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So, we did want gays in the military...just not ours. -------- Pentagon Confirms It Sought To Build A 'Gay Bomb' Jun 8, 2007 9:03 pm US/Pacific (CBS 5) BERKELEY A Berkeley watchdog organization that tracks military spending said it uncovered a strange U.S. military proposal to create a hormone bomb that could purportedly turn enemy soldiers into homosexuals and make them more interested in sex than fighting. Pentagon officials on Friday confirmed to CBS 5 that military leaders had considered, and then subsquently rejected, building the so-called "Gay Bomb." Edward Hammond, of Berkeley's Sunshine Project, had used the Freedom of Information Act to obtain a copy of …

Stupid killers/personal trainers. I signed up for the "personal fitness evaluation" at my new gymnasium, and had my session last evening. Today I am typing with my left incisor because I cannot move anything else. I hope I don't make any mistakes tiping. He said his goal was to make me hate him at the end. He achieved his goal. Ben Gay, you are my loved one.

We all have those movies we've seen several times over. Here's my list: James Bond movies Diamonds Are Forever - 11x On Her Majesty's Secret Service - about 7x Live and Let Die - about 7 x Moonraker - about 7 x For Your Eyes Only - about 7 x View To a Kill - about 4 x The World is Not Enough - approx 4 x Eddie Murphy Beverly Hills Cop - the original - 5 x (opening chase scene only - forward and reverse - about 20x) Trading Places - about 5 x Other Body Heat - 9x - I had to see it a second time to unravel the intricacy of the plot...and then I got hooked. Don't leave the room/theater in the last 15 minutes for the "yearbook scene." Which movies qualify you a…

I do an awful lot of thinkin' about cars throughout the course of my day.... I'm always boring Marcia with my "if I ever have the money..." and "wouldn't it be cool if..." type comments about cars. Anyway I just think there are many important questions out there that I need to answer during the course of my life. Here's a short list off the top of my head, thirteen to be exact since it's a lucky number. You are about to enter the empty space known only as: "Sixty8Panther's Brain" 1. How much money will it take to realize my dream of having a 30s Hot Rod powered by a radial aircraft engine? …

Each supercenter -- the only big box Wal-Mart builds these days -- means, on average, 300 retail jobs with a strong company. "It's the No. 1 reason" towns cite for approving construction of a Wal-Mart, said Al Norman, a critic who's been talking about Wal-Mart across the country for 17 years. "They tell me, 'Yeah, we have to bend zoning laws. Yeah, it's going to make neighbors unhappy. But it's creating jobs.' " And in the beginning, jobs do come, at least at ground zero. Immediately, there are the 50 to 100 construction jobs, which last maybe a year. Then there are the 300 new retail positions at Wal-Mart. There may well be hiring at businesses nearby that offer th…

I'm sure you all have read O. C.'s thread "So my boyfriend is moving in ..." many of you gave great insight to his plight. So my question is this, How many of you that have committed to another person, has ever cheated on that person? By cheating I mean had sexual relations, with another person, that wasn't the one you committed to? If you have, did you own up to it, or will you take that secret to the grave? I will say this for me, before I got married, I was the biggest male whore on the planet, after I got married I have not cheated "done the dirty deed as it were with someone other than my wife", doesn't mean I have not thought about it, talk about it, or even dre…

So I've been hit twice by the curse in two weeks.... My son has wrecked the Miata TWICE. First time, he ran off a dark road when he missed a curve...hit a concrete culvert and ripped the front suspension out from under the car as he entered a bean field, broke the motor mounts, and twisted the cradle. Called in a favor from a friend of mine who owns a body shop, had the front suspension replaced with a front suspension from a clean 66,000 mile donor car which we got for next to nothing...paid cash for the repair so my son's insurance wouldn't go up, he is going to pay me back. Sooo...got the car back from the body shop Saturday, got an alignment, car drives much bette…

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Obviously this is still in the early phases of discovery, maybe the elephant fields don't pan out: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=120966523&ft=1&f=1001 We'll see what happens.

This guy is my hero. He is absolutely insane. Trying to sell a Senate seat, hustling a children's hospital, comparing himself to Ghandi, the list goes on and on. I applaud the voters of my home state for electing a delusional narcissist governor, it makes for amusing television.

Please discuss your opinions.... it is basically a new version of the Bible for Goths and for the whole green movement... I don't really know if care one way or the other about this, but hey this guy is just jumping on the bandwagon about the whole environmental friendly stuff with everyone else I bet these versions will probably sell. They even have pretty pictures in these books. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.p...toryId=97537385

Question for C&Gers. How do you personally define being a man? Just read an interesting book about boys which had as a Thesis that boys today lack positive male role models and have trouble defining what it means to be a man. The book got me thinking. So: How do you define being a man? To our younger members-do you find a lack of older men that you look up to? Do you agree or disagree with the idea that there are few positive male role models? Do you think todays definition of manhood is different than your fathers? To our gay members-a serious question-how do young gay teens/young gay adults adjust to manhood? Do you think manhood is defined differentl…

Okay, so I want to get the Zeta bits all in one place but I'm sure I don't have everything right. So correct me where I'm wrong. Zeta - Approved for production: Chevrolet: The Camaro Pontiac: The G8 Buick: Lucerne Replacement Cadillac: DTS replacement Zeta - Cancellations: Chevrolet: *The Impala, or a "large Chevrolet sedan" -- Has been rumored since 2005-ish, but was possibly shelved then/possible FWD replacement revealed in the UAW documents/Finally killed for sure by Lutz. This was an official program, right? After all it was assigned a code. Or was it just a design study? Pontiac: *G8 Sportwagon -- Was never officially greenlighted or announced an…

I love most food. I don't like the following: Any meat you have to work (ribs) or that is too red, but love tri-tip, sirloin and London Broil, for example Any fish you have to work (mussels, clams, crab), but love swordfish, halibut, and shark, for example Hate pecan pie Can't tolerate any spicy cuisines like Thai, Indian or Ethiopian - guaranteed to be "out of commission" in 2 hours, but like Cantonese Chinese and Japanese What are specific food items or cuisines you won't eat?

I'm sure some of you are aware that from time-to-time GM performance parts develops packages for past models to increase performance legally. The kits meet all federal requirements just as the original equiptment did. Installling them voilates no regulations as they are engineered by the OEM to meet all standards. My idea is that GM (and all OEMs for that matter) should develop retrofit kits of this sort to allow existing cars and trucks to run on alternative fuels. This would further the cause of getting alternative fuel infrastructure up and running by expanding the customer base much faster. The government could help by removing any regulatory roadblocks that migh…

We had the Engineering Employment EXPO over the past three days here at U of I, and I talked to several different companies. The only three automotive companies that were there though were Honda, Toyota, and Ford. I talked to all three, but Honda said they don't hire anyone who doesn't have at least a status of sophomore, and Ford said it was hard to get a job as a freshman. Toyota, however, seemed to be pretty interested in anyone who wanted to go into the Automotive field. GM didn't come for some reason (even though their website said they were coming) so obviously I didn't get to talk to anyone from GM. I also talked to Cummins (seemed somewhat interested), Caterpill…

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/3zb64y6Nvs0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> I forget which news channel I saw this on. CNN?

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Coming out of my neighborhood this morning saw a sharp bright red w/ black vinyl top '69 Camaro Z/28. In the parking lot down at the beach I saw this silver w/ black top '71/72 Chevelle SS..

Wow its been so long since I've been on these boards. Getting ready to end my deployment and come home. It seems GM has changed quite a bit, has quite a few problems at its feet, but I think it will recover. Thinking of getting a new car when I get home. undecided between a G8 GXP Camaro SS or Corvette

So the wife and I began to do some car shopping, basically test driving the cars she's interested it to see what she thinks. Here's the list of cars she's test driven in the past two weeks: 1. Buick LaCrosse FWD Leather (her favorite so far) 2. Buick Regal FWD (she's not a fan, I like it! The 2.0L turbo 4 cyl is a rocket engine in this car) 3. Buick Verano Leather (too small for both of us, nice car, just not her cup of tea) 4. Buick Encore FWD Leather (surprisingly, she's no longer interested in the Encore, likes the exterior look but not the interior styling) 5. Chevy Impala 2LT (her second favorite, was quite impressed with the amount of features for the price) …

Last Saturday for lunch I went and checked out a new sushi restaurant in town. I like my sushi spicy, so when I spotted a three-roll spicy combo on the menu, I knew what I wanted. Except... one of the rolls was octopus, and I am scared of octopus. Tuna and salmon are lovely though. I asked the lady if I could substitute an extra salmon roll for the octopus. She said, in a heavy accent, "no substitution". I reluctantly said "OK", and she went up to the bar and turned in my order. Two minutes later she came back to my table and said "sorry, we out of octopus, is OK two tuna roll?" WTF?

He had a peaceful passing. See you all in a few days.

I normally post “Cheers and Jeers,” my end-of-year wrap-up post late on New Year’s Eve or early New Year’s Day. This year, I found myself in the hospital for most of the past week as my first child was born at the end of the year in circumstances that were later and more difficult than expected, and hence this post had to wait a week until mom and baby daughter were resting well at home, and they are doing fine now. So on with the festivities, and I hope everybody has been having a Happy New Year so far. Twenty ten was a year that continued to be filled with doom and gloom, with occasional peeks of sunshine to be smothered with dark gray clouds again as the jobless rec…

* Instead of just listing all vehicles you've had, make two lists: vehicles owned as "daily drivers" vs vehicles owned for "fun" My lists... ...DAILY DRIVERS (6) 1979 Monte Carlo Landau (October 1992 - December 1993) (January 1997 - September 1997) (June 2003 - July 2003) 1988 Monte Carlo LS (December 1993 - January 1997) 97 "malibu" (September 1997 - October 1999) 00 "monte carlo" LS (October 1999 - June 2003) 1987 Monte Carlo LS (July 2003 - November 2009) 1979 Caprice Classic (November 2009 - present) [1989 Caprice Classic OR 2011 Dodge Charger (??)] ...FUN (5) 1979 Monte Carlo Landau (September 1997 - present) 1976 Monte Carlo Landau (Decemb…

My local (literally right around the corner from where I live), small-time Buick-Pontiac-GMC dealer is closing per GM, at least that's what I was told today by the business manager. About a month ago, I noticed the inventory of older cars & trucks stored in the back of the dealership were missing. Then I noticed the used car inventory became smaller and smaller each passing week; the new vehicle inventory didn't seem to get any larger either (I noticed that the 4 G8 GT sedans they received apparently are their last new car deliveries; only one sold, the other 3 are still there with AMP stickers on them for $3k each ). Then on Saturday as I was passing the dealer…

Minicars have stepped up their game in recent years. If you were looking at this class for your next new vehicle, which one would you choose? Fiat 500? Scion iQ? (done after the '15 model year) Chevy Spark? Ford Fiesta? Honda Fit? Smart FourTwo? Any others you can think of in this class? I think I would have to go with the 2016 Chevy Spark 2LT, with manual transmission, in Titanium or Kalamata. The new Spark has grown up big time, with a more mature look inside and out, and some unexpected features for this class. I expect some will say "buy something bigger that is a few years old", or "I'd rather walk than drive any minicar", but just for the sak…

It wore my little ass out messing around with all this. Those longterm weather forecasters appear to have been correct this year.

With all the (some would argue: overblown) current [no pun intended] attention on electric vehicles, might be interesting to acknowledge some past efforts. In the very early days of the industry, they met with considerable success, at the detriment to gasoline-powered vehicles, sales-wise. But there were a whole slew of occasional proposals, some which were merely concepts, some which were intended to but never saw production, others which eked out a small run. The '74-77 CitiCar : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citicar

He traded in his two 2006 Chrysler Grand Cherokees (wife and his) for two Toyota RAV4s. This is a person who always bought Chrysler. I asked why, he wrote back, I never thought I would buy a foreign car, but it was just a better deal ... I have taken him off my e-mail list ...

Does your viewpoint on whether or not GM should get a bailout have to do with your love for GM products or do you truly think it will be better for the automobile sector and the economy of 300+ million people? I still havent heard all the sides but im leaning to letting the private enterprise deal with its problems with private enterprise funds. What about yourself?

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It's been a while since we've polled on this...and we usually do it in poll form. So without a poll, pick ONE car color that you could apply to any and all of the cars you like. You can pick: ( a ) color, ( b ) basic depth - light, medium or dark, ( c ) metallic or enamel No need to describe your back-up...just ONE. My pick: Light Metallic Blue Why that choice? Both of the Cutlass Supremes and the Camaro I had were this color. I think it worked on all the cars I've owned, or would consider owning. Unfortunately, Glacier Blue Metallic was no longer a 2008 offering on LaCrosse, or I would have picked it. Why the poll? I went to my local B-(P)-C-GM and …

My oldest son has been discharged from the USMC and is now back home. He's looking for employment in the law enforcement field and will need basic transportation. His mom and I are trying to help him get on his feet and have about $2k to spend on a car. Prior to entering the USMC in January, 2013, he had a 1998 Buick Regal LS that he loved. He asked me to find him another Buick Regal, if possible. I also found a 2002 Saturn SL2 nearby. Looking for feedback and insight on the following three cars: http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5928107734.html http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/5943857333.html http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/cto/5920…

It looks like a bunch of us have bought new cars lately and as we get closer to a big event, I would like to include our own purchases in a write up I'm going to publish. So if you would please: List any and all new vehicles purchased while being a member of C&G. Certified Pre-Owned from the same manufacturer's dealer is cool too, just mark the car with (CPO). If you have a family/friend member that bought a new car and selected partially from your recommendation, include that car too and include the relationship to you. For example: Myself 2004 Cadillac CTS (New) Mother 2009 Ford F-150 King Ranch (CPO) Co-Worker 2005 Pontiac Vibe (New)

I have a friend nice lady but somewhat well dingy I would say and she is getting new or slightly used luxury CUV/SUV. She has enlisted my help to help her look and decide upon one. She basically has narrowed it down to four CUV's... I suggested the Lincoln MKX (said no) Caddy SRX (said no) and also the Buick Enclave (said no and it was too big). My friend likes image and the Cadillac nor Buickish/Lincoln image prolly appeal to her. Can't make her buy one. The options... Given this list what would you guys suggest/buy for yourself if you had too in order... -2007-2008 Lexus RX-400H AWD -2007-2008 Lexus RX-350 AWD -2007-2008 Porsche Cayenne V6 AWD -2007-2008 Aud…

After a year with my Colorado I am ready to get something with more comfort and power. I have been looking at getting a LT Crew cab 4x4, I am not sure if the 6.0 is worth the extra money. I know people who say the 5.3 has more than enough but a few ppl who have the 6.0 and say they would never have the 5.3. I guess the question is: What will I miss more, the extra couple grand or the extra 52 HP?

Ive been visiting Canadian Tire a lot lately. But with good reason. Its been a place to see hot cars in the parking lot. Ferrari 812 Superfast I asked permission to photograph his car. A young guy. In his 40s. WHAT A SOUND THIS THING MAKES!!! Ferrari V12s are AWESOME!!!

They say when a deal sounds too good to be true, it often is. 2002 Bravada with AWD, 57k miles, leather heated seats, sunroof, CD, $7,995 Opinions?

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Any of the mods have the scoop or are we still "flying blind" on this topic? Maybe he bought that Jaguar after all and ended up in the poor-house as a result of the repair bills, or perhaos mental hospital for same basic root causes? I've got a few Jaguar hood ornaments amongst the hundreds of emblems I've collected over the years. That's all the Jaguar I need. I'd love to see my old '76 LeSabre featured in the "Project Car Chronicles". Saddly I do not even know if Fly still owns the car.

...with my friends here at C&G: (the wife says I'm jumping the gun announcing this so soon, but I have to admit I'm excited!!)

Spotted a 2001 Dodge Dakota on the way over to the inlaws this evening. $6995 which I'm sure can be negotiated down. 113k miles 3.9 liter 5-speed 4x4 standard cab Good/Bad/ugly about these?

This weekend I went and did some shopping for some wheels and I finally got some. 1972 Piper 2+2 140D I'm still in the process for my license. I'm having the owner fly it down to a local airport and im going to have it cleaned inspected and fixed up at Selfridge and see if i can get some hook ups and store it there for free, but we will see. I was at the airport at the right time and i was looking at it and the owner walked up and said it was for sale. We talked and I said I would fill it up if he took me for a ride and we flew around for a couple of hours and the plane seems strong for a 140 and really easy to fly so I bought it for abo…

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I got home the other day after work and fed my neighbor's cat out back on the deck. My neighbor is sitting on his deck, indian style, getting a herr cut from his wife and he says... "hey did you check out our driveway?" I'm like "no, what's up?" "My wife got a new car. She traded the Escape on a Yaris. We're a Toyota family now" (he's the guy who bought the xB I posted about a while back). Sure enough... a black Yaris 3 door is in their driveway. He says to me, "we think you should get one." So now I have to pack up and move. :AH-HA_wink:

Does anyone know what 2014 GMC Sierra is on display at the Chicago Auto Show? The Philadelphia Auto Show had a Stealh Gray Metallic on display, while mystik posted a Quicksilver one on display at the Houston Auto Show. I believe an Onxy Black All Terrain Sierra was on display at the NAIAS, not sure if any other colors were shown there.