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Please don't make me beg. Sit up and tell us if you've chased any cool cars lately.

Some of them like "Burban" and "Vette" are fine by me, but others like "Elky" and "Maro" really annoy me. Hey, I know it isn't rational, but they rub me the wrong way. List yours up and down.

See that? That's what I'm going to do with my virus-infested PC. Anyone here have any idea why I have to turn my computer off 3 times or more in order for the f@#king thing to boot up, or why when I use Google, it doesn't take me to, say, the Wikipedia page I wanted but websites with the names of "gooooosearch.com" or "breast-site.net?" I hate Windows. I've been trying for months to fix this, with no luck. I'm going to buy a Mac next. I can't stand Micro$h! anymore.

March is coming in like a lamb here in my corner of the world. A good bit of snow should melt off today. Looking forward to milder weather and seeing some cool vehicles on the road. Post your spots here, folks!

Camino and I floated the idea of a C&G-sponsored meet at the All-GM Nationals show in Carlisle, PA a couple of years ago that never got out of the planning stages. That idea, at least with me, is still on the back burner and I may try to do something for the 2010 show. But moving on... The AACA Museum in Hershey, Pennsylvania is a great place to visit and the GM Futurliner will be on display there starting mid-October and lasting until early Spring. Seeing as how the winter weather in the northeast prohibits car shows from happening, maybe a C&G meet at the AACA Museum would be a good way for some C&G members to meet, take a tour of the museum, have lunch…

Two Jeep Cherokees, one a '98 and the other a '94. Both supposedly run. Both supposedly have good titles. Both have an asking price of $850. I'm curious about the '98, that's what I'm hoping may be a diamond in the rough. I don't know what I would do with an extra Jeep sitting around, but whatever. I think I can deal with it. We'll see. I have the weekend to wait.

The Year Is: 1975 The year is 1975 and you're a salesman for the National Products Company, purveyor of only the finest items, objects and articles. Since your job requires visiting businesses for sales pitches and your current ride is a little hard to park... ...you decide a personal luxury coupe is befitting of a man of your obvious taste and refinement. The only question is, which one? Plymouth Fury Oldsmobile Toronado Mercury Cougar XR-7 Ford Thunderbird Lincoln Mark IV Ford Elite Dodge Charger Chrysler Cordoba Chevrolet Monte Carlo Cadillac Eldorado Buick Riviera AMC Matador Pontiac Grand Prix

• We bought our '11 Jeep Liberty in Feb of 2016, with 53K miles. Not a single problem to date, not a fancy vehicle, but everyone here likes driving it fine. Now has 80K. Going to keep it, my one son is it's regular driver. • Wife's 2009 Malibu LT was bought new. Between GM card cash, sale discount (1500), and a Cash for Clunker trade (4600), the $25K sticker came down to the low $17K's. It's been a very good little sedan, a few very minor things plus the normal maintenance. Currently has 127K on it. Other than a few dings and some curb rash on the pass-side alloys, it's in good physical shape. Mechanically it could use front struts. On to this morning... checked…

It's snowing. It has been all day. A LOT. A LOT more than expected. It won't stop. It just keeps coming and coming and coming. I had a "plan" today to get up, eat and leave for Philly/Jersey/etc. before it really started and because the forecast up there was better, drier, etc. After some issues, got rolling around 9:45, it was snowing & white here but dry about 5 miles from home, hit Wawa for coffee & kept going. Got to just past Milton on Rt. 1 north (for those of you who know DE beach area), the road all of a sudden turned wet & covered in brown salt then I saw I was a few cars back from a salt truck. I thought I could escape DE without getting the G8 crud…

I know next to nothing about what's out there for motorcycles. I'm in the process of getting my motorcycle license. My very good friend who I'd like to go riding with has this: A 2015 Ducati Streetfighter. While I think it's a hot bike, I also am certain it is not for me. I don't want to be hunched forward and I want to be able to put a passenger on the back. The bike I've admired for a while is the Yamaha Roadliner Midnight I like the bike, but want something a bit more sporty without going to the extreme of the Ducati Thoughts?

No way... is it July already? Seen any nice grills lately? Post your spots right in here.

But its from the sixties and from England, so you know its cool. Jaguar Mark X! English luxury... With American style... And American size... I really want one.

Summer, once again flying by in a blink. What have you seen out there? Let us know.

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With the introduction of the Car Of Tomorrow, Ford is staying with Fusion, Toyota is running Camry, Dodge switched to Avenger which is the smaller car that real-life competes with the others, why isn't Chevy going to Malibu instead of using Impala? Impala is just not the same class as the others. I know it is "large mid size" but come on... This would have worked if Dodge stayed with Charger, Ford moved to Taurus (which also doesn't work that well) and I don't know what Toyota would use, Avalon maybe? I know they are trying to stimulate sales of the Impala, and in a couple of years it will be more appropriate with rear drive coming back, but the new Malibu would ben…

I'm crazy about any carmakers ideas for possible manufacture or just as a design study. Some are wonderful and some are downright wacky. American Motors in the 60s: AMX concept: AMC Cavalier concept: American Motors design proposals, probably from the 70s/early 80s:

I love Eldorados and always will. I hope one day, Cadillac will bring back an excessive luxurious coupe, all soft and floaty, as only the Americans can do it. Vanity, thy name is Eldo. 1953 1954 1955

I'll start: 2007 Mercedes S-Class. Looks like an S500.

Stopped by a Delaware State Police Sobriety/Safety Check! How I've missed the Patriot Act! Living in the European Union I've forgotten what a police state the USA has become. State Police - I'm officer blah blah blah, we are conducting a sobriety/safety check! Me - Ohh? State Police - Yes, have you had anything to drink tonight? Me - Yes. State Police - What were you drinking? Me - Water. State Police - Looks to see if I have my seat belt on and then asked, Where did you just come from Sir? Me - How is that question related to a sobriety/safety check? State Police - Face gets bright red. Then asks Where are you going to Sir? Me - Again, How are thes…

Lance is Gay Who would have thunk it!

All of the rancor and accusation, lies and half truths, posturing and pronouncing are drawing to a close. About 24 hours from now we should have a pretty good idea who will be piloting the Titanic for the next four years. Let's all wish him well - he faces the tallest order of troubles of any new President since FDR. And, let's wish ourselves well while we are at it - it's going to be a tall order for us as well. New horizons without a doubt.

Here's mine 1. Vue 2. CX-7 3. RAV (even though i hate its looks) 3. Outlander 3. Torrent (only due to GXP) 6. Equinox 6. Escape / Mariner (hybrid and v6 help) 8. CRV 9. Grand Vitara 10. Forester

When I was out to pick Albert up from work this evening, I saw a first generation Neon drive by... and thought to myself..."Wow! It's been a while since I've seen one of those!" Not that I like the Neon at all, but they were once incredibly common and I hardly ever see that version. I see similar vintage Cavaliers, Sunfires, and Escorts all the time.... What cars have you noticed aren't around much anymore?

Is there anything good in your boss' vision of the new GM? Seriously, where are his "gotta have" products? We've yet to see anything worth talking about. Is it really all about bland, midsize FWD sedans? Surely there must be something.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8299079.stm What happened to global warming? By Paul Hudson Climate correspondent, BBC News Average temperatures have not increased for over a decade This headline may come as a bit of a surprise, so too might that fact that the warmest year recorded globally was not in 2008 or 2007, but in 1998. But it is true. For the last 11 years we have not observed any increase in global temperatures. And our climate models did not forecast it, even though man-made carbon dioxide, the gas thought to be responsible for warming our planet, has continued to rise. So what on Earth is going on? Climate change sceptics, who passi…

Hey gang, I just want to say good-bye. What's it been 5, 6 maybe 7 years now that I've been known as AH-HA. Not a bad run for keeping an identity a secret. Well, those days are over. My name is Joe Langley and I'm an analyst with CSM Worldwide. Before that I had my own automotive information and research consulting practice and before that I worked for Standard & Poor's DRI as an auto analyst. I've had a lot fun over the years sharing my enthusiasm for this indsutry and cars in general. I've also been fortunate enough to exchange messages with a lot of great people over the years. I'm going to miss sharing in the conversations and I'm sorry see what has hap…

Post 'em if you got 'em! It's June already, so the cool cars are coming out of their cocoons and swarming the roads. Grab your net, don your safari hat and bring us back some tasty specimens!

Title says it all, but if GM should go Chapter 7 and go totally out of business, what vehicle will you buy next? Have you thought about it at all yet?

...I don't expect to be so lucky with Irene.

So, Car and driver tested both of these this week. Fusion Sport http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-ford-fusion-sport-with-summer-tires-tested-review MKZ 3.0T AWD http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2017-lincoln-mkz-30t-awd-test-review The Lincoln was basically 18k more expensive. The MKZ was roughly 200 pounds heavier, but even with that it seems the acceleration differences should be more 3 or 4 tenths of the Fusion with it's 75 less HP. The Lincoln did pull slightly higher G on the skidpad (.93 vs .89), but took an extra foot to stop from 70. Honestly, i like the MKZ some better and would pay a few grand premium ove…

Edmunds Evaluation: 2006 Minivan Comparison Test 1st: Honda Odyssey 2nd: Kia Sedona 3rd: Toyota Sienna 4th: Nissan Quest 5th: Chrysler Town & Country If there's an ever-changing segment of the automotive industry, it's the family-friendly world of minivans. In the 29 months since our last hard look at the segment, it has completely turned itself over. The Kia Sedona and Honda Odyssey have been overhauled, while the Nissan Quest and Chrysler Town & Country have been given thorough once-overs. To see which is the king of the modern mommy-mobiles, we brought the four together, along with the winner of the 2004 comparison test, the Toyota Sienna. Each of the …

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans...cs_pricing.html

Yes, that's a Sabbath reference. Here's one change I made just 15 minutes ago. HD Radio is the shit. The Hurst T-handle shift knob also improved the throw of the shifter over that pathetic leather-covered billard ball. Sorry for the low-res pic. My iPhone is only a 3GS (still better than the 4 IMHO).

Some bits: Lots more technical info at the link: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...lit/nwarm05.xml PDF of the graph analysis: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2...MFSFF4AVCBQ0IV0

In case you weren't aware, there will be a new player on the streets this summer in the on-highway and vocational truck markets: Caterpillar has decided to partner with Navistar International to offer two on-highway trucks, the CT610 and CT630 (basically rebadged Intertnational tucks) and for the vocational market (construction, garbage/refuse, mixers, logging, etc) there will be the CAT-designed CT660 class 8 truck: CT610: based on the International DuraStar: CT630: based on the International ProStar: CT660 based on the International PayStar: These were introduced at the Conexpo-Con/Agg construction industry conference in Las Vegas back in March. The tr…

sorry if there is another thread for this ....? Playing house canada's navy

...vehicle(s)? Just curious.... Statistics for my current family: 1972 Monte Carlo = almost 5 years (bought March 2002) ... driven over 7K miles since purchased 1976 Monte Carlo Landau = 8 years (bought December 1998) ... driven over 16K miles since purchased 1979 Monte Carlo Landau = just over 14 years (bought October 1992) ... driven over 35K miles since purchased 1981 Monte Carlo SC = 7 years (bought from parents December 1999) ... driven over 7K miles since purchased 1987 Monte Carlo LS = about 3.5 years (bought July 2003) ... driven over 40K miles since purchased Statistics for my former family members: 1988 Monte Carlo LS ... almost 4 years (purchased Decem…

It seems that most everyone on this forum is from up North and East. Doesn't seem to be alot of you from the midwest or western half of the states. Am I wrong in that assumption? If not, why do you think so many are from the eastern half and the northern states? Strange?

Post what your own personal automotive Holy Grail is here; include pictures and a background story if you'd like I would recommend that you post no more than one vehicle per catergory... so that would mean one holy grail car/CUV/Minivan, one holy grail truck/SUV, one holy grail motorcycle, one holy grail airplane, etc. (you get the point )

I asked your mother, she said you may post all your kick-ass car spots right here. Those were her exact words, so post away!

$2500 Needs: A/C work Valve cover gaskets Radio Rear bumper fillers 135k miles, same owner for the last 20 years. Thoughts?

If you can see some cool vehicles through the clouds of pollen, please post them here! Nice weather is (mostly) upon us!

I the spirit of the 'bands that suck' thread, I thought I would start this one. I'll post some of my selections in a little while.

For me, the answer is: absolutely I can't even fathom Palin and her family in Washington, let alone running the country if that should ever come to pass... I vote Republican about 1/2 the time, Dem the other 1/2....I was set to vote for McCain, but was waiting to see how he would round out his ticket...NOT.

Let's take a look at the now-classic GT Hawk, Studebaker's 'personal luxury' coupe : Naturally, we have to backtrack before we can backtrack. Hang on... - - - - - The GT Hawk traces it's roots to the full-classic '53 Studebaker coupe, designed under the leadership of famed industrial designer (and previous Studebaker designer) Raymond Loewy. The coupe was available in both Stude's series, the Champion and the Commander, in 3 different trim levels and was also available in a 2-dr sedan (with B-Pillar) and the Starliner 2-dr hardtop. The 2-door '53 Stude was widely acclaimed at introduction, and sold extremely well : ~ 1953 ~ 4-drs : 74,073 …

I'm bored and figured that I'd start a thread for posting pictures of random cars.

This should prove to be interesting.

As a Buick owner for 28 years and a current 2006 Buick Lucerne owner, it is with nostalgia that I say Good Bye to Buick. I am hopeful that Buick does not go the way of Oldsmobile. However, it is the forgotten stepchild of GM relegated to a small room in the attic. Tomorrow I take a last and longing look at this old friend as I step into the new world of my 2009 Toyota Camry Hybrid. I once swore never to darken the steps of the foreign auto market. But as the Buick I once knew slipped silently away into the attic room neglected I reluctantly yet with anticipation look forward to a new day in my hybrid. Farewell Old Friend!

As some of you may know, I busted my oil pan about a year ago on Tampa's infamously decrepit Kennedy Blvd. After calling a local shop who has always given me good service, I was quoted a price of $1200 to replace the oil pan because it was necessary to remove the engine and much of the transaxle to do it. First I thought they were ridiculously high, but after browsing the Aurora forums, I found that was a shockingly reasonable price given the day-and-a-half's worth of labor needed to do the job. People there have been quoted anywhere from $1000-4000 to do it. Some shops wouldn't even attempt it. I set a new record for oil pan repair today by calling the local Cadillac de…

Z's link to CoPartfinder leaves me sad. Here's a few reasons why... That one is a 1997 with 52,000 miles! What a waste... That's a Bonneville. Hard to tell. This amazes me... ...same car.

So, you've created automotive life in the other thread, lets perform some automotive abortions. Hummer H2-I hate them and the people who drive them. Tools. Pontiac Grand Prix-Its ugly, handles poorly AND has a cheap interior with almost no back seat room. Why bother? Saturn Relay-How many minivans does GM need? The Terraza is somewhat more upscale, so one of the other three has to go. Chevy is the "Full line" brand and Pontiac deserves the SV6, so the Relay goes bye-bye. Chevrolet Monte Carlo-Do people still buy these? FWD coupes are dead and if they make it RWD then there is no need for a Camaro and since you're all Camaro humpers, I s…

i hate daily driving the Nova.... its usually up to the challenge, but between poor mileage, me always breaking something, fear of damaging the car, and also the fact that im usually half assing repairs to be able to have little downtime with the car.... final straw happened yesterday. I usually dont bring my car to school, but my school bus just bever showed up, so i kinda had to drive. We arent allowed to park in the school parking lot, so most of us park in the gigantic Macy's parking lot next door. Well at around 2:30 when school let out, the rain was REALLY coming down, i wanted to get the hell home... i was going a little fast through the parking lot, like 20 mph,…

One of my 16 year old sons friends, who is 17 managed to get drunk with a girl and they wound up having sex. Now she is claiming that it wasn't consensual and is calling it date rape. Son's friend "GARY" (Not his real name) has been in our home in and out for years. Pretty good kid...I can't imagine him raping a girl. I don't really know what happened, but "Gary" is 20 days away from being 18 and is probably going to be tried as an adult. The judge he is going in front of is female and seems to by all accounts have a whole lot more symapthy for the girl than for "Gary." Being 18 and being in jail with a sex offense on your record is a lousy way to start life. Suc…

Last gen. Cadillac Deville Flower Car. It flew past me on Memorial Drive, too fast to even make a grab for the camera. It was black, natrually & has a rolled back toneau cover on the back that looked like a convertible top on a 1980s VW Cabriolet. Very nice clean conversion. Much less exciting, a brand new Rolls Royce on Rt. 495

My first accident with the Aurora occured when a Toyota 4Runner backed into me at the mall, damaging my hood and bumper guard. My second accident occured when a Ford Mustang plowed into me on the beach, crippling my car just as I drove it home as it had busted a tie rod, right fender, bumper cover, and A/C compressor. My third accident occured when a Toyota Solara ran into me as I was stopped at a pedestrian crosswalk, causing minimal damage to the rear bumper cover. My fourth accident occured when a Toyota Tundra sideswiped me as my car sat minding its own business in a parking lot at Home Depot, nearly totalling the car and necessitating repair of pretty much the ent…

Just wanted to get a grip on who all is going to be here on Saturady to see Fly off on his journey. I don't know what we are going to be doing (after wasting a few hours checking out cars and talking cars). Going to have dinner somewhere has been suggested, which might be the best idea because it is going to be very hot and humid here according to the forecast. Anyway, I wanted to warn the neighbors (I live on a shared driveway) about the cars that will be showing up, so please confirm that you are coming in this thread. Should be a good time.

Its finally winter weather time. Its about 40 and windy after a rainy day. Tomorrows high is supposed to be 39. Going out anywhere is absolutely out of the question, cold weather puts a damper on just about everything. So we're coping the best way we know how, a fire going in the fireplace, some pizza and, soon enough, a viewing of Anchorman, because it remains the best movie ever made. Is there any better way to kick off 6 months of cabin fever?

You can now install Cheers & Gears as an app on your phone and tablet. It's not in the app store; it's called a Progressive Web App, or PWA for short. The advantages are you can get notifications on your phone (don't worry, they're configurable, I'll show you further down) when someone replies to your post or sends you a message. iOS (16.4 and up) Make sure you're on the latest iOS version. iOS 16.4 was released on March 27th, 2023 and is the minimum for this process to work on Apple devices. On iOS devices, open Cheers & Gears in Safari and click the share icon at the bottom of the Safari window. Then scroll down to Add to Homescreen. …