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Finances dictate that we consider a small, fuel-efficient vehicle if we go new (depending on the incentives GM offers and if I'm part of the pull-ahead program with my lease this month). Feel free to post your explanation after you vote, if you'd like.

Information: http://www.geocities.com/conceptcarcentralusa/sagebrush.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just found this concept online today. I have never seen it in person, unfortuantely. Apparently this made the rounds on the 1991 auto show circuit to highlight the soon-to-be-release/all-new 1992 GMC Yukon 2-door. This isn't in any of the GMC books I have, and I find that disappointing. Has anyone here ever seen this truck before? This and the 1991 GMC Rio Grande concept/showtruck were shown together and shared development and parts.

Going to be in both Raleigh and Charlotte about a month from now. What are they like? Are they similar or dissimilar? What's there to do? I've heard that North Carolina is a beautiful state. I've only been near Raleigh for a wedding while I was living in Atlanta. I know I liked Atlanta.

That I'll be able to order a new El Camino SS fairly soon. But, I'm thinking that I'll probably hold-off until the second production year. With all of the drivetrain advances happening so fast lately, I have a feeling that an engine upgrade will happen in the second or third year. Opinions? Other ideas/concerns? Another factor is that I'd like to be able to pay cash for it and I'll need some time to make that happen.

After about a month of serious "I want an Enclave", the car talk from my mother died down. Then at Thanksgiving, I picked up an '07 Malibu 1LT 4-cyl and had it for a month while my Cadillac was being repaired post-accident...and the new frumpy mobile spurred a whole new family conversation. Why? First trip I made in it, after being very impressed by the general build quality, refinement, and performance, I got an easy 37.0mpg highway doing 70-80. Owning an LT1 Fleetwood, that essentially dumbfounded me, and I praised the car and its gas sipping (but very zippy) 2.2L everyday I had it. I could definitely see how it wasn't greatly reviewed (the '04-07 is built well an…

Holy smokes! can it get any hotter around here? It's like 83 at almost midnight.... That's like a high, normally..... Anybody notice this heat wave? Whew! *wipes sweat off forehead*

Okay guys (and gals?), it happened again. I bought another vehicle. Those of you who have known me a long time from MT know I always post a guessing thread, so without further a due...... First hint- It is primarily for me, and it didn't directly replace one of my other vehicles. Have fun!

I did not know where to post this topic. Mods feel free to re-assign the topic. I was always curious about why members chose the call sign for cheers and gears. While some are obvious, others can be a bit more cyptic, while others use just their name. It would be fun to find out a bit more about the C & Gers. I will start off with my sign in name and it's easy once you see my prferred mode of transportation. PrinzSD Prinz = part of my last name Prinzivalli SD = the famed and best motor Pontiac made, the legendary Super Duty 455, hence SD.

I just bought a KICKASS pair of taillights for my Camaro. I figured I'd share. http://rksport.com/image?product_id=01019328&size=full LMAO! Just kidding on that. Those things are ugly as hell... I got these: Oh, and I also got silver fillins for the rear where it says CAMARO. My rear end is like done now except for the SS spoiler that I should be getting near Christmas time...

Look at these QUALITY TOYOTA's! Wow it even has flexable frame... That much cost extra... High quality tailgates on the new Tundra's what a great QUALITY truck...

Forbes Magazine's least safe 2007 models in no particular order: Toyota Corolla sedan without optional airbags Chevrolet Cobalt sedan without optional airbags Ford Focus sedan Mazda3 sedan Suzuki Aerio sedan with side airbags Suzuki Forenza sedan with side airbags Saturn Ion http://www.forbes.com/home/2006/10/30/safe..._1031lsafe.html

Not the best color really. Looks much better in the "Deep Black."

Hey guys, so it is getting to be that time where I should start getting ideas of which car to purchase as my first one. I am turning sixteen in a few months (when I get my permit; a little early to look, yes, but it doesn't hurt), and I need to get a job, haha. I have about 1800 in the bank (not too terrible for someone my age) and I need to be able to afford insurance plus the car. Does anyone have a good idea of a cheap, reliable car that is also sporty and fuel-efficient (at least twenty-two mpg)? Thanks in advance, your guys' opinions really help!

Just recently, I went to look at the fresh new car version of a car I have rented. I wanted to see the sticker, sit in it, check visibility, yada yada. The kid helping me was really nice and I didn't want to take up much of his time. He added, "It sounds like you really want to drive this car." I told him, "Not today." We unlocked it, I sat in it, turned on the engine, and got a feel for the controls. I also looked at the trunk. That was all I needed. I also took a brochure. As I'm about to leave, he says, "If you've got a couple of minutes, there's someone I'd like you to meet." *Cue to leave, in my book* I told him that I didn't have the time and headed f…

Camino is now happy.

I really do. Wednesday and Thursday, I was thoroughly enjoying New York City. It was quite a spontaneous trip. Before Monday, I was just planning on my usual "ass sitting exercises". A friend of mine asked me to go and was going to pay my way. How could I refuse? Come Tuesday night, I got picked up to be ready for our flight in the morning. By 11 am Wednesday, I was in the city and would be there until 9 pm Thursday. It didn't give me much time for sight seeing, as he was mainly there to look for an apartment, but I got to enjoy Times Square and the surrounding area. The rest, I would simply call experiences rather than enjoyment. Like the Subway, the poorer sections o…

Sadly, I attended my last car show for the 2009 calendar year. The All Pontiac Show and Go, sponsored by High Performance Pontiac Magazine and held at Old Bridge Raceway Park in Englishtown (Manalapan), NJ, was originally scheduled for the day before father's day (Saturday) back in June but was rained out, so the car show was heldyesterday (10/25). Attached are some of the Pontiac photos I took...

Well, A Quick Check of AutoTrader shows GSL Chev City has already turned around our old 2005 Venture for sale... I don't know... something about seeing an ad for the thing just gives me a feeling in the pit of my stomach, my dad too incidentally, anyway, I'll take this opportunity to share the last pictures I'll likely ever see of the damn thing ( ) http://showrooms.canadatrader.com/showroom...amp;Pagecount=1

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TRACK LISTING: That Was Just Your Life The End Of The Line Broken, Beat & Scarred The Day That Never Comes All Nightmare Long Cyanide The Unforgiven III The Judas Kiss Suicide & Redemption My Apocalypse ALBUM ART: Almost has a death metal feel to it... Which is a very good thing IMO.

So, this Carbon Motors (http://www.carbonmotors.com/) E7 police vehicle is supposed to be built from the "ground up" as a completely new vehicle. So, why doe it look so much like a Chrysler 300?? It almost looks like they got plans for the next, slightly more aerodynamic, 300? Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/09/carbon-...-e7-police-car/

By Buck Wolf Men of the world, rejoice! The average length of an erect penis is shorter than you probably think. A study by Lifestyles Condom Co. shows that the average length of a male sex organ is 5.877 inches — which might comfort men who previously thought they were less than average. "The Kinsey Sex Report and other penis size surveys have indicated that the length of the penis is 6.2 to 6.4 inches," says Simon Joseph, a spokesman for Lifestyles. "Our results show that about three-quarters of men fall under the average quoted by Kinsey." "A half-inch or less might not have anything to do with how you perform sexually, but it might make a difference in how you fee…

C&D just wrapped up another instrumented test, this time on the A8L. The A8L 4.0T Sport, to be exact. As it mentions in the article, the A8 sits in an interesting spot in the marketplace. AWD only, but still much cheaper than some rivals, it nevertheless has compelling performance and luxury. Here's the test for those interested- http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2016-audi-a8l-40t-sport-test-review As always, you will have from 10% below base price to 10% over as-tested price to spend on a similar-ish new vehicle. Base price- $91,425. As-tested- $96,175. Rules- 1)Must be a NEW, on-sale production vehicle. 2)Must be a similar vehicle- i…

C&G IRC Introduction Before major updates, C&G had a chat function that was great for our members to communicate in real time about anything be it topics on the forum, or just shooting the breeze. It was especially handy if you need to give directions or ask/answer quick questions. However, that function was unstable, and caused plenty of problems. However, there is a way to talk with members using Internet Relay Chat which is a tried and true method for e-talking over the the large series of tubes called the Internet. All it requires is a 'client' and a little finagling to get set up and running. Many IRC clients exists, and they all do the same things but …

The P-Mate enables women to urinate upright September 19, 2005 The P-Mate is disposable paper device which enables women to urinate easily while standing up. It is in common usage in Europe since launching four years ago and is marketed as a convenient, hygienic, portable, leak proof, discreet, no-brain solution to the bad sanitary and problematic circumstances which continually confront women, particularly at mass gatherings. The P-Mate has become an entrepreneurial success story in Holland where Moon Zijp conceived the P-Mate while traveling in Indonesia, designed it at the Academy of Arts in Amsterdam and commercialised it to national and global acclaim as a clever …

H3 'Monster HUMMER' Completes Landmark Run at Dakar For the unfamilar, the Dakar Rally is not so much a rally as it is an endurance race that traditionally originated in Paris and ended in Dakar, Senegal over some of the most unforgiving terrain in the world. Recently, the starting locale has varied, but has mostly originated in continental Europe. There are three classes of competition - Motorbike, truck (large offroad vehicles), and car. Perennial leaders like the Mitsubishi Pajero, Land Rover, and Mercedes G-Wagen compete in the car class. Likewise, the HUMMER H3 competed alongside. The Dakar Rally is comprised of fifteen individual stages. Robby Gordon - with h…

They will have nothing left to sell to me anytime soon. The only candidates will be: Corvette: too expensive Camaro: cool, but not individual enough for my taste A Chevy truck: I won't need one until at least 2015 And that's it. Nothing else comes anywhere close to what I'd buy.

The guy that was buying the Silverado showed the agreement we were going to have notarized to his lawyer. As lawyers do, he scared the guy right out of a perfectly good deal. I hate the times we live in.

http://www.fiaformulae.com/en.aspx Is the competition any good? It's basically F1-ish cars but with electric engines. I haven't had the chance to watch any races yet but it does sound interesting. I wonder how the cars compare with F1cars.

The seventies are much miligned as are cars from the era. Lets look back and see what all the fuss was, say 1975. First, let's take a look at the Mercury Bobcat.

Well, the current 'house arrest' scenario across the country is going to force folk to amuse themselves in new ways, perhaps trying something new or different. So this here thread might be a spot to post up some 'projects' people are working on, even if little stuff, to pass the time productively. I had this '50s school desk for prob 12 years now- came from a garage clean-out. Super clean, but I advertised it a few times and took it to a swap meet a few years ago- plenty look but there's no takers. So (because it's not built for adult-sized humanoids) I tossed the top and cut the steel post off, now I have a lil shop chair. It's not too low for adult humanoids to si…

And what can you tell me about it?

-Variance March 1, 2007 Welcome to C&G’s Registry Rundown, a new monthly Feature Article rife with information and speculation. Here, yours truly will be reporting on the goings on within the records of the United States Patent and Trademark Office, bringing you the newest trademark applications made by auto manufacturers. Newly filed applications, ones published for opposition, finalized/fully registered and killed trademarks will all be covered. Here’s a quick explanation of each level of trademark registry, from the least to most likely to be seen used on a production product or concept car: Dead: This is the official USPTO term for a trademark that will not …

Well since I've just about squeezed blood out of a rock wiht the 4 door hardtop thread I figured it was time to finally get around to a 2 door hardtop Thread. If you don't like the thread, great... move on. But if you do post some of your favorites. It's always nice to share personal favorites. I'm going to kick this thread off wihtthe crazy oddballs. Japanese Hardtops, mostly from the late 1960s to the mid 1970s. Some of these you might not have ever seen others you may not ever even known existed. Once we get these kooky Jalopies out of the way we can move on to the 70s domestic land yachts, 60s mucle cars & 50s finned wonders. All with pillarless hardtop greenh…

I am in love! This is like the coolest obtainable 1930s "survivors" on ebay ever. LINK ---> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1931-PONTIA...1QQcmdZViewItem YOU ARE LOOKING AT A VERY SOLID 1931 PONTIAC 2 DOOR SEDAN, IT RUNS AND DRIVES VERY NICELY.... IT HAS HAD A VALVE JOB, AND BRAKES DONE RECENTLY.... THE TIRES ARE IN LIKE NEW CONDITION, AND THE SPARE TIRE IS IN THE BACK SEAT, NEW NEVER BEEN MOUNTED..... OVERALL SHEET METAL IS RUST FREE, THE BLACK SPOTS WERE JUST RECENTLY DONE TO PROTECT MINOR SURFACE RUST FROM GETTING WORSE...... THIS CAR USED TO BE A TAXI CAB IN ARGENTINA, AFTER BEING BROUGHT BACK INTO THE STATES, IT HAS HAD VERY LITTLE MILE…

My girlfriend and I are going to be heading down to San Fran then LA at the end of June. We're going to fly into SF, stay about 4/5 days, rent a car and drive to LA, stay about 3/4 days, then fly back from there. LA I really don't know that much about. Where are the safe areas to stay? Is transit good enough to get around with down there, or should I keep the rental car for our days in LA? Also, what should we see? San Fran I think I can handle planning on my own, but any suggestions would be appreciated.

I see where CBS has stopped production of Two And A Half Men after Sheen's latest run off at the mouth. He's dumb. He's really dumb.

Sorry if a similar post is already up, but I need to know. What day are we all settled on, what time do we plan on meeting, exactly what spot? I think we should determine it by what day Detroit starts for the general public. But I have a feeling it's after LA is all done this year. Who has that info?

but I... (Microsoft) used Mac computers to make this ad. Sad but true. Really.

Looking at the fullsize pickups from the Big 3, I always thought the Ram was the biggest in all dimensions by a good measure, with the Ford looking the narrowest by a good shot. But, in reality, they're pretty close together in size: GM: 79.9 wide 73.6 high 205.6 long 4463 lbs Ford: 79.2 wide 74.8 high 213.2 long 4685 lbs Dodge: 79.4 wide 73.4 high 209 long 4519 lbs This is for shortbed regular cab 2WD versions.

Found a few design sketches for the C5 Corvette, the 4th-gen Camaro MCE, VUE, Sunfire GT, etc. while probing the web. Enjoy! C5 Vette: F4 Camaro MCE Proposal: VUE: Sunfire GT: Why didn't GM put this interior in the Sunfire? Link to where these came from: http://draganelmagda.blogspot.com/

Buick started it all in 1949...

Well, here we are, another month over. Spring is finally showing some muscle against Old Man Winter. It might be time to get out there and spot some cool or unusual vehicular conveyances. So... have at it, here in this thread!

Automotive paint schemes you like.... Loved the old red white and blue of the old AMC stuff.... I am still a sucker for 1950's two tone....and Ford Crown Vics. They look great as mild customs too! Perhaps my all time favorite car/color combination is the iris color Pontiac offered on the 1965 GTO! In my opinion, 65 GTO rates just behind the 1958-1962 Corvettes as just about the ultimate GM car ever.

So, I found some back up CD's from 2006. They contain a bunch of cool stuff from C&G past, as well as stuff from all over the internets. Most of this has been lost in the sands of time, so I think I will share some here. First up, is a repost from the "New GM" thread... Here is the Pontiac G6 we were supposed to get, before Bob Lutz had them simplify it! These pics come from the actual production G6 launch brochure: I made this image for C&G in '06 to show the pre-Lutz cues on the car we got: Here is a scan from GM Design showing the theme they were working on for the GMX295 program, aka 2004 Cadillac Seville. Bob Lutz ordered this car redone…

Who can post the worst exhaust system on a car...me first....

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/industr...-green-instead/ Well, it looks like my reality of not owning a new car and instead relying on classic is getting closer every hour.

You really are... especially when I you find out what this thread is going to be about. It's something that's been argued about, questioned, and casually talked about it... many, many times. It has been close to the point where it would be solved, yet after 6 car-sick months... It is again time for me to talk about what to get. Yes, even after I argued that I didn't want advice on what to get when I didn't ask for it. Well, I'm not really asking about it... I just want to talk about it again, and look all the wonderful choices I still have. *looking into my Favorites* Miata Focus Prelude Cougar Del Sol 3000GT 3000GT Eclipse Eclipse 240SX Grand Am SC2 325i …

From the world of YouTube music, I bring you another smash hit from questionable means: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvgJEznqtms&feature=player_embedded#! I can just see it now ... pure driving EXCITEMENT!!!!!! scooting across a TV screen ... probably black in color ... chorus comes in and pure driving EXCITEMENT!!!!!! does a skid on a wet track ... then Don LaFontane or James Earl Jones comes in with, "Feel fly in your G6 with this new attractive lease offer of $1400 down and $199 a month."

Pretty good show today. I tried to take pics of the older and unusual cars for the most part.

Flybrian's Random Car Showcase Presents... The 1956 Buick Centurion Through boredom and...well, just boredom, I bring you the second in likely many little 'diaries' of a completely random car. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1956 Buick Centurion Of all General Motors divisions, Buick was arguably the most prolific builder of concept cars. Perhaps it was the motiff of classic American style and attainability that destined the middle-luxury marque to be the showcase for some of the most beautiful automobiles never to be produced. Beginning with the very first dream car - the 1938 Y-Job - Buick took center stage at GM's famed Motorama and gave us all something to fantasize ab…

Do you guys have a good deal of interference with knowing many languages? I mean, I'm taking Spanish, it's my fourth language, and I'm just at wits end here... I'm spelling common words in English wrong and speaking Italian in class. I mean, I'm doing the basics such as writing: quale, quando, che, when it should be cuale, cuando, que, etc. I spelled photo on the scrabble board as foto. I can NOT get the accent down in Spanish at all. Then I get frustrated and curse at the professor in Italian. Fortunately, he finds it funny. Does it go away? I never had it this bad when I was learning French or Italian. And the worst.. I though it'd be easiest to relate ev…