about features, options, and other information on new vehicles. This may seem somewhat odd to be moving from a writing position to doing a bit of research, but it actually uses a lot of the skills and knowledge that I have gathered from being a freelancer. Also, I've been feeling slightly burnt out in terms of the …
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Saw a black or dark blue 63-64 Rambler Classic 4dr w flames painted in the front fenders and hood. Sitting in a driveway.
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@balthazar Age.... 2?
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Cheers and Gears has a policy of no political talk on the boards, but it's impossible to do the traditional review of the year's significant events without mentioning some of the actions of the federal government that so permeate the news and our lives. Those who get their delicate sensibilities easily offended are urged to skip this post and go elsewhere, such as link. That said, here are some of the things that happened in our country: The deadliest high school shooting in U.S. history occurred in Parkland, Florida in February. Teenagers became vocal activists, in stark contrast to timid politicians, and reignited the gun control debate. “America’s Dad” Bil…
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Saw a new '19 GMC Sierra Denali for the first time today. Was backed into a parking space, next to a previous generation Sierra Denali. The new one looks taller and bigger...the giant chromey grille looks gianter and chromeier. Everything about it shouts 'moar' 'moar' moar'!
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i was walking downtown and then i detected seismic activity in brown town. i was with people and if i didn't evacuate the farticles in time, the bullet train express to Brownsville Station would arrive too early. in a moment of sheer genius, i quickly ran to a busker playing good king wenceslas on tuba, threw a dollar and stood next to him, quietly joining in a duet that was nearly pitch perfect because I do lots of squats. when did you conceal farts like a pro?
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Was in the drive thru at Dunkin Donuts this morning, behind a Ford Ecosport. Studying the rear, I realized the portion of the right taillight on the rear door has a door handle built into it... the rear door is side hinged like the old Rav4 on these, i think. But behind me was a more interesting car--a maroon w/ white top early 80s Olds 98 4dr...appeared solid.
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I had to go to a luncheon for continuing ed (it was free) and got a ride with one of my co-workers. He drives a 1986 BMW 635 coupe with 130,000 original miles. I got in it and was surprised at how noisy it was. Not only that, the transmission shifted with bumps at each shift point. The air vents were not particularly well placed and it didn't direct enough A/C to keep me comfortable. This was a high line BMW in its day? Come on. I was not impressed at all. Granted, a lot of it comes down to maintenance. I doubt my co-worker babies his car the way I do. By comparison, my newer but more heavily used Regal (227,000 miles) has a much quieter engine and a tranny wit…
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I guess I'll start this month off. 1977 Caprice Classic sedan in light green, perfect condition, driven in traffic yesterday. I remember how excited I was in the autumn of 1976, (I was 12 years old and a complete car FREAK) to see the brand new, smaller and very good looking GM B, C and D-bodies hit the streets. First one I saw on the road back then... was a yellow Electra 225 with tan vinyl top. I think I freaked my grandparents out with my hoops and hollers that day.
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Who had what? Post 'em up (diggin' mine up...)
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The idea for this came to me over dinner. List 5 features of your current daily driver you prefer over your previous daily driver. Then list 5 features of your previous daily driver you prefer over your current daily driver. I'll go first. My current daily driver is a 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited 4x4 w/ V6 (WK2). I bought it 18 months ago with 25k miles, has almost 40k mile now. My previous daily driver was a 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4 w/ I6 (WJ). I bought it new in 2000, drove until last March. Put 170k miles on it over almost 17 years. Current vehicle preferences: (in no particular order) 1. Quadratrac II. My WJ had a big 4 …
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Place seems to dead anymore. Sad to see. At any rate, I bought a new car. If anyone feels like making guesses.
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Seems the charts speak for themselves. You can read the story at Jalopnik or go to ISEECARS and read each on individually. American and Asian rule the lowest depreciation on auto's. A few US and Asian auto's but the Germans rule the highest depreciation on auto's. Jalopnik story ISEECARS website
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Does any of you play any racing video games/simulators? Which ones? I understand that most of the posters here are old f@rts (not that I am young myself to be honest), but I was wondering if any of you play. Just recently got for my son's birthday Playstation 4 and was considering getting a wheel and pedal setup to play Project Cars 2.
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Have a great birthday @William Maley and @ccap41
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I took a drive east up the Lake Erie coast towards the PA line, visiting a couple wineries and a couple of my favorite beaches..beautiful and sunny, but too hot (85). There was a VW cruise-in show in Geneva-on-the-Lake, saw dozens of vintage Beetles, buses, modern GTIs, etc in stock and restomod forms....maybe my favorite car of the day, though was a very clean gray w/ no vinyl top '71 Buick Electra 225 4dr ht. It needed whitewalls and some interior work, but appeared rust free. Another favorite was a bright red w/ matching steel wheels '72 Chevy Bel Air 4dr sedan..very clean, appeared rust free also. Saw a white '64 Ford Fairlane 2dr ht parked in a driveway, a dar…
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Many brands are now featuring what I call the "laptop left open" look atop the center stack of newer vehicles. Mazda is doing this, and some German marques are doing this, too. It appears that the new Ford Focus will also feature it. Mazda 6 (?) BMW 3 series 2019 Ford Focus The Malibu has it, sort of, but it looks fairly well integrated. Latest Malibu I do not like most of them. I can handle it on the Malibu. It may be convenient but, in most cases, it looks ugly ... to me.
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Good evening! Its been a while since Ive posted outside the Merchandise forum. My lease on my '17 Traverse is coming to an end in the next couple months. Once again, I am not finding many good deals on GM vehicles at the moment. I am holding out a little longer, to see how incentives go. I just cant fathom that the same trim level Traverse in the new body style is ~125-150 more a month. Last time I ran into this with the car, I ended up buying a Charger since I couldnt get what I wanted from GM. Now on my third Charger, I dont regret it. I have been seeing ads for the new '19 Ram with a great lease price. Could I end up with no GM vehicles in the next two mo…
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Which one will you choose with your own money? Please, provide a reason. Responses from people who get to drive a lot of cars especially appreciated.
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Well, it's the 1st of August. Seen anything you care to share, describe, and/or have photographed? Have at it. Today, I was driving down a major street with two traffic lanes in each direction that had residential homes on each side of it. I was in the right hand lane. Following me along in traffic in the left hand lane was a silver 2002-2003ish Olds Alero coupe. It sounded pretty good as it accelerated in the stop and go traffic. At a certain point, the traffic was stopped in front of a house with a silver 2002-2003ish Olds Alero sedan. At this point, these two silver Olds Aleros were perpendicular to each other. It was funny to me because just last night…
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It's been a while since I've last checked in so here's a short update since my last post. After a little over 2 years with Car and Driver, I am now back on the hunt for employment/trying to get back into the grind as a freelancer. Unfortunately, my position (and a dozen others) was cut two weeks ago due to a restructuring effort. It was sudden and completely unexpected for those who were let go and those who weren't. While I'm sad to leave the company, I'm remaining positive with the hope that better opportunities lie ahead and wish everyone there well. I couldn't have asked for better coworkers. That said, I'm still in Michigan—For now. Josh and I have been m…
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Starting off the July thread, saw this Mini Mini Van from Subaru of Japan imported into Washington. Right hand drive So tiny compared to the GMC pickup.
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https://www.comixology.com/Vice-9-1/digital-comic/684590?ref=c2VhcmNoL2luZGV4L2Rlc2t0b3Avc2xpZGVyTGlzdC9pdGVtU2xpZGVyMy comic Been working on this for awhile, finally up and ready to promote! This issue is "Girls Night", it's essentially the 2 minute short to give a taste of whats to come, takes place during the middle of summer, when the stories already in full swing. "It's Saturday night in the middle of summer and two of the girls from the South Side Ninja's had their dates cancel on them, so they figured why not go race around the city? A short story and a glimpse of what's to come later." I'd appreciate it if you bought an issue, gave me some…
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Found this story on Jalopnik and thought we should have a lively debate on if this is accurate or not. https://jalopnik.com/screw-you-carmakers-you-dont-get-to-ruin-the-word-co-1827480939 To quote the story: The word “coupe” comes from the French word “couper,” which means “to cut” because a coupe was a sort of “cut down” version of a car: smaller, leaner, lighter, sportier, shorter, and, significantly, less doors. As in two where the non-coupe version of the car would have had four. Do you go with the change in definition of what a Coupe is or do you still agree that this is a true coupe?
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We'll more and more evidence that we are heading towards a bear market. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-next-bear-market-in-stocks-will-spark-a-retirement-crisis-2018-06-27 Social Security has started to tap trust funds that will run out by 2034. Medicare has increased using trust funds that are expected to be depleted by 2026. End result is both programs are expected to be insolvent and the gov continues to increase spending on defense over taking care of the country. 10,000 baby boomers retire every day making this an even bigger uglier mess. We are in the 10th year by some of a bull market that has quadrupled since March 2009 with an…
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I really like these redline editions that Chevy does. I know there isn't anything groundbreaking here, but the package just pulls everything together and looks great.
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...because there's so much funny crap on the interweb! I'll kick things off Who wants to participate?
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Several members have little projects going on, I figured I'd have a thread for mine. This will be an ongoing thread, if for no other reason than because I like documenting my progress. After building my own mower and rekindling an hobby I had when I was younger, I thought it might be fun to fix and flip mowers for some extra crash and as something to do. I went from having no lawn mower to having 6! Not sure how that even happened but that's ok. The first one is of course the Brute, which is my keeper. To build it I was given a donor mower with a good engine that needed TLC and a well used but still solid deck. After that was finished I came across a couple of mo…
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Well, pretty simple, who wore it better?
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2019 Chevy Blazer RS AWD 3.6!
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You always wanted to drive. EVERYONE has that one car they've either seen, read about, knew someone had (Personally or at the office complex/on the block/etc.) that they've always wanted to drive and experience, but haven't yet for whatever reason (Like dealers not letting you unless you're actually gonna buy it) Got a lot of cars, but to keep it simple, gonna list... Mk2 TT RS! Even before I owned a Mk1 225 Roadster, even before I drove a mk2 3.2 and was disappointed with it's jelly soft clutch, always loved this beast and would love to own one! While I'm new here, should be picked up on I'm a manual guy,…
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Nice sunny day today so far...went out for a short walk w/ the dogs, and saw a very clean dark mid '90s Buick Park Avenue driving down my street..
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Seems that Lego has felt we need a new Supercar in our stable at a cost of $400 for the 3,599 piece kit per their newest news release. https://www.lego.com/en-us/aboutus/news-room/2018/june/lego-technic-bugatti-chiron/ The 1:8 scale LEGO Technic Bugatti Chiron is over 5" tall, 22" long and 9" wide or 14cm high, 56cm long and 25cm wide for our metric friends. Crazy but this model has a fully moving engine, transmission, wheels, and so much more. As to be expected you have an 8-speed gearbox with paddle shifters on the steering wheel with the iconic Bugatti logo. http://legoexternal.23video.com/video/27694211/2018-lego-technic-bugatti-chiron-revealmp4 ht…
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Just for kicks ~ Take what you paid for your daily driver, then look up it's trade in average value on kbb.com. Take that difference (your vehicle's depreciation), and divide it by the miles you've driven it (to the nearest 500 or 1000 should be fine). This gives you a cost per mile for ownership (obviously separate from maintenance/repairs). Me ~ '04 Silverado 2500HD, $15035 difference, 133K miles = 11 cents/mile.
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The Year Is: 1988 The year is 1988. You've recently moved to Minnesota and just now learned it occasionally snows there. Since you don't want your current daily driver to get rusty with all the road salt, you decide a domestic front wheel drive car with sporty pretensions would fun to drive in the winter without the risk of ruining your extra-magnum sized Suburban. Whether it's a left over 1987 or one of the new 1988s doesn't make any difference to you. What does though, is which one? 1988 Pontiac LeMans 1987 Buick Skyhawk T-Type 1987 Chevrolet Celebrity Eurosport VR 1987 Chevrolet Sprint Turbo 1987 Dodge Charger 1987 Dodge Lancer Shelby 1987 Do…
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A fitness thread... Anyways I know that many of our members who are active on the forum are also some fitness freaks...and I should also consult a doctor on what I should do/go to reddit, but I realized that this place is much better in terms of the variety of folk we have here. So guys right now I am a size 34 waist on my pants & shorts. I'd like to be able to fit in my size 28-30 pants like I could just 15 months ago... I went out for a light jogging/walk the other day. Now I haven't done any kind of jogging/running for a long time...maybe like 6 months. The day before yesterday was when I did my jog. I would do intervals. I realized like I fe…
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Just recently, I went to look at the fresh new car version of a car I have rented. I wanted to see the sticker, sit in it, check visibility, yada yada. The kid helping me was really nice and I didn't want to take up much of his time. He added, "It sounds like you really want to drive this car." I told him, "Not today." We unlocked it, I sat in it, turned on the engine, and got a feel for the controls. I also looked at the trunk. That was all I needed. I also took a brochure. As I'm about to leave, he says, "If you've got a couple of minutes, there's someone I'd like you to meet." *Cue to leave, in my book* I told him that I didn't have the time and headed f…
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Haven't seen much memorable in the last week. Looking forward to Spring, this winter weather is hanging around too long...33 and flurries today. Saw a gold Chevy Express panel van with the license plate 'I DO HVAC'...clever call out to their occupation, presumably. Also saw a late model silver Subaru Impreza with lot of surface rust on the hood...odd.
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So, parents are away for an extended period of time. I try to drive their 2013 LaCrosse once every week or two just to move it around. Today something odd happened... started it up, and the first things I noticed is there was no gauge sweep and the animation for the LCD screen between the tach/speedometer was out of sync with the animation on the radio's screen. I figured, no big deal. I put the car in reverse, reverse camera comes on, sensors pick up that a girl is walking past the car on her way to the bus stop, everything is normal. I back up, shift into drive, and start going along my way. About a minute into the drive, the radio screen goes black, reboo…
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Happy Birthday @caddycruiser Good meeting you a few weeks ago, hope you have a good one.
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Holy crap, you know my day was made : just spotted a '59 Olds wagon, silver/ blue/ primer/ patch panels, motoring down U.S. Rt 1. No pic, damnit.
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• We bought our '11 Jeep Liberty in Feb of 2016, with 53K miles. Not a single problem to date, not a fancy vehicle, but everyone here likes driving it fine. Now has 80K. Going to keep it, my one son is it's regular driver. • Wife's 2009 Malibu LT was bought new. Between GM card cash, sale discount (1500), and a Cash for Clunker trade (4600), the $25K sticker came down to the low $17K's. It's been a very good little sedan, a few very minor things plus the normal maintenance. Currently has 127K on it. Other than a few dings and some curb rash on the pass-side alloys, it's in good physical shape. Mechanically it could use front struts. On to this morning... checked…
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Which car models do you think should sell better than they do? Why do you think they don't sell better? Limit of three models and must be in production (not just leftovers still on sale but not currently being built).
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... has the company built since Day 1?? Googled the question, saw one estimate of 500 million. Don't know if that source was GM or if GM even has an accurate count. Overseas markets and the confusion of partial brand ownership, etc in the latter half of the Company's history may make a comprehensive tally a challenge. All the years from the Sloan book referenced below are CALENDAR year sales. These numbers are less common than model year, and it makes the transition to those more readily-obtainable numbers inaccurate for that switch-over. 1909 : 32,311 (fiscal year ending 09.30.09 plus 3 months ending 12.31.09) ~ My Years with General Motors, Alfred P Sloan…
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Consumer Reports gets a lot of flak (a lot of it justifiably, some of it is not) for their ratings. Are there any websites that have actual repair statistics data for different models that accessible to general public?
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A thread about cars you used to not like and now like. Or. About cars you used to like but now dont like. I felt I needed to come back and write about a car. This is more written for @Frisky Dingo as we go back a long time and I felt I needed to tell him that as of today, I like the McLaren F1. I didnt like this car then, but I stumbled on Jay Leno's garage and instantly, I have feelings for it. Enough for me to try and buy a 1:18 scale of it to add it to my collection. I didnt need Jay Leno to tell me all that as I KNEW what the McLaren was all about... What I did NOT know was that it won Lemans 24 h…
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Okay, the last one didn't go over well. Maybe people didn't feel like they had enough to pick from. This one will rectify that. We will use new intro 2018 models this go-round, of which there are plenty! Rules- 1) New cars only, must be CONFIRMED for 2018 MY. No 2019's, no 2017's, no upcoming models that aren't official yet. 2) Choices must be either ALL NEW or SIGNIFICANTLY updated. 3) Maximum of 5 choices. 4) These are your only vehicles. That's it!!
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Not particularly exciting, but I did see a couple obscure ones this morning--a silver Isuzu Axiom and an orangey-red Suzuki SX4. Haven't seen examples of either in years...
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So the last few 'DG' threads got a little action, so here's a new one for you guys. A very simple, but challenging one. Only cars/trucks/SUV's that were discontinued/overhauled in for the 2018 MY are eligible. Rules- 1) Maximum of 5 choices 2) Only 2017 Model Year vehicles can be chosen 3) Your choices must have had 2017 be the last availability 4) Your choices must be models that received ALL NEW replacements in 2018, or were discontinued entirely 5) Any market is allowed 6) These are your only vehicles Enjoy!
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So wanted to try one of these for a while. Hope enough of you guys will participate. Choose up to four sports/pony/sporty/performance cars that you would buy with your OWN MONEY. Whatever you can realistically afford NEW or USED, one out of three - four choices you will present. Post picture of them in your favorite color.
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So, to expand on the first part of this, we are doing something a little different. In Part 1, you had a total to spend using the New Car Average Transaction Price multiplied to cover 5 vehicles. This round, you will be limited to a per car amount of $36,495. There is no limit to how cheap your selections can be, but they can't be any more than the average price. Rules- 1) Must be New cars on sale NOW 2017 or 2018 Model Year 2) Cars must be available in YOUR market 3) These are your only vehicles 4) You are granted 5 choices 5) I will allow ONE non-mainstream production car- motorcycle, trike, side-x-side, etc 6) MSRP can be NO MO…
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Okay, you probably all knew this one was coming. Yep, we're doing used cars this time. The eternal debate of new vs used will continue to rage, but there's no denying there are bombshell deals on the used market. Cars today depreciate faster than ever, and it puts awesome cars in tangible reach for a lot of enthusiasts. Whether you want a once 6 figure mega lux sedan, or an overlooked performance car that is a hidden gem, they are out there. Rules are simple- 1) USED cars only, must be 2017 MY or older. 2) Maximum of five choices. 3) These are your only vehicles. 4) Choices must be realistic. No crazy low priced scam listings, salvage title c…
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Some of them like "Burban" and "Vette" are fine by me, but others like "Elky" and "Maro" really annoy me. Hey, I know it isn't rational, but they rub me the wrong way. List yours up and down.
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Okay dudes, this place has been deader than a graveyard for a bit, so I thought I'd throw together something new for fun. Average transaction prices for a new cars in December 2017 was $36,495. Link The premise of this one is simple. You will have a garage to fill with new cars that must adhere to that average. Rules- 1) You must have 5 vehicles. 2) Vehicles must be New 2017 or 2018 MY on sale NOW. 3) Must be for sale in YOUR market. 4) Price is based off MSRP. 5) There is no limit to the individual prices- HOWEVER, you must keep the total amount spent less than $182,475 to keep the per car average at the $36,495 …
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Been super dead around here as of late it seems, So not sure how much action this will get. Do we still do the 'guess what I bought' game?? If so, any takers??
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LINK Discuss
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I am looking for a set of all-terrain tires on my 2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport. So far I have checked out Toyo Tires' Extensa HP. Does anyone have experience with it? Any other suggestions?
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It seems like many folks are either in a state of disbelief or a state of indifference with regard to the breaches, namely the Equifax breach, among others. So, 143 million were impacted and our population is now probably around 325 million. When you remove the under 21 crowd, the elderly on limited incomes who aren't doing much with credit, and folks who don't have much input into their credit reports because they don't use it, that's almost all Americans between 30 and 70. Their investigating the situation was big news at the very beginning but I haven't heard much about it. I don't believe that the company's stock took much of a hit. Then, on the heels of that…
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Cars like to hide when the weather gets brutal, gotta dig 'em out.
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I haven't seen many movies lately but the last one I saw was "The Commuter." Blame it on bargain Tuesday. I looked at the reviews and they were lukewarm. I went to see it and enjoyed it. It was sort of like "Unstoppable" (2010). It was probably also like "The Taking of Pelham 123," which I never saw. Has anyone seen it? The review said that it was predictable. I disagree. I didn't know who it could be until the very end. In fact, it's one of those movies you have to analyze backwards, sort of like film noir "Body Heat," where the pieces all make sense when looked at in the rear view mirror. If you've seen it, did you feel that more fleshing out of the d…
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OK, this is the current condition of these 2 rides. The finned wonder is my '59 Invicta, the other is my brother's '71 GTO 4-spd. I am head of him in the process: all metal work is completed and in epoxy primer, and the shell is back on the refurbished frame. Front & RR suspension is done, as is my rear axle. I also have a bunch of the new parts, and a bunch of cosmetically restored parts. My brother may or may not be done with metal repair- I think the floors still need work. Also, his frame is untouched yet, but there is a TON more repro parts available for the '71. He also has 2 lifts at his house We have an unofficial bet on which gets their car done first.…
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EV Trucks / SUVs Designs - New Revolution of Style? With the Detroit auto show and the new trucks and SUV's that are coming out, this had me thinking as many comments especially in regards to the car side has been about how HOMOGENIZED the auto style has become! We have the Pro ICE crowd, Pro EV crowd, Pro all of it crowd and with the discussions, it got me thinking about the fact of truck / SUVs style. It is not a question of if, but when we will see EV trucks / SUVs become part of the blend of options on the dealer lot. EV auto's offer a whole new range of style as unlike ICE auto's that must have the airflow for cooling, EV's are needing a different set …
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https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/articles/how-build-all-wheel-drive-gas-electric-hybrid-fier/?utm_source=ActiveCampaign&utm_medium=email&utm_content=How+to+Build+an+All-Wheel-Drive+Gas-Electric+Hybrid+Fiero&utm_campaign=GRMDaily
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Well, that was a fast year. Here are some of the things that happened in 2017: A new American President was sworn into office and found to be a truth-challenged, serial golfing narcissist whose primary goal appeared to be undoing all the achievements of his predecessor. His own crowning achievement was a windfall of wealth to corporate America and its officers at the expense of the lower and middle classes, future generations, and blue states. A series of hurricanes swept through the Gulf of Mexico and ravaged Florida, Texas, and Puerto Rico, resulting in hundreds of billions of dollars in damages. The country's deadliest mass shooting occurred in Las Vegas a…
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Auto Gauges, Manual, Digital, Are They Even Needed? Ran into a debate that was in multiple forums and even on Jalopnik that had editors and forum members debating the need of Auto Gauges and the type. Manual, Digital, Monitor screen, touch, etc. As such, what are your thoughts on the type of dash info you feel 21st century auto's should have?
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What are your New Year's Eve and New Year's Day Traditions? Since I am starting this off, I will tell you what Mine are, been the same for the last 26 years of Marriage. I am married to a Korean and they have very specific things that are done. We start off with a Korean Pot sticker making party in the first week of Dec. Make hundreds, people who help get some to take home, most are kept for use in what is called Korean New Year's Day Soup. We then start on the 26th and make a ton of homemade Beef broth with flank steak in it that is then shredded. We also make a wide variety of Korean side dishes from scratch. This takes multiple days as to why we …
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The talk in the 2019 Mercedes-Benz G-Class thread got me thinking about SUVs for me. I want something big and comfortable with lots of torque. Prefer CPO to have a warranty and not deal with severe depreciation. Should have a 6,000lb minimum tow rating (Not that I tow, but that rating requires a tongue weight rating of 600lbs which is needed for a Mototote) I like cushy rides. Thoughts are: Jeep Grand Cherokee with air suspension Escalade/Yukon/Tahoe SWB XC90 doesn't have a high enough rating, but I do like it. What else am I forgetting?
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I don't know that I have ever started one of these, but I didn't see a December edition. Parked my Charger between a Tesla Model S & a Fisker Karma.\ Then Friday saw a CT6 with a Chinese character badge on the trunk under a "4.0 T" badge.
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Time to sound off on what we have seen this final month of 2017. December Car Spotter thread. Start off by two auto's I really enjoyed checking out: My sisters 2017 Buick Premier II 2018 GMC Denali Canyon Duramax Diesel
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Happy Holidays to all this 2017! We have all had our take on the auto industry and much more this year, it has been one for the history books and it now looks to be the start of an industry changing year as the success of the Chevy Bolt, start of rough production for Tesla 3 and so many new options as the industry moves from cars to CUVs and an exciting Detroit auto show ahead of us. Just wanted to take a few minutes to say thank you to all that have made Cheers and Gears such an entertaining and awesome place to talk about the auto industry. Way too many people to thank each one individually but want to say; Happy Holidays and Happy New Year to you all!
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Be a good day to lounge about on a boattail, for sure. Although by '74, the boattail was clipped...
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The strangest of thoughts came to me today when I went to pick up my daughter from the bus stop this afternoon. It wasnt at the bus stop per se that this vision and thought popped into my head, but rather at the grocery store parking lot when we stopped to pick up a few items. What I saw is this: A shiny new fiery red Chevy Volt And parked right behind it, was an Acura Integra. Dont know what year it was as miniminal changes were made during its lifetime, I know the front clip was refreshed, and this particular car was of the pre-refreshed front clip...but my memory eludes me to when this happened so that is why I went with 1997. Sounds good whe…
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Hey guys, I have a buddy of mine who's typically a Chevy guy but he came across a 2012 F150 XLT EcoBoost. What I'm really looking for is are they reliable... I know it's kind of a loaded question but it's a little difficult to get some answers when Googling it because most that have 150,000 trouble free miles aren't the ones online posting about how reliable their truck is. The ones posting are the ones with premature issues. So, does anybody have any first hand or friends/family have first hand with any of that generation 3.5 EcoBoosts that have issues relating to the engine. AND/OR anybody that has put a lot of miles on their truck without issues. The truck in…
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I know you have an ongoing mower interest/hobby. I picked up a vintage mower ; a circa '55 Jacobsen Model 77 Rotary Disc. 2-stroke, aluminum deck, front corner discharge, 1.8HP. I'd like to sell it, any interest?
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Ya, it's the 16th already, but I had a boatload of sightings today. • white Lamborghini Huracan, slogging thru US Rt 1 traffic. • red Holden Commodore sedan with 'SAVE6MT' plate, slogging thru US Rt 1 traffic. • pale yellow '55 Cadillac hardtop coupe & white '60 Buick Electra 225 convert, sitting in rear of trucking yard looking forgotten. Must investigate further. • '62 Olds Cutlass convertible, 215 V8, buckets, floor shift auto, red w/ red interior, owned by customer & garage stored. 1 family owned, $3500 very good shape, no rust. • '54 Bentley 4-dr sedan, cream & burgandy, solid original, looked like a 1940 US vehicle, straight 6. Ugly. • This;…
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Hopefully the shock treatments you're enduring have alleviated your gas problem. We have not heard a lot about your natural gas issues recently, so I will assume you're all cleared up. Enjoy your day.
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"Grand Prix nose"- please; that's a Toronado! Or maybe a Plywoodanado? https://barnfinds.com/homegrown-citicar-1974-sebring-vanguard/
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Happy Gobbel Gobbel Day to all C&G Members and Guests! Wishing everyone a great relaxing day no matter who your with or where you are. I hope everyone can have some enjoyable relaxing down time around the world!
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Currently have a car up for auction. Was contacted by eBay member who wants to bid, but is in Sweden. Auction ad states $500 deposit due within 48 hrs, balance in cash when picking up car. This potential buyer has been on eBay since 2015, has a 100% positive feedback but it only numbers (4). He gave his name, same named person in Sweden has a FB page, there are a few pics of cars there; apparently he recently sold a '58 Lincoln. He asked/offered other ways of payment, asked about bank transfer or paying in full thru PayPal. - - - - - There's no way for an in-full payment thru PP to go awry, is there? If the money appears, I transfer it to my bank account,…
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I know, real exciting price range, right?!? Well, it came up in the Kia thread and it got me thinking what would I buy for 27k and 34k(because that's a very realistic price range for my next vehicle)? First I thought new then used.. Simple rules.. 4 total vehicles Two 27k vehicles New Used Two 34k vehicles New Used
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The Ferrari that crashed and burned Friday morning in north Fulton, critically injuring the two people inside, was a gift to the 18-year-old driver from has father. Channel 2 Action News reported that Akshay Panducherry, 18, of Alpharetta, who was burned over 80 percent of his body, was given the Italian sports car last week. His passenger, Harshavardhan Patlolla, 21, of Alpharetta was also critically injured. Alpharetta police spokesman George Gordon told the AJC that authorities initially got a call just before 4 a.m. about a possible brush fire on Webb Bridge Road near Alpharetta High School. “Unfortunately, when our police officers arrived on the scene, they disco…
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